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DNC Adopts Rule Forcing Presidential Candidates to Be Members of Democratic Party

Risky Thicket

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Just 5 months from mid-term elections the still exceedingly partisan DNC, not learning from its monumental mistakes in the campaign for the 2016 election, decided to shoot itself in the foot again. Again it seems the DNC ignores recent past experience, ignores the data that indicates that if it had supported Sanders instead of conspiring to marginalize him Bernie would have beaten Trump resoundingly.

Nooooo, the DNC doesn't want those votes. Nooooo, they are convinced they are on the path to greatness. Yo mama! My money says the DNC remains as clueless as ever, maybe more so. What path? Where? All I see is a circle. OK, and maybe a circle jerk.

This brilliant feckin move should just inspire the hell out of confused voters many of those who supported Sanders, Independents who voted for Sanders, minorites who saw little real hope in the DNC in 2016 and young voters who have seen and experienced a bucketful of ugly in the last 500 plus days. :roll:


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[FONT=&quot]That was how the advocacy group People for Bernie reacted to reports late Friday that the rules and bylaws arm of the Democratic National Committee has moved ahead with a new resolution that, according to Yahoo News, would "force candidates in Democratic presidential primaries to state that they are Democrats" and "to 'run and serve' as a member" of the party.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]While allies of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.)—who ran as a Democrat in the 2016 presidential primary while still identifying as an independent—said they don't expect the new rules to hinder Sanders' chances of running for the Democratic nomination in 2020 if he chooses to do so, many supporters of the Vermont senator characterized the rule change as a completely unnecessary "slap in the face" to progressive outsiders.
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Risky Thicket said:
Just 5 months from mid-term elections the still exceedingly partisan DNC, not learning from its monumental mistakes in the campaign for the 2016 election, decided to shoot itself in the foot again. Again it seems the DNC ignores recent past experience, ignores the data that indicates that if it had supported Sanders instead of conspiring to marginalize him Bernie would have beaten Trump resoundingly.

Nooooo, the DNC doesn't want those votes. Nooooo, they are convinced they are on the path to greatness. Yo mama! My money says the DNC remains as clueless as ever, maybe more so. What path? Where? All I see is a circle. OK, and maybe a circle jerk.

This brilliant feckin move should just inspire the hell out of confused voters many of those who supported Sanders, Independents who voted for Sanders, minorites who saw little real hope in the DNC in 2016 and young voters who have seen and experienced a bucketful of ugly in the last 500 plus days. :roll:


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Holy ****, what a novel idea! If you want to use the resources and name of the democratic party, you have to actually be in the democratic party. What is hilarious is that people will still play the victim over this...
 
Risky Thicket said:
Just 5 months from mid-term elections the still exceedingly partisan DNC, not learning from its monumental mistakes in the campaign for the 2016 election, decided to shoot itself in the foot again. Again it seems the DNC ignores recent past experience, ignores the data that indicates that if it had supported Sanders instead of conspiring to marginalize him Bernie would have beaten Trump resoundingly.

Nooooo, the DNC doesn't want those votes. Nooooo, they are convinced they are on the path to greatness. Yo mama! My money says the DNC remains as clueless as ever, maybe more so. What path? Where? All I see is a circle. OK, and maybe a circle jerk.

This brilliant feckin move should just inspire the hell out of confused voters many of those who supported Sanders, Independents who voted for Sanders, minorites who saw little real hope in the DNC in 2016 and young voters who have seen and experienced a bucketful of ugly in the last 500 plus days. :roll:


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If one is going to run for President as a candidate on the democratic parties presidential ticket, shouldn’t the nominee belong to the party he is seeking the nomination of?
 
Redress said:
Holy ****, what a novel idea! If you want to use the resources and name of the democratic party, you have to actually be in the democratic party. What is hilarious is that people will still play the victim over this...
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I'm not a Democrat for a number of reasons. Stick with the old guard and don't count on my vote.
 
On one hand political parties are private organizations that can make up their rules. On the other hand, the two parties have such a lock on things that if you don’t belong to one of them you stand virtually no chance of winning office. So these private organizations in practice get to decide who we the people have to chose from. It is a ****ed up situation.

As for this particular move, left leaning independents should just lie. Say you are a Democrat for administrative purposes and then push policies you actually believe in.
 
Risky Thicket said:
I'm not a Democrat for a number of reasons. Stick with the old guard and don't count on my vote.
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The rule says nothing about old guard vs new guard. It says if you want to use the resources of the democratic party, you have to say you are a democrat. For all the crying Sanders supporters do, if not for the support of the DNC, he would still be some guy almost no one has heard of. Now, it is not surprising that democrats are a little unhappy with Sanders, who only comes calling when he wants something from them to prop up his quest for power.
 
Risky Thicket said:
I'm not a Democrat for a number of reasons. Stick with the old guard and don't count on my vote.
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Well ya ain't gonna vote Republican. And if you are running for that Party's nomination, then one should be a member.
Off topic but.
I have stated this since early last year, the Democrats best have a platform for the November elections as running on I am against Trump-for impeachment will turn people away. Have people who know their CD such as Conor Lamb. If the candidate is a centrist and against Pelosi, so be it. Win the CD

That jungle primary in California, the Dems came close to blowing it. Approx 6 or 7 CD's can - could be flipped to Democratic.
That is 1/4 of the way to taking the house
 
Redress said:
The rule says nothing about old guard vs new guard. It says if you want to use the resources of the democratic party, you have to say you are a democrat. For all the crying Sanders supporters do, if not for the support of the DNC, he would still be some guy almost no one has heard of. Now, it is not surprising that democrats are a little unhappy with Sanders, who only comes calling when he wants something from them to prop up his quest for power.
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It's actually quite scary that a large number of people supported a Presidential candidate married in the Soviet Union and is an avowed Socialist. The USA has the potential of electing a Hugo Chavez with the same result. We are indeed becoming a post-freedom society that would give up freedom in exchange for punishing those that offend them.
 
Risky Thicket said:
I'm not a Democrat for a number of reasons. Stick with the old guard and don't count on my vote.
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Plenty of new people have no problems registering as Democrat...Ever heard of this thing called the Blue Wave?
 
I think the rule makes sense.You should actually be a democrat in order to be able to run as a democrat.
 
Skeptic Bob said:
On one hand political parties are private organizations that can make up their rules. On the other hand, the two parties have such a lock on things that if you don’t belong to one of them you stand virtually no chance of winning office. So these private organizations in practice get to decide who we the people have to chose from. It is a ****ed up situation.

As for this particular move, left leaning independents should just lie. Say you are a Democrat for administrative purposes and then push policies you actually believe in.
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All the other parties run people like Gary Johnson, or Jill Stein, or worse. The other parties are fringe nutjob parties like The Green Party, The Communist Party. Those platforms will never sell. The Democrats and the Republicans are the only ones that aren't out in La-La Land.
 
Risky Thicket said:
Just 5 months from mid-term elections the still exceedingly partisan DNC
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Why wouldn't a political party be partisan? For that matter, why should the Democratic Party field a presidential candidate who isn't a Democrat?
 
Greenbeard said:
Why wouldn't a political party be partisan? For that matter, why should the Democratic Party field a presidential candidate who isn't a Democrat?
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The DNC inter-partisanship will likely bring the party to its knees - unlike the Philadelphia Eagles, ahem.

I am not a Democrat. In fact I think both the GOP and Democratic Parties suck like a bucket of ticks. It's passed time to end their stranglehold on American politics. But the voters have the power, though they rarely use it. That's another topic.

If anything it is my opinion that the DNC should open its arms and doors to new ideas and new people. The DNC's powers that be don't want that. They have limited imagination and have decided that they will ram the old ways down the throats of party members.

Americans, be they Trump fans or Bernie supporters or Independents want real change. That was evident in 2016.

The GOP has now become the Trump Party. I believe that Trump will damn near destroy the GOP. The Democratic Party seems to want to become more insular than it has been. That is the choice of the party leaders. I believe it will prove to be a mistake. Sanders was a major threat to the DNC's old school leadership. Sanders brought fresh ideas and a fresh style to the DNC and it resonated with people. The DNC's decision is to my thinking a return to stodginess.
 
Risky Thicket said:
If anything it is my opinion that the DNC should open its arms and doors to new ideas and new people. The DNC's powers that be don't want that. They have limited imagination and have decided that they will ram the old ways down the throats of party members.
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The doors are open. There is no barrier to joining the Democratic Party. But that's not what you're asking. You want people who refuse to walk through those open doors to dictate the direction of the party. Doesn't work like that.
 
SDET said:
It's actually quite scary that a large number of people supported a Presidential candidate married in the Soviet Union and is an avowed Socialist. The USA has the potential of electing a Hugo Chavez with the same result. We are indeed becoming a post-freedom society that would give up freedom in exchange for punishing those that offend them.
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Wrong

George Will describes Bernie Sanders' Soviet Union honeymoon | PunditFact

In a 2007 interview, Jane Sanders also recalled the peculiar timing: "The day after we got married, we marched in a Memorial Day parade, and then we took off in a plane to start the sister city project with Yaroslavl with 10 other people on my honeymoon."

Bernie Sanders also refers to the trip sarcastically as "quiet and romantic" in his book.

The "honeymoon" was dotted with meetings, interviews and diplomatic functions. A June 2015 profile in The Guardian described the former mayor’s meeting with Yaroslavl city officials:
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Greenbeard said:
The doors are open. There is no barrier to joining the Democratic Party. But that's not what you're asking. You want people who refuse to walk through those open doors to dictate the direction of the party. Doesn't work like that.
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In truth it isn't what I want. If I could have my way both major parties would fold and become a long painful memory by the end of the year. So far I'm not getting my way with much of anything.

The two party system will be a major cause in America's fall from greatness. Not the only cause but a major one.

Nothing is certain but change. We can be our own agents of change or we can abdicate that right and responsibility. There comes a time when, due to our inaction, some entity will fill the void and become the change agent. When that happens we have little choice. I believe we have reached that point. I am sorry to say that for the most part Americans are willing to accept status quo and allow for change to happen as it will. That's a bad choice.
 
Risky Thicket said:
In truth it isn't what I want. If I could have my way both major parties would fold and become a long painful memory by the end of the year.
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Must feel good to feel like you have that kind of luxury.

So far I'm not getting my way with much of anything.
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Good. Today's election are base races, and to get back in the game we need to shore up our base, not kick them to the curb.
 
Risky Thicket said:
Be careful. The Blue Wave may be tinted pee.
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Oh I have no illusions or visions of grandeur about the Democrats lofty goals of getting Swampy impeached and winning the next elections. I'm just saying, Bernie didn't need the DNC to "rig the election," he lost all in his own stupid ways. It amazes me that the Democrats have nobody who is more serious than Bernie Sanders running yet. Swampy has already held multiple fundraisers as did Pence (Just in case I'm sure).

I would just be very happy if Mueller does do something by the end of the month. If not, all bets are off for the Democrats.
 
So basically, it doesn't matter what candidate it is, just as long as they are a puppet of the party then, right?

No wonder so many people voted for Trump.
 
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