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Is Trump Repaying Putin

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https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/08/trump-is-helping-putin-with-a-key-goal-when-he-spurns-us-allies.html


"Vladimir Putin tried to help Donald Trump win the presidency. As president, Trump is helping Putin achieve a top strategic goal.

And the question is: Why?

That mystery deepened Friday when Trump, as he openly attacked U.S. allies while heading for meetings with them, called for Russia to be readmitted to the G-7 club of advanced industrial democracies. The U.S. and its allies ejected Russia after its 2014 seizure of Crimea.

With that concession, Trump capped a whirl of activity advancing Russia's objective of splintering the alliances undergirding the Western world's security and prosperity for the past 70 years. French President Emmanuel Macron, incensed by the trade conflicts Trump instigated, declared that G-7 partners gathered in Canada this weekend might cut out the U.S. for purposes of the summit communique.

This followed the president's earlier reluctance to embrace North Atlantic Treaty Organization commitments safeguarding Europe against Russia, his delay in implementing new congressional sanctions against Russia and his praise of Putin himself. Those actions, according to U.S. intelligence and law enforcement officials, followed criminal interference by Russian operatives to help Trump defeat Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election.

The starkness of Trump's words — he stated no conditions for returning Russia to international favor on the same morning he impugned Canada's honesty — unsettled observers across the political spectrum.

Republican Sen. Jeff Flake of Arizona flatly rejected Trump's idea, which Republican Gov. John Kasich of Ohio said "does not protect or defend the national security interests of the United States or our allies." Others cast Trump's unusual battles with historic friends while reaching out to an existential historic enemy as part of a corrupt bargain that put him in the White House in the first place.

"This transatlantic rift is a gift to Russia that amply repays Vladimir Putin's investment in helping the Trump campaign," wrote the conservative foreign policy expert Max Boot."

This kind of action certainly is not that of one who seeks world peace as Trump claims.
 
Think of it like this: if Trump was under the thrall of Putin and he was being forced to do things in the service of the Russian because he had something him, would it be any different that what he just did with the G7 in Canada?
 
haymarket said:
Think of it like this: if Trump was under the thrall of Putin and he was being forced to do things in the service of the Russian because he had something him, would it be any different that what he just did with the G7 in Canada?
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This is how the screenplay would unfold......
 
Old Trapper said:
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/08/trump-is-helping-putin-with-a-key-goal-when-he-spurns-us-allies.html


"Vladimir Putin tried to help Donald Trump win the presidency. As president, Trump is helping Putin achieve a top strategic goal.

And the question is: Why?

That mystery deepened Friday when Trump, as he openly attacked U.S. allies while heading for meetings with them, called for Russia to be readmitted to the G-7 club of advanced industrial democracies. The U.S. and its allies ejected Russia after its 2014 seizure of Crimea.

With that concession, Trump capped a whirl of activity advancing Russia's objective of splintering the alliances undergirding the Western world's security and prosperity for the past 70 years. French President Emmanuel Macron, incensed by the trade conflicts Trump instigated, declared that G-7 partners gathered in Canada this weekend might cut out the U.S. for purposes of the summit communique.

This followed the president's earlier reluctance to embrace North Atlantic Treaty Organization commitments safeguarding Europe against Russia, his delay in implementing new congressional sanctions against Russia and his praise of Putin himself. Those actions, according to U.S. intelligence and law enforcement officials, followed criminal interference by Russian operatives to help Trump defeat Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election.

The starkness of Trump's words — he stated no conditions for returning Russia to international favor on the same morning he impugned Canada's honesty — unsettled observers across the political spectrum.

Republican Sen. Jeff Flake of Arizona flatly rejected Trump's idea, which Republican Gov. John Kasich of Ohio said "does not protect or defend the national security interests of the United States or our allies." Others cast Trump's unusual battles with historic friends while reaching out to an existential historic enemy as part of a corrupt bargain that put him in the White House in the first place.

"This transatlantic rift is a gift to Russia that amply repays Vladimir Putin's investment in helping the Trump campaign," wrote the conservative foreign policy expert Max Boot."

This kind of action certainly is not that of one who seeks world peace as Trump claims.
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I suspect the reason is that he is indebted to the Russians.

He won't release his tax returns, so it can't be proven, but I'd be willing to bet that he has received large loans from foreign banks (which would be listed on a supporting schedule within his tax return). I would also be willing to bet, a substantial portion of those loans are from Russian institutions.

Is that illegal. No probably not.

Nonetheless, a reasonable person might wonder where Trump's loyalties are, given the potential substantial nature of those loans.

And of course, there is the matter of the hotel in Russia he wants to build. More reason for him to cozy up to Russia.
 
beancounter said:
I suspect the reason is that he is indebted to the Russians.

He won't release his tax returns, so it can't be proven, but I'd be willing to bet that he has received large loans from foreign banks (which would be listed on a supporting schedule within his tax return). I would also be willing to bet, a substantial portion of those loans are from Russian institutions.

Is that illegal. No probably not.

Nonetheless, a reasonable person might wonder where Trump's loyalties are, given the potential substantial nature of those loans.

And of course, there is the matter of the hotel in Russia he wants to build. More reason for him to cozy up to Russia.
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It's absolutely amazing that there are people out there that cried for Obama's college transcripts yet could care less about Trumps current tax returns. One is so insanely more important information in electing the head of a country that I can't imagine how they convince themselves that decades old college transcripts are somehow more important and vastly more useful in figuring out a person than current day tax returns.
 
haymarket said:
Think of it like this: if Trump was under the thrall of Putin and he was being forced to do things in the service of the Russian because he had something him, would it be any different that what he just did with the G7 in Canada?
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Hm. So you're saying splitting the western alliance, playing them against each other and advocating for Russia might somehow be a Putinesque agenda? That isolating the US on one side of the world stage might work in Russia's favour?


Nah. Trump's a solid, stable genius. He wouldn't be a patsy for Putin.
Would he?
 
Grand Mal said:
Hm. So you're saying splitting the western alliance, playing them against each other and advocating for Russia might somehow be a Putinesque agenda? That isolating the US on one side of the world stage might work in Russia's favour?


Nah. Trump's a solid, stable genius. He wouldn't be a patsy for Putin.
Would he?
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And that is not horse crap we just stepped in just giant chocolate Hershey kisses.
 
Putin picked him because he's a monumental screwup. It's pretty clear that Putin gives him an occasional nudge. It's also pretty clear he doesn't need it for Putin to get what he wants.
 
Grand Mal said:
Hm. So you're saying splitting the western alliance, playing them against each other and advocating for Russia might somehow be a Putinesque agenda? That isolating the US on one side of the world stage might work in Russia's favour?


Nah. Trump's a solid, stable genius. He wouldn't be a patsy for Putin.
Would he?
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Not to mention...

Gutting the state department
Calling into question the legitimacy and accuracy of our intelligence agencies
The list goes on.

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Clearly he is, somehow for some reason. When you take the totality of his moves into account, he's really being stupid, and it's pretty obvious to me he very much is.:roll:
 
Old Trapper said:
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/08/trump-is-helping-putin-with-a-key-goal-when-he-spurns-us-allies.html


"Vladimir Putin tried to help Donald Trump win the presidency. As president, Trump is helping Putin achieve a top strategic goal.

And the question is: Why?

That mystery deepened Friday when Trump, as he openly attacked U.S. allies while heading for meetings with them, called for Russia to be readmitted to the G-7 club of advanced industrial democracies. The U.S. and its allies ejected Russia after its 2014 seizure of Crimea.

With that concession, Trump capped a whirl of activity advancing Russia's objective of splintering the alliances undergirding the Western world's security and prosperity for the past 70 years. French President Emmanuel Macron, incensed by the trade conflicts Trump instigated, declared that G-7 partners gathered in Canada this weekend might cut out the U.S. for purposes of the summit communique.

This followed the president's earlier reluctance to embrace North Atlantic Treaty Organization commitments safeguarding Europe against Russia, his delay in implementing new congressional sanctions against Russia and his praise of Putin himself. Those actions, according to U.S. intelligence and law enforcement officials, followed criminal interference by Russian operatives to help Trump defeat Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election.

The starkness of Trump's words — he stated no conditions for returning Russia to international favor on the same morning he impugned Canada's honesty — unsettled observers across the political spectrum.

Republican Sen. Jeff Flake of Arizona flatly rejected Trump's idea, which Republican Gov. John Kasich of Ohio said "does not protect or defend the national security interests of the United States or our allies." Others cast Trump's unusual battles with historic friends while reaching out to an existential historic enemy as part of a corrupt bargain that put him in the White House in the first place.

"This transatlantic rift is a gift to Russia that amply repays Vladimir Putin's investment in helping the Trump campaign," wrote the conservative foreign policy expert Max Boot."

This kind of action certainly is not that of one who seeks world peace as Trump claims.
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No, Trump is working for Putin: he has something on Trump.
 
Putin pulls the strings, and Trump dances.
 
Old Trapper said:
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/08/trump-is-helping-putin-with-a-key-goal-when-he-spurns-us-allies.html


"Vladimir Putin tried to help Donald Trump win the presidency. As president, Trump is helping Putin achieve a top strategic goal.

And the question is: Why?

That mystery deepened Friday when Trump, as he openly attacked U.S. allies while heading for meetings with them, called for Russia to be readmitted to the G-7 club of advanced industrial democracies. The U.S. and its allies ejected Russia after its 2014 seizure of Crimea.

With that concession, Trump capped a whirl of activity advancing Russia's objective of splintering the alliances undergirding the Western world's security and prosperity for the past 70 years. French President Emmanuel Macron, incensed by the trade conflicts Trump instigated, declared that G-7 partners gathered in Canada this weekend might cut out the U.S. for purposes of the summit communique.

This followed the president's earlier reluctance to embrace North Atlantic Treaty Organization commitments safeguarding Europe against Russia, his delay in implementing new congressional sanctions against Russia and his praise of Putin himself. Those actions, according to U.S. intelligence and law enforcement officials, followed criminal interference by Russian operatives to help Trump defeat Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election.

The starkness of Trump's words — he stated no conditions for returning Russia to international favor on the same morning he impugned Canada's honesty — unsettled observers across the political spectrum.

Republican Sen. Jeff Flake of Arizona flatly rejected Trump's idea, which Republican Gov. John Kasich of Ohio said "does not protect or defend the national security interests of the United States or our allies." Others cast Trump's unusual battles with historic friends while reaching out to an existential historic enemy as part of a corrupt bargain that put him in the White House in the first place.

"This transatlantic rift is a gift to Russia that amply repays Vladimir Putin's investment in helping the Trump campaign," wrote the conservative foreign policy expert Max Boot."

This kind of action certainly is not that of one who seeks world peace as Trump claims.
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The biggest lie told over the last couple of years is that Trump colluded with Russia or that Russia interfered with the election any more than they have been doing for decades. It’s all just a cover story for a Deep State, Democrat party effort to undo the 2016 Presidential Election.

Trump as President is the worst thing that ever happened to Putin. Trump’s energy policies are destroying the Russian economy. Under Trump US military has killed Russian military (I believe for the first time ever). The last US bombing in Syria and dropping the Iran deal was a humiliating slap in the face to Putin. If there was any Trump Russia collusion Putin would have all the proof needed and we would be looking at it by now.
 
Old Trapper said:
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/08/trump-is-helping-putin-with-a-key-goal-when-he-spurns-us-allies.html


"Vladimir Putin tried to help Donald Trump win the presidency. As president, Trump is helping Putin achieve a top strategic goal.

And the question is: Why?

That mystery deepened Friday when Trump, as he openly attacked U.S. allies while heading for meetings with them, called for Russia to be readmitted to the G-7 club of advanced industrial democracies. The U.S. and its allies ejected Russia after its 2014 seizure of Crimea.

With that concession, Trump capped a whirl of activity advancing Russia's objective of splintering the alliances undergirding the Western world's security and prosperity for the past 70 years. French President Emmanuel Macron, incensed by the trade conflicts Trump instigated, declared that G-7 partners gathered in Canada this weekend might cut out the U.S. for purposes of the summit communique.

This followed the president's earlier reluctance to embrace North Atlantic Treaty Organization commitments safeguarding Europe against Russia, his delay in implementing new congressional sanctions against Russia and his praise of Putin himself. Those actions, according to U.S. intelligence and law enforcement officials, followed criminal interference by Russian operatives to help Trump defeat Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election.

The starkness of Trump's words — he stated no conditions for returning Russia to international favor on the same morning he impugned Canada's honesty — unsettled observers across the political spectrum.

Republican Sen. Jeff Flake of Arizona flatly rejected Trump's idea, which Republican Gov. John Kasich of Ohio said "does not protect or defend the national security interests of the United States or our allies." Others cast Trump's unusual battles with historic friends while reaching out to an existential historic enemy as part of a corrupt bargain that put him in the White House in the first place.

"This transatlantic rift is a gift to Russia that amply repays Vladimir Putin's investment in helping the Trump campaign," wrote the conservative foreign policy expert Max Boot."

This kind of action certainly is not that of one who seeks world peace as Trump claims.
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Three words: "Pee Pee Tape".
 
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