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Jackson quits under fire

Floridafan said:
Shoved in my face, surely you are joking. I really do not have to justify anything to you. My opinion is my opinion and it stands.
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LOL!!

Okay. You decline to support your own contentions. Your choice.
 
haymarket said:
So the answer is to get somebody with no comparable managerial experience and simply roll the dice? That makes no sense. The proper thing to do is to get an experienced administrator with a track record of success.
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You mean someone in the lower echelon of management of the VA, possibly?
 
cabse5 said:
You mean someone in the lower echelon of management of the VA, possibly?
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NO - I did not say that. Get an experienced administrator with a track record of success.
 
cabse5 said:
The US has had appointees as head of the VA with plenty of managerial experience that didn't work out.
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So because some bad eggs slip through screening, we should lower the standards of screening dramatically?

No wonder Trump is in office.
 
Mach said:
So because some bad eggs slip through screening, we should lower the standards of screening dramatically?

No wonder Trump is in office.
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How would standards be lowered if Jackson were confirmed as head of VA?
 
WCH said:
Jackson worked in three different Admins. Funny how the Obama had no problem with him being his personal physician.

Maybe he's just sick of the game.
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Ronny Jackson Should Never Have Headed the V.A. Should He Even Be Practicing Medicine?

Dr. Ronny L. Jackson, President Trump’s personal physician and his pick to lead the Veterans Affairs Department, dropped out of the running Thursday morning, after being accused of inappropriately dispensing drugs, including the opioid Percocet, to others, and prescribing himself medication.

In an interview with CNN, Senator Jon Tester of Montana said Dr. Jackson was known as the “candy man” inside the White House. Mr. Tester said a number of sources had told the Senate Veterans’ Affairs Committee that, on overseas trips, Dr. Jackson would “go down the aisle way of the airplane and say, ‘All right, who wants to go to sleep?’ And hand out the prescription drugs like they were candy.” Then, the senator continued, Dr. Jackson would “put them to sleep and then give them the drugs to wake them back up again.”

If true, Dr. Jackson was apparently casually dispensing Ambien for sleep and Provigil for arousal, both of which are powerful controlled substances with a potential for addiction. For any physician, let alone one who treats the president of the United States (and Dr. Jackson has now treated two: Mr. Trump and Barack Obama), such behavior is unethical and danger
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Slyfox696 said:
Has anyone said Jackson isn't a person to be respected?

Are you capable of debating without engaging in obvious fallacies?

It shows he's capable of being a good doctor, in various situations. Now how does that show he's capable of leading a department of hundreds of thousands of jobs and a $180b budget?

Face it, you have nothing but deflections, fallacies and lies. You're only defending this because Trump nominated him, not because of any actual qualifications. Like I said, pure partisanship.
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If you reject all his education, training, experience and intelligence as being unimportant to this position, then ok, to you he’s not qualified. I do think in a reasonable position to disagree with you though.
 
cabse5 said:
Which type of administrator? Not trying to troll you.:)
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An administrator of a large organization with thousands of employees who has a track record of success.
 
cabse5 said:
How would standards be lowered if Jackson were confirmed as head of VA?
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If significant and successful management experience is the norm.
And Jackson has none.
And you claim that it's OK because we have had VA administrators that you believe did poorly when they DID have good experience...

The implication is that you're saying we should waive the significant and successful management experience in the screening of Jackson because (it hasn't been perfect in the past).

If you do not believe that, OK, then we agree, it should be a primary factor. If not, then my point stands.

Have you not seen all the reports of his failures as a leader?
http://thehill.com/policy/healthcar...ving-trump-va-nominee-due-to-lack-of-trust-in
 
haymarket said:
An administrator of a large organization with thousands of employees who has a track record of success.
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Sounds to me like you want Trump to bring a CEO on board. Are you saying that?
 
Mycroft said:
Evidently his performance was good enough to get Obama to promote him to Rear Admiral.

shrug...

Spin, hyperbole, innuendo, speculation...and unnamed sources...are the stock in trade of the media, their talking potato heads and Trump haters nowadays.

Do you support conducting a witch hunt based on rumors?
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If you don’t want to be under the microscope then don’t toss your hat in the ring to manage a government agency. 23 colleagues providing testimony to the Senate is hardly a witch hunt.
 
Napoleon said:
If you don’t want to be under the microscope then don’t toss your hat in the ring to manage a government agency. 23 colleagues providing testimony to the Senate is hardly a witch hunt.
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Oh, there's quite a difference between being under a microscope and being vilified by unsupported rumors from unnamed sources, not to mention outright derogatory spinning of facts.

That's called a witch hunt.
 
vesper said:
Isn't it amazing that Ronny Jackson was Obama's doctor for 8 years and there was not one whisper of the allegations the Democrats are making today. You would think if what they are claiming is true that Ronny Jackson would have been relieved of his duties!

This garbage of destroying a person because they happen to be a Trump nominee is not playing well among the masses.
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Actually, he was only Obama's physician for three years. Before that Captain Jeffrey Kuhlman, MD, USN was the president's physician.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physician_to_the_President


Trump should've vetted him before nominating him to head the second largest agency in the country. Instead, he set him up for public scrutiny. Considering how much Trump tried to purge anyone close to Obama, it's odd that he kept Jackson on...let alone trust him for medical exams and advice.


Drinking on the job
Crashing a government vehicle while drinking
Created a hostile work environment
Stalked female employees
Handed out drugs like candy earning the name "Candyman"
No experience managing a large medical unit or operation.

So what qualified him to head the VA?
 
Slyfox696 said:
What's funny about that?
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He was Obama's assigned phycisian and no one seemed to notice any problems. Did Obama ignore them, or are they non-existant?
 
Mycroft said:
Oh, there's quite a difference between being under a microscope and being vilified by unsupported rumors from unnamed sources, not to mention outright derogatory spinning of facts.

That's called a witch hunt.
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That's a good reason why the vetting process is necessary. Because if the WH doesn't do it...the public will.
 
apdst said:
He was Obama's assigned phycisian and no one seemed to notice any problems. Did Obama ignore them, or are they non-existant?
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Assigning him to a small post in the WH is a far cry from assigning him to head the second largest government agency in the country.
 
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