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Helping liberals get stated with just the basics:

Re: Call the question

freedom from big liberal govt - What big liberal government are you referring to here? TMK, there wasn't a big liberal government in existence @ the time -

genius founders had studied all of human history and concluded that big central govt had been the source of evil in human history and wrote Constitution accordingly!! Do you understand now?
 
Here we have another adolescent thread created to irritate the left and mount the right on their high horse.

you would not be irritated if you could refute the arguments. Why not try? How will you learn if you are afraid to try?
 
I got that far. That sentence is Bull ****! Liberals are very "CONCERNED" by this most unprepared and unqualified pResident,

you mean the one who just made peace with N Korea while Obama didn't for 8 years?? You said same about Reagan before he saved us all from nuclear war!! See why we say liberalism is based in ignorance. Is another conclusion logically possible?
 
He's calling an investigation into Russian Meddling in our free elections a witch hunt,

2 years into it and looks more like plot by corrupt FBI DOJ far more likely to go to jail than Trump
 
have been accused or pled guilty it's not a witch hunt … it's a WHICH HUNT.
if so why is the liberal so afraid to tell us what of importance has been discovered so far except that corrupted investigators launched goofy witch hunt because the openly hated Trump!! Thats the far bigger story!!

an attempted coup from corrupt FBI Doj is far far bigger story!!
 
whoops you know there are liberals around when you start seeing pictures and cartoons. Dualing cartoons is a liberals idea of debate. See why they are violently opposed to free speech nowadays?

Oh, dear. Apparently that cartoon went over you head.

I'll use an easier one next time.
 
Re: A little bit of history

who cares how it ended. The point is after a million years they were freed. it ended virtually with the Founding of America and continues to this day with 1.4 billion Chinese being freed from communism

If slavery ended with the founding of America, why did we have to have a war about it?

Speaking of which, did you know which President was a fan of central government? Good old Lincoln. Wasn't he a Republican?
 
Re: Call the question

genius founders had studied all of human history and concluded that big central govt had been the source of evil in human history and wrote Constitution accordingly!! Do you understand now?

@ the time? That would have been British, French, Spanish, Dutch, Portuguese, maybe Russian, maybe Ottoman. There were no other big central govt that I recall.
 
Re: Call the question

I would love to see the “history” books James was raised on, since he quite obviously has zero grasp of the subject.
 
you would not be irritated if you could refute the arguments. Why not try? How will you learn if you are afraid to try?

I'm not irritated, I said you post something, on a daily basis, created to irritate the left; I didn't say you succeed. When I first joined the board, before I realized how much you hate the left I thought they were unfair and over the top. Now I realize as does everyone else here that they are just venom and hate for hates sake. I see you posted 4 to my replies, to my single post, I'm only responding to this one to let you know your sophomoric nonsense is a waste of your breath. Like the little boy (actually exactly like a little boy) that cried wolf to many times; NO ONE CARES anymore.

Does that give you a to starting point? Do you understand?

I doubt it.
 
you mean the one who just made peace with N Korea while Obama didn't for 8 years?? You said same about Reagan before he saved us all from nuclear war!! See why we say liberalism is based in ignorance. Is another conclusion logically possible?

Oh there's peace? All they've done is sign an agreement that says North Korea will work toward denuclearization but no time lines or firm treaty in place. Don't break out the party favors until there's a ratified treaty.
 
you would not be irritated if you could refute the arguments. Why not try? How will you learn if you are afraid to try?

I think we still haven't addressed your revisionist history about the end of slavery and the independence of this country; did you give up on that?
 
Liberals have been made nuts by Trump and cant think straight. They need to start over with the basics: Our Founders were right wingers ie they believed in very limited govt or freedom from big liberal govt and thus they produced greatest country in human history by far. Left wingers are socialists, ie opposed to freedom from big central govt. Thus, they spied for Stalin, elected Obama Sanders Warren and now Alexandria Cortez, right out of Bolshevik central casting, even after socialism slowly killed 120 million virtually in a our life times. Now you have a starting point. Do you understand it?
I think you need to look at Russia today and ask yourself seriously which party is taking us more in that direction. And I'm not even talking about collusion. I'm talking about denigration of the critical press, limitations on the right to vote, scapegoating of minorities, requirements of vows of loyalty, and a general strongman persona.

When big government is democratic and limited by constitutional principles like due process, equal protection, and freedom of religion, there is nothing wrong with it. There is no reason why the majority cannot elect to take on big tasks together for good reason, and in ways tailored to avoid unnecessarily infringing individual liberty.

When "small" government enables powerful private interests to abuse their economic or social power and control or endanger others, or to preserve their own status and put obstacles in the social advancement of others, there is a lot wrong with it.

As for the founders, they were divided from the beginning on these questions between federalists and anti-federalists. It's always funny, though, to hear members of the conservative "base" talk about the founders. The founders were probably the most liberal and elitist group of leaders (for their time) that America has ever had.
 
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Liberals have been made nuts by Trump and cant think straight. They need to start over with the basics: Our Founders were right wingers ie they believed in very limited govt or freedom from big liberal govt and thus they produced greatest country in human history by far. Left wingers are socialists, ie opposed to freedom from big central govt. Thus, they spied for Stalin, elected Obama Sanders Warren and now Alexandria Cortez, right out of Bolshevik central casting, even after socialism slowly killed 120 million virtually in a our life times. Now you have a starting point. Do you understand it?

Right wingers have not shown themselves to have a clear head for what the Founding Fathers did and didn't want. Textbook example: the belief that the founders wanted the Electoral College to prevent concentrated population centers from determining the next President, and then being unable to cite a single source that supports that belief.

Otherwise, excellent post if crazy is what you were going for.
 
4 million in literal chains.

That was then. This is now. We have advanced considerably, particularly Republicans.
YOUR PARTY was formed to KEEP 4 million in literal chains.
OUR PARTY was formed to FREE 4 million in literal chains.

TODAY, YOUR PARTY continues to promote abortion of unborn black babies at a much higher proportion than they represent in the population of the U.S.
YOUR PARTY continues to call for quotas and divide Americans by race, instead of give blacks dignity, and acknowledge that they CAN stand on their own two feet, without your condescending benevolence and welfare scams which keep black fathers from marrying the mothers of their children.
 
1. The GOP is the party of Lincoln!
2. The South will rise again!

These thoughts occupy Republicans' minds simultaneously.
 
so?? we had slavery for 50,000 years. It ended in America as soon as America was founded which makes America great, very very great!! Do you understand?

There it is, ladies and gentlemen...our current public education system at it's absolute finest!
 
There it is, ladies and gentlemen...our current public education system at it's absolute finest!

If the liberal disagrees why is he so afraid to explain himself. Have you ever seen a conservative afraid of debate?
 
If you have evidence of that why are you so afraid to present it?
 
1. The GOP is the party of Lincoln!
2. The South will rise again!

These thoughts occupy Republicans' minds simultaneously.
If you have evidence of that why are you so afraid to present it
 
If the liberal disagrees why is he so afraid to explain himself. Have you ever seen a conservative afraid of debate?

For people with even an elementary knowledge of American history, no explanation is needed as to what's wrong with "[Slavery] ended in America as soon as America was founded."

"Debate" is not possible with someone so deficient in the basic grounding of these subjects.
 
For people with even an elementary knowledge of American history, no explanation is needed as to what's wrong with "[Slavery] ended in America as soon as America was founded."

"Debate" is not possible with someone so deficient in the basic grounding of these subjects.

Yeah, my "home schooled!" alarm went off when I saw that.
 
Yeah, my "home schooled!" alarm went off when I saw that.

Can the liberal say why he disagrees or or is he just pretending? See why we say liberalism is based in ignorance? Is any other conclusion possible?
 
For people with even an elementary knowledge of American history, no explanation is needed as to what's wrong with "[Slavery] ended in America as soon as America was founded."

"Debate" is not possible with someone so deficient in the basic grounding of these subjects.

deficient? Why is the liberal so afraid to say why its deficient? What do you learn about liberalism from your fear?
 
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