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Helping liberals get stated with just the basics:

I'm trying to follow the revisionist history angle here but he's making it hard. The one plausible one is James972 thinks the real US was founded in 1865 because that's when it was reunited. Obviously there are all sorts of problems with that, but it's the only one that makes sense other than a complete lack of knowledge.

Oh by the way, you do know Thanos and the Cul Obsidian won WW2 and not the allies right?

After 50,000 years slavery ended when America began!. Do you understand? Hard to give up your liberal hated for America isn't it?
 
slavery ended virtually when America was founded! And??????????

No it was not 'virtually when America was founded.' A whole generation was born and died in between the American Revolution and the Civil War. The Constitution even recognized slavery's legitimacy, but keep sticking your foot in your mouth, it is exceptionally entertaining.
 
After 50,000 years slavery ended when America began!

Half the country fought a war to keep it. Other industrializing countries banned it before the US and most did it peacefully.

Your time-frame argument is the equivalent of saying, "The USA dropped the A-bomb on Japan immediately after the German signed the Treaty of Versailles!" Wait, what about everything that happened between the end of WWI and all of WWII? "Doesn't matter! Don't you realize the Earth is 4.5 billion years old!?! NOW YOU UNDERSTAND?!"
 
so?? we had slavery for 50,000 years. It ended in America as soon as America was founded which makes America great, very very great!! Do you understand?

No. It is still practiced in many areas of the Middle East and other Asian countries, a few others.
 
After 50,000 years slavery ended when America began!. Do you understand? Hard to give up your liberal hated for America isn't it?

"Liberal hatred for America"?
:lamo

Not at all, just pointing out your historical inaccuracy. Much of Europe abolished slavery before the United States; that has nothing to do with my feeling about the US or Europe, it's just history. Capisci?
 
so?? we had slavery for 50,000 years. It ended in America as soon as America was founded which makes America great, very very great!! Do you understand?

It didn't end until 1865 and that's actually the earliest date you could put on the end of slavery.
 
so?? we had slavery for 50,000 years. It ended in America as soon as America was founded which makes America great, very very great!! Do you understand?

Check your history... better yet, visit the Lincoln Memorial and Civil War battlefields.
 
Here we have another adolescent thread created to irritate the left and mount the right on their high horse.

Liberals have been made nuts by Trump and cant think straight.

I got that far. That sentence is Bull ****! Liberals are very "CONCERNED" by this most unprepared and unqualified pResident, that lies daily, insults our allies, praises dictators and even thinks we should "give dictatorship a shot", undermines the free press and our fundamental government organizations. He's calling an investigation into Russian Meddling in our free elections a witch hunt, when he should be helping the special council get to the truth any way he can … as he swore to do when he swore to uphold our Constitution. With all the people from his campaign organization and even his misadministration that have been accused or pled guilty it's not a witch hunt … it's a WHICH HUNT.

We are concerned and we are thinking straight. After yesterdays theatrics in congress where the only one that possessed any dignity was Assistant AG Rosenstein it's clear that congress cannot be depended on to be unbiased in defending our Constitution against foreign involvement either.

Your daily sophomoric threads are quite old. Now you have a starting point. Do you understand it?
 
I'm trying to follow the revisionist history angle here but he's making it hard. The one plausible one is James972 thinks the real US was founded in 1865 because that's when it was reunited. Obviously there are all sorts of problems with that, but it's the only one that makes sense other than a complete lack of knowledge.

Oh by the way, you do know Thanos and the Cul Obsidian won WW2 and not the allies right?

If the US didn't start until 1865, then obviously we're it talking about Washington or Jefferson because they were both dead by then. But what they started couldn't be America because they both owned slaves and slavery ended with our founding.
 
Liberals have been made nuts by Trump and cant think straight. They need to start over with the basics: Our Founders were right wingers ie they believed in very limited govt or freedom from big liberal govt and thus they produced greatest country in human history by far. Left wingers are socialists, ie opposed to freedom from big central govt. Thus, they spied for Stalin, elected Obama Sanders Warren and now Alexandria Cortez, right out of Bolshevik central casting, even after socialism slowly killed 120 million virtually in a our life times. Now you have a starting point. Do you understand it?

Actually, no. This aint the 50s anymore, Toto, er, Senator McCarthy. But its great to hear such unadulterated right wing paranoia. Takes me back, Adolf.
 
Call the question

Liberals have been made nuts by Trump and cant think straight. They need to start over with the basics: Our Founders were right wingers ie they believed in very limited govt or freedom from big liberal govt and thus they produced greatest country in human history by far. Left wingers are socialists, ie opposed to freedom from big central govt. Thus, they spied for Stalin, elected Obama Sanders Warren and now Alexandria Cortez, right out of Bolshevik central casting, even after socialism slowly killed 120 million virtually in a our life times. Now you have a starting point. Do you understand it?

Nah. Our Founders were right wingers - No, the FF were socially conservative. In writing the Constitution, they corrected the weak central government problems from the Confederation of States - which was necessary. Otherwise, the finances were a mess, they couldn't deal with the outstanding debts, nor raise a military for self-defense. The needed federal courts, taxing authority, flesh out the Constitution into an actual working government.

freedom from big liberal govt - What big liberal government are you referring to here? TMK, there wasn't a big liberal government in existence @ the time - 1793 CE or so, after the end of the US Revolutionary War.

Left wingers are socialists - Did Left wingers even exist @ the time? As I recall, the Left/Right wing names come from the French Revolution - which was after 1793, although fairly close. So calling the FF Leftists is a reach. Similarly Socialism, which didn't formally start until Marx & Engels in the late 19th century.
 
If the US didn't start until 1865, then obviously we're it talking about Washington or Jefferson because they were both dead by then. But what they started couldn't be America because they both owned slaves and slavery ended with our founding.

Oh of course; we can make a whole Dr Who episode out of it.
 
A little bit of history

so?? we had slavery for 50,000 years. It ended in America as soon as America was founded which makes America great, very very great!! Do you understand?

Who is the we here?

Slavery in the US (America?) didn't end with the planting of the British colonies in what became the US. This is basic history - British colonists tried to make slaves of the Native Peoples, who either died or ran away. They also brought in indentured servants - which had its own problems. For the heavy-duty labor in cotton & tobacco fields, British colonists imported Black slaves from Africa, & possibly from the slave trade in the Caribbean. The British & Spanish & Portuguese (?) wound up ending most of the transatlantic slave trade in the 1840s (?), but by then the US had seceded, & in the US it took the Civil War to end slavery as a formal system.
 
Re: Call the question

Nah. Our Founders were right wingers - No, the FF were socially conservative. In writing the Constitution, they corrected the weak central government problems from the Confederation of States - which was necessary. Otherwise, the finances were a mess, they couldn't deal with the outstanding debts, nor raise a military for self-defense. The needed federal courts, taxing authority, flesh out the Constitution into an actual working government.

freedom from big liberal govt - What big liberal government are you referring to here? TMK, there wasn't a big liberal government in existence @ the time - 1793 CE or so, after the end of the US Revolutionary War.

Left wingers are socialists - Did Left wingers even exist @ the time? As I recall, the Left/Right wing names come from the French Revolution - which was after 1793, although fairly close. So calling the FF Leftists is a reach. Similarly Socialism, which didn't formally start until Marx & Engels in the late 19th century.

King George III was a liberal, of course. And like all liberals, was insane.
 
Here we have another adolescent thread created to irritate the left and mount the right on their high horse.

I'd be utterly embarrassed if the OP was speaking on behalf of my ideology.
 
And another troll thread gets all the attention it wanted.
 
And another troll thread gets all the attention it wanted.

troll thread is one to which a liberal cant respond logically!
See why liberals violently oppose free speech nowadays!!
 
Not that it matters...

They would've called themselves left winger (if either) as the left wing were in favor of democratic reforms and the right wing were in favor of the aristocracy.

They also would've considered themselves liberal

Ignore that historical business and carry on with your diatribe.

What you think they would have called themselves does not matter. What matters is that you understand that our genius founders were for very limited govt as are modern conservatives and as modern liberals are not. Modern liberals oppose concept of America and generally support socialists like Sanders
 
Re: Call the question

King George III was a liberal, of course. And like all liberals, was insane.

King George was for a big central govt and our Founders were opposed to big central governments so made them illegal here. Now our liberals are trying to reverse the very concept of America. This is why they support Sanders and other anti American socialists
 
Re: A little bit of history

it took the Civil War to end slavery as a formal system.

who cares how it ended. The point is after a million years they were freed. it ended virtually with the Founding of America and continues to this day with 1.4 billion Chinese being freed from communism
 
Re: Call the question

In writing the Constitution, they corrected the weak central government problems from the Confederation of States - which was necessary.

actually they went from a tiny tiny tiny central govt to a tiny tiny central govt about 1% the size of todays on a per capita inflation adjusted basis. Now you have your history straight.
 
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