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Power and liberalism corrupt; absolute power and absolute liberalism corrupt absolutely.* *

jbander said:
show us how me , my party or anyone in the democratic party is a socialist or a communist. He couldn't of course
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Bernie Sanders is an open socialist. Sorry to rock your world!!
 
James972 said:
Bernie Sanders is an open socialist. Sorry to rock your world!!
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as in anything with social in the name makes them a commie , something you don't even know the meaning of. Goog Good Good, this is Another chance to show what stupid is/ Ok bring back your main tenets of socialism that you wrote down for me with their source of course. and with those tenet show us how Sanders is a socialist. THis is so much fun .again he will show all of us that he has no clue. he will disappear or he will try to bull**** his way through this or he will try to change the subject and guess what I won't let him.
 
By the way Bernie never said he was a socialist.
 
iliveonramen said:
I don't because it's completely false.
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obviously if it was false you would not be so afraid to say why. What did you learn from your fear about liberal intelligence and integrity??
 
jbander said:
show us how Sanders is a socialist..
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"You don’t necessarily need a choice of 23 underarm spray deodorants when children are hungry in this country," Sanders told John Harwood
exactly that is a key NaziMarxist economic idea. Avoid wasteful duplication in marketing manufacturing distribution advertising etc by having one state deodorant and one state car. This is why when I rented a car in Hungary in 1985 it had a dip stick rather than a gas gauge and a gravity fed carburetor so that you had to back it up hills to keep the gas flowing, and why 120 million humans slowly starved to death in the USSR and Red China!. Liberals simply lack the IQ to understand how capitalism works.

In a message dated 1/16/2017 8:41:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Bje1000@aol.com writes:

actually he says openly he's a socialist!!While attending the University of Chicago, Sanders joined the Young People’s Socialist League, the youth wing of the Socialist Party USA. He also organized for a communist front, the United Packinghouse Workers Union, which at the time was under investigation by the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

After graduating with a political science degree, Sanders moved to Vermont, where he headed the American People’s History Society, an organ for Marxist propaganda. There, he produced a glowing documentary on the life of socialist revolutionary Eugene Debs, who was jailed for espionage during the Red Scare and hailed by the Bolsheviks as “America’s greatest Marxist.”



n 1985, he traveled to Managua to celebrate the rise to power of the Marxist-Leninist Sandinista government. He called it a “heroic revolution.” Undermining anti-communist US policy, Sanders denounced the Reagan administration’s backing of the Contra rebels in a letter to the Sandinistas.

Sanders: General Electric, good example. General Electric was created in this country by American workers and American consumers....

Huh? Thomas Edison had nothing to do with it? J.P. Morgan had nothing to do with it? This is Marxist magical thinking,








hen, in 1989, as the West was on the verge of winning the Cold War, Sanders addressed the national conference of the US Peace Council — a known front for the Communist Party USA, whose members swore an oath not only to the Soviet Union but to “the triumph of Soviet power in the US.”

Today, Sanders wants to bring what he admired in the USSR, Cuba, Nicaragua and other communist states to America.

For starters, he proposes completely nationalizing our health care system and putting private health insurance and drug companies “out of business.” He also wants to break up “big banks” and control the energy industry, while providing “free” college tuition, a “living wage” and guaranteed homeownership and jobs through massive public works projects. Price tag: $18 trillion.

While a Senator only Obama voted to left of Sanders

Sanders, 73, has been preaching socialism for nearly half a century, and he cites Eugene Debs, the five-time presidential candidate of the Socialist Party of America, as his hero. But he hasn’t always embraced the label.

“I myself don’t use the word socialism,” he said in 1976 in the Vermont Cynic, a student publication at the University of Vermont,


Sanders: General Electric, good example. General Electric was created in this country by American workers and American consumers....

Huh? Thomas Edison had nothing to do with it? J.P. Morgan had nothing to do with it? This is Marxist magical thinking,



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It began for him when he joined the Young People’s Socialist League while a student at the University of Chicago, from which he graduated in 1964. What was the mission of the Young People’s Socialist League?

It was spelled out in the preamble to its constitution: “The Young People’s Socialist League of America calls upon all young people who are interested in the emancipation of the working class from the chains of wage slavery to join its rank and through it and its associated organizations of the International Socialist Movement, to work for the overthrow of the present capitalist system in all its social and economic ramifications, and for the establishment in its stead of a worldwide socialistic cooperative commonwealth.




Sanders called Sandinista leader Daniel Ortega “an impressive guy,” with “deep convictions.” He then accused the Reagan administration of poisoning public perception of the tyrannical regime
 
James972 said:
obviously if it was false you would not be so afraid to say why. What did you learn from your fear about liberal intelligence and integrity??
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Because you obviously operate under a very specific definition of liberalism. You throw out the word expecting use to understand what you are talking about yet you create this amalgamation of ideologies and concepts as "liberal". That's why I asked for clarification.
 
James972 said:
Power and liberalism corrupt; absolute power and absolute liberalism corrupt absolutely.*

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If this is the case why don't we make liberalism illegal as our Founders intended since the more of it we have the more corruption we will have!
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Thomas Jefferson:*
"Our country is now taking so steady a course as to show by what road it will pass to destruction, to wit: by consolidation of power first, and then corruption, its necessary consequence."
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Seems like it applies the conservatives, so there is that.
Pssst, you cannot outlaw thought and only totalitarians such as those in NK and Russia try, as we see you have something in common with them.
 
Casper said:
Seems like it applies the conservatives, so there is that.
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conservatives want to limit power in govt to limit corruption in govt so it does not apply to them, just to liberals. Do you understand?
 
Casper said:
Pssst, you cannot outlaw thought and only totalitarians such as those in NK and Russia try, as we see you have something in common with them.
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what in common?? why are you afraid to say. What do you learn from your fear?
 
iliveonramen said:
Because you obviously operate under a very specific definition of liberalism.
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not at all! Wm F. Buckley Jr. said, in short, conservatives are those of us " against govt" while liberals are for govt. Simple enough?
 
James972 said:
conservatives want to limit power in govt to limit corruption in govt so it does not apply to them, just to liberals. Do you understand?
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Those Conservatives do not exist in Washington.
 
James972 said:
not at all! Wm F. Buckley Jr. said, in short, conservatives are those of us " against govt" while liberals are for govt. Simple enough?
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Not really...Buckley opposed the John Birch society as well as Ayn Rand and her ilk. Your views seem much closer to the latter than to the guy you quoted.
 
James972 said:
not at all! Wm F. Buckley Jr. said, in short, conservatives are those of us " against govt" while liberals are for govt. Simple enough?
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Does the conservative know 1 + 1 = 2? What has the conservative learned from your fear? LOL
 
In a message dated 1/16/2017 8:41:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Bje1000@aol.com writes:




n 1985, he traveled to Managua to celebrate the rise to power of the Marxist-Leninist Sandinista government. He called it a “heroic revolution.” Undermining anti-communist US policy, Sanders denounced the Reagan administration’s backing of the Contra rebels in a letter to the Sandinistas.

Sanders: General Electric, good example. General Electric was created in this country by American workers and American consumers....

Huh? Thomas Edison had nothing to do with it? J.P. Morgan had nothing to do with it? This is Marxist magical thinking,








hen, in 1989, as the West was on the verge of winning the Cold War, Sanders addressed the national conference of the US Peace Council — a known front for the Communist Party USA, whose members swore an oath not only to the Soviet Union but to “the triumph of Soviet power in the US.”

Today, Sanders wants to bring what he admired in the USSR, Cuba, Nicaragua and other communist states to America.

For starters, he proposes completely nationalizing our health care system and putting private health insurance and drug companies “out of business.” He also wants to break up “big banks” and control the energy industry, while providing “free” college tuition, a “living wage” and guaranteed homeownership and jobs through massive public works projects. Price tag: $18 trillion.

While a Senator only Obama voted to left of Sanders

Sanders, 73, has been preaching socialism for nearly half a century, and he cites Eugene Debs, the five-time presidential candidate of the Socialist Party of America, as his hero. But he hasn’t always embraced the label.

“I myself don’t use the word socialism,” he said in 1976 in the Vermont Cynic, a student publication at the University of Vermont,


Sanders: General Electric, good example. General Electric was created in this country by American workers and American consumers....

Huh? Thomas Edison had nothing to do with it? J.P. Morgan had nothing to do with it? This is Marxist magical thinking,



Read more: Blog: How much of a communist is Bernie Sanders? (part 2)
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It began for him when he joined the Young People’s Socialist League while a student at the University of Chicago, from which he graduated in 1964. What was the mission of the Young People’s Socialist League?

It was spelled out in the preamble to its constitution: “The Young People’s Socialist League of America calls upon all young people who are interested in the emancipation of the working class from the chains of wage slavery to join its rank and through it and its associated organizations of the International Socialist Movement, to work for the overthrow of the present capitalist system in all its social and economic ramifications, and for the establishment in its stead of a worldwide socialistic cooperative commonwealth.




Sanders called Sandinista leader Daniel Ortega “an impressive guy,” with “deep convictions.” He then accused the Reagan administration of poisoning public perception of the tyrannical regime[/QUOTE]

James mind isn't exactly tunes to the right frequency. Sanders has no plan that includes any aspect of the main tenets of socialism. If you want to know exactly what he is ,read this about a Democratic socialist. Like I've said many times if your mind is small enough anything with social in the name makes it communist. as we see with our james boy. If you want the story the real story go to Bernie Sanders ? socialist or democratic socialist? | PolitiFact a few examples National Socialist German Workers’ Party NAZI----Progressivism
Green politics Democratic socialism is Green party--Social democracy is the Justice party. Of course the communist, Social security, Republican Party of the Social Order PROSi, Social Democratic Party of Germany, Christian social union party German. Social Democratic Party Switzerland. James thinks these are all socialist and commies . james as usual give real powerful sources , one is a email address and one is a facebook page. If the farce of james points don't get to you, Google each one yourself , what you will find is many don't say what he says they say, or there is not one source other then his email address page or his facebook page he is presenting as proof. By the way to make this small enough to go into this forum I cut James first paragraph from this . It's nonsense anyway but it is still on his comment above
 
Unbelievable james is trying to pass facebook pages and emails as source's for his argument. You just can't make this goofiness up.
 
iliveonramen said:
Not really...Buckley opposed the John Birch society as well as Ayn Rand and her ilk. Your views seem much closer to the latter than to the guy you quoted.
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why closer you didn’t say. i wonder why the liberal forgot?
 
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