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Surging Mortgage Rates Set Off Scramble to Buy Homes

Vern

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U.S. homebuyers, already contending with escalating prices, now are getting hit with the most-expensive mortgage rates in seven years. Funny thing: It’s only making them move faster…..

Home prices jumped 7.6 percent in April from a year earlier to a median of $302,200, and sellers got a record 98.8 percent of what they asked on average, Redfin said Thursday.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/surging-mortgage-rates-set-off-140000677.html

Uh oh, home prices are going up faster than inflation, interest rates going up, derivatives are still unregulated, Glass Steagall is still repealed, Freddie and Fannie still exist as does the CRA. And we have a republican president and congress. The last time we had these conditions, we got a mortgage bubble that destroyed the economy. So what’s to prevent another mortgage bubble? Based on what people tell me caused the Bush Mortgage Bubble, the answer is nothing.

I guess its time to start stocking up on gold and survival seeds again.
 
U.S. homebuyers, already contending with escalating prices, now are getting hit with the most-expensive mortgage rates in seven years. Funny thing: It’s only making them move faster…..

Home prices jumped 7.6 percent in April from a year earlier to a median of $302,200, and sellers got a record 98.8 percent of what they asked on average, Redfin said Thursday.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/surging-mortgage-rates-set-off-140000677.html

Uh oh, home prices are going up faster than inflation, interest rates going up, derivatives are still unregulated, Glass Steagall is still repealed, Freddie and Fannie still exist as does the CRA. And we have a republican president and congress. The last time we had these conditions, we got a mortgage bubble that destroyed the economy. So what’s to prevent another mortgage bubble? Based on what people tell me caused the Bush Mortgage Bubble, the answer is nothing.

I guess its time to start stocking up on gold and survival seeds again.

Bush Mortgage Bubble = Not to be taken seriously.
 
Bush Mortgage Bubble = Not to be taken seriously.

why not? It happened on his watch. And it was his policies. But who cares if it was his policies, happening on his watch meets your obedient conservative standards.
 
U.S. homebuyers, already contending with escalating prices, now are getting hit with the most-expensive mortgage rates in seven years. Funny thing: It’s only making them move faster…..

Home prices jumped 7.6 percent in April from a year earlier to a median of $302,200, and sellers got a record 98.8 percent of what they asked on average, Redfin said Thursday.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/surging-mortgage-rates-set-off-140000677.html

Uh oh, home prices are going up faster than inflation, interest rates going up, derivatives are still unregulated, Glass Steagall is still repealed, Freddie and Fannie still exist as does the CRA. And we have a republican president and congress. The last time we had these conditions, we got a mortgage bubble that destroyed the economy. So what’s to prevent another mortgage bubble? Based on what people tell me caused the Bush Mortgage Bubble, the answer is nothing.

I guess its time to start stocking up on gold and survival seeds again.

Not sure it would be a housing bubble without the predatory lending and bundling of mortgages like the last housing bubble had.
 
why not? It happened on his watch. And it was his policies. But who cares if it was his policies, happening on his watch meets your obedient conservative standards.

Who was at the wheel when the crash occurred is irrelevant if the causes of the crash were laid long long before he came into office.

Your simplistic "Bush dun it" nonsense has been knocked down by both left and right leaning posters.
 
why not? It happened on his watch. And it was his policies. But who cares if it was his policies, happening on his watch meets your obedient conservative standards.

What would you recommend, Vern?
 
Not sure it would be a housing bubble without the predatory lending and bundling of mortgages like the last housing bubble had.

Mortgages are still being bundled but Bush's policy of protecting predatory lenders was ruled unconstitutional and Dodd Frank put it into law that banks have to verify that the borrower can afford the loan.

An Overview of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau's Ability-to-Repay and Qualified Mortgage Rule

https://www.americanbar.org/publications/blt/2013/04/02_shatz.html
 
What would you recommend, Vern?
I would recommend never voting republican. They do seem to run up the deficit and create a financial crisis. But as far as mortgage bubbles goes there is nothing to worry about. Bush's protection of predatory lenders was ruled unconstitutional. Also its the law that banks have to verify that the borrower can afford the loan.

Supreme Court Strikes Down Bush-Era Preemption Rule — But Decision is Too Late To Impact Subprime Mortgage Mess

..a regulation adopted by the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency (OCC) under President George W. Bush that preempted state efforts to enforce fair lending laws against branches of national banks. The regulation prevented states from enforcing their own laws against predatory lending and discriminatory credit practices – including the types of practices that directly resulted in last year’s subprime mortgage crisis — and was part of an aggressive effort by the Bush Administration to use federal preemption to trump important state laws that protect consumers, the environment, and public health and safety.

Text, History and Boumediene | Constitutional Accountability Center
 
Who was at the wheel when the crash occurred is irrelevant if the causes of the crash were laid long long before he came into office.

Your simplistic "Bush dun it" nonsense has been knocked down by both left and right leaning posters.

I'm sure your fellow conservatives (and conservative like posters) appreciate your obedient "nuh uh's" but I have to ask, what was " laid long long before [Bush] came into office" that caused a "dramatic weakening of underwriting standards for U.S. subprime mortgages, beginning in late 2004".


“The Presidents Working Group’s March policy statement acknowledged that turmoil in financial markets clearly was triggered by a dramatic weakening of underwriting standards for U.S. subprime mortgages, beginning in late 2004 and extending into 2007.”

http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/fin-mkts/Documents/q4progress update.pdf

I think this is the part where flail, deflect and whine.
 
U.S. homebuyers, already contending with escalating prices, now are getting hit with the most-expensive mortgage rates in seven years. Funny thing: It’s only making them move faster…..

Home prices jumped 7.6 percent in April from a year earlier to a median of $302,200, and sellers got a record 98.8 percent of what they asked on average, Redfin said Thursday.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/surging-mortgage-rates-set-off-140000677.html

Uh oh, home prices are going up faster than inflation, interest rates going up, derivatives are still unregulated, Glass Steagall is still repealed, Freddie and Fannie still exist as does the CRA. And we have a republican president and congress. The last time we had these conditions, we got a mortgage bubble that destroyed the economy. So what’s to prevent another mortgage bubble? Based on what people tell me caused the Bush Mortgage Bubble, the answer is nothing.

I guess its time to start stocking up on gold and survival seeds again.
Lending practices, including government backing, are not as crazy loose as they were back then.

There may be a bubble building, but it's not of the same nature as the last one. Remember NINJA loans? My God!

As for the correlation between rates and demand, the spike in demand that occurs as rates start to rise after a sustained period of low rates, is common. What you're seeing is the buyers that were sitting on the sidelines, or only mildly motivated, now becoming highly motivated and panicked at the thought of rising rates shutting them out of the market. It's not uncommon, and usually works its way out after a period of time.
 
I would recommend never voting republican. They do seem to run up the deficit and create a financial crisis. But as far as mortgage bubbles goes there is nothing to worry about. Bush's protection of predatory lenders was ruled unconstitutional. Also its the law that banks have to verify that the borrower can afford the loan.

Supreme Court Strikes Down Bush-Era Preemption Rule — But Decision is Too Late To Impact Subprime Mortgage Mess

..a regulation adopted by the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency (OCC) under President George W. Bush that preempted state efforts to enforce fair lending laws against branches of national banks. The regulation prevented states from enforcing their own laws against predatory lending and discriminatory credit practices – including the types of practices that directly resulted in last year’s subprime mortgage crisis — and was part of an aggressive effort by the Bush Administration to use federal preemption to trump important state laws that protect consumers, the environment, and public health and safety.

Text, History and Boumediene | Constitutional Accountability Center

Your link goes to the war on terror and habeas corpus.
 
GOP loves to overheat the economy & then CRASH ..........

same movie = same ending, coming to a neighborhood near you, soon
 
I'm sure your fellow conservatives (and conservative like posters) appreciate your obedient "nuh uh's" but I have to ask, what was " laid long long before [Bush] came into office" that caused a "dramatic weakening of underwriting standards for U.S. subprime mortgages, beginning in late 2004".


“The Presidents Working Group’s March policy statement acknowledged that turmoil in financial markets clearly was triggered by a dramatic weakening of underwriting standards for U.S. subprime mortgages, beginning in late 2004 and extending into 2007.”

http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/fin-mkts/Documents/q4progress update.pdf

I think this is the part where flail, deflect and whine.

Your Intentional Ignorance is noted..... As usual.

There were factors in play long before that. And you know it.
 
Bush Mortgage Bubble = Not to be taken seriously.

The OP isn't intelligent enough understand the safeguards the banks can utililize now that they are not being accused of being racists if they don't lend to minimum wage earners.
 
Your Intentional Ignorance is noted..... As usual.

There were factors in play long before that. And you know it.

thanks for the chuckle fled. I said you would flail, deflect and whine and you did.

Anyhoo I asked you what was " laid long long before [Bush] came into office" that caused a "dramatic weakening of underwriting standards for U.S. subprime mortgages, beginning in late 2004".
 
thanks for the chuckle fled. I said you would flail, deflect and whine and you did.

Anyhoo I asked you what was " laid long long before [Bush] came into office" that caused a "dramatic weakening of underwriting standards for U.S. subprime mortgages, beginning in late 2004".

It has neen explained to you ad nauseum by people far better at explaining than I in your last failure of a thread.

And you know this to be true.
 
Mean Residential Mortgage Loan Rates as of 4PM 6/18/18
30-Year Fixed-Rate VA 4.875% 5.19%
20-Year Fixed Rate 4.625% 4.721%
15-Year Fixed Rate 4.375% 4.496%

3-month trend 30-year fixed rate 15-year fixed rate
3/28/2018 ------- 4.54%-------------------3.98%
3/21/2018 ------- 4.58%-------------------4.00%
3/14/2018 ------- 4.54%-------------------3.95%
3/7/2018--------- 4.59%-------------------4.00%

Seasonal mortgage loan rate increases of 30-70 basis points is not considered a surge. Most real property assessors define seasonal surges as increases of 200-300 basis points over the previous seasonal structures. When compared to other seasonal mortgage loan increases, we can clearly see seasonal rates have increased about 50% less than in past years. Meanwhile, commercial mortgage rates are approximately 40-50 basis point lower than last spring. While listings for both residential A & B properties are showing as much as a 20% drop in asking prices, as much as a 30% drop in closing prices over last year for the same period in most regions of the country. C & D listing are showing stability and slight drops this year, longer time periods for finding qualified buyers. Translating to higher lending standards. Nominally and historically, spring and summer mortgage rates and property prices increase as much as 50% compared to fall and winter. Note increases are not measure by total pricing but by measurement of actual increases or decrease percentages.

Per example, an A class residential property listed in February at $30 mil, delisted after 3 months, then re-listed come May at a Price of $27 mil, subsequent to a 10 year old purchase at $20 mil, is experiencing a 30% drop in pricing, reflecting on the gross gain, not the total price. Right now this is common for A class residential properties. Read the real estate news, almost daily we are hearing A listing celebrity homes being repriced by as much as 50% downward, or better. Listers, for the most part, are still making money, not as much as they expected. This is a very small fraction of the overall marketplace. Not many of us need 10 car garages and 18 bathrooms. I only need one bathroom myself, tho a second for the grandkids with poor aim, doesn't hurt.

The small development company I founded 28 years ago with partners, specializing in re-hab and new construction of high end middle-class housing spec housing development, currently selling between $8-900k, and higher end spec development of residences greater than $5 mil (from which I am retired, but maintain a quiet investment position) currently has 4 high end properties in contract for summer closings, and 3 higher end properties in contract for summer closings. Our only inventory is 11 parcels for high end development and 2 parcels for higher end development, all waiting for permit approvals before breaking ground. We have a buying subscription list of more than 600 qualified qualified buyers ready to place bids. The market, if judging from our position, is extremely healthy, even tho inventories are extremely low. We are actively pursuing buildable locations. We recently closed on a $40 mil 12 story office building we built in Manhattan, considered a low end project by current Manhattan standards tho it is an A address, the lots limited by zoning and pre-conveyances of air rights. A niche development not worthy of the big boys, but perfect for us. That conveyance reflected an approximate $8 mil gross profit, a post tax net of $4.6 mil. A very healthy project subject to participatory lending. The lending institution, in addition to points up front, term interest, and placement of the permanent mortgage, walked away with $2 mil of the gross, a very nice return on their money in less than two years. They are not a bank. Participation gained us a full point lower interest rate on the construction mortgage (translating as lower carrying costs during construction), and a .6 point return on the placement of the permanent financing.
 
Especially when they are wrong to begin with.

You can't even admit when you bung up the simple things.

desperate for a victory are we? Links change over time fled. You obviously wouldn't know because you only post "nuh uh". Anyhoo, this link worked

The Presidents Working Group’s March policy statement acknowledged that turmoil in financial markets clearly was triggered by a dramatic weakening of underwriting standards for U.S. subprime mortgages, beginning in late 2004 and extending into 2007.”

http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/fin-mkts/Documents/q4progress update.pdf

can I get a "nuh uh" for that one too?
 
The OP isn't intelligent enough understand the safeguards the banks can utililize now that they are not being accused of being racists if they don't lend to minimum wage earners.

Wow. I can't believe you posted this. Seriously.

I make my living in the financial services industry. I work internationally on the imposition, impact, and adherence to regulations that impact banks, credit unions, and non-bank lenders. I don't think I've ever seen a post that is so wrong.
 
Mortgages are still being bundled but Bush's policy of protecting predatory lenders was ruled unconstitutional and Dodd Frank put it into law that banks have to verify that the borrower can afford the loan.

An Overview of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau's Ability-to-Repay and Qualified Mortgage Rule

https://www.americanbar.org/publications/blt/2013/04/02_shatz.html

I think there is a lot of merit to QM/ATR, just as there has been to other mortgage regulatory evolutions and implementations through the years, such as TRID, HMDA and HOEPA. The problem with QM/ATR is it actually tightened the credit market in community banks. They don't have the expertise to manage it, and many have simply pulled back on mortgage lending because of it. But generally speaking it was a good idea to implement it.
 
desperate for a victory are we? Links change over time fled. You obviously wouldn't know because you only post "nuh uh". Anyhoo, this link worked



can I get a "nuh uh" for that one too?

Hey, look. More Verning...

I capable of admiting you are wrong.

And continuing to C&P an article in a near religious repetition rather than look at the whole of the situation...
 
U.S. homebuyers, already contending with escalating prices, now are getting hit with the most-expensive mortgage rates in seven years. Funny thing: It’s only making them move faster…..

Home prices jumped 7.6 percent in April from a year earlier to a median of $302,200, and sellers got a record 98.8 percent of what they asked on average, Redfin said Thursday.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/surging-mortgage-rates-set-off-140000677.html

Uh oh, home prices are going up faster than inflation, interest rates going up, derivatives are still unregulated, Glass Steagall is still repealed, Freddie and Fannie still exist as does the CRA. And we have a republican president and congress. The last time we had these conditions, we got a mortgage bubble that destroyed the economy. So what’s to prevent another mortgage bubble? Based on what people tell me caused the Bush Mortgage Bubble, the answer is nothing.

I guess its time to start stocking up on gold and survival seeds again.
Maybe people are buying homes because they have jobs and can afford to now. THANKS TRUMP!

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I'm in the process of selling 2 of my investment properties now. I also advised 2 family members that are on the verge of retiring to sell their homes as well. They are casually looking to move to inland Florida where home prices are by far more affordable.
 
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