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Trump is still the least popular president of all time according to Nate Silver

Allies of Donald Trump have increasingly been pushing back on stories of his intense unpopularity.
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Let them push how popular he is. Let Trump and Republicans feel safe. Let the democrats feel like they need every single vote to have a chance. Countless anti Trump voters stayed home or voted 3rd party because there was no way Hillary could lose. If the anti Trump crowd stays in that mindset they could very well see another 4 years of this clown.
 
phattonez said:
Nixon won 49 states in 1972, including a whopping 60% of the popular vote (compared to 37 for McGovern). I think you underestimate how popular Nixon was.
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The Right has a long history of electing men with zero integrity. Some things never change eh ?
 
Trump will always have at least 35% support from the GOP base. For that reason alone, I don't think he'll ever sink as low as let's say Dubya did in 2008. We are much more divided politically now compared to then, and we were very divided then. But that 35% will never abandon Trump because in their minds doing so will mean the EVIL "Liberals" would have won
 
yankintx said:
The Right has a long history of electing men with zero integrity. Some things never change eh ?
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Let's tally up the integrity scorecard
Ike,Kennedy ( big lead GOP ), Johnson, Nixon , ( Uh Dems catching up) Ford ( wasn't really elected so can't count him) ,Carter, (Dems catching up again) , Reagan , Bush ( uh oh huge lead GOP) ,Clinton YIKES ( this is Secretariat at the Belmont stuff!!) ,Bush ( Oh come on ref, stop this fight !!) ,Obama, Trump, Some catching up but too little too late.




Winner by major decision. GOP
 




Folks in the Midwest have Trump all figured out

​Many Democrats still wonder how folks in the Midwest can believe what they hear from Donald Trump. The answer: Often, they don’t.
In Trump Country, people have learned to take a wait-and-see approach to the president’s extreme and categorical statements, and they keep the salt shaker handy when reading the tweets of @realDonaldTrump. They’ve noticed that the United States has not quit NATO; that NAFTA was not torn up on Day One (or any other day); that Jeff Sessions is still the attorney general; that North Korea has been visited with neither fire nor fury; that the government has not been eviscerated. In fact, spending is going up, up, up.
That Trump also causes blood pressures to spike on “Morning Joe”and CNN only adds to the amusement in the flyover states as Trump exaggerates, fulminates and blusters. My Midwestern neighbors have figured out that these are the tools of a huckster salesman. And a lot of them like what the huckster is selling. . . .
 
Floridafan said:
Its not about how Nixon began, but how he ended.
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Which is not what you stated. Methinks you stated never.

But contrary to some opinions, President Trump is not ended. I guess we'll have to wait a while for a valid comparison.
 
Chomsky said:
And Trump is solidly on the rise. He's not very high, because his rise was from a dreadful low. But no one can deny he's on an upswing.
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Yes he is and I find that amazing considering all the negative press he receives on a daily basis. Last I checked over 90% of all coverage has been very negative.
 
Floridafan said:
Allies of Donald Trump have increasingly been pushing back on stories of his intense unpopularity.

Trump is falsely claiming that his approval rating is higher than Obama’s and Fox is thumping his seven-point increase in the past month. Even liberal outlets like New York magazine are reporting that Trump’s numbers are “on the rise.”
But Trump is benefitting from low expectations. Because he’s still the least popular president of all-time according to numbers tracked by data maven Nate Silver.

On Silver’s site FiveThirtyEight, you can see interactive graphs which track Trump’s approval rating against every president who’s served since the advent of modern polling. Currently, 53% of Americans disapprove of Trump, compared to just 40% who approve.

Those stats are drawn from several weighted polls and show that Trump has had a lower approval than any president, ever.

The only times Trump has been more popular than past presidents are during the first week of the George W. Bush presidency, 13 days in the middle of Bill Clinton’s first term and several months of Ford’s term in which the two anti-intellectual and scandal-ridden Republican’s numbers cross-cross often. In fact, Trump’s numbers track very closely to Ford’s numbers in the middle of his term.

Richard Nixon was never as unpopular as Trump is right now
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Nate Silver also said Hillary was going to win the election by a huge margin.
 
vesper said:
Yes he is and I find that amazing considering all the negative press he receives on a daily basis. Last I checked over 90% of all coverage has been very negative.
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That's because 90% of what he does sucks.

It's pathetic how he brags whenever he gets up to 50 on one single poll.

He doesn't announce when he slips back down.

But then when he crawls back up to 50 on that single poll, he brags again.

#Sad
 
And by the way, he's back down to 47% at Rasmussen.

He can't even keep his head above water at Rasmussen for very long.
 
The thing I have noticed about Trumps approval numbers is that we get told often that he is a little boy about them, looking at them for validation as we are told that he does with his TV ratings, And that may be true. But it does not seem to make a lick of difference regarding what Trump is going to do today and tomorrow, He is going to work on the things that he talked about at the rallies as best he can, he is going to work on what he feels I think is his mandate.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
The thing I have noticed about Trumps approval numbers is that we get told often that he is a little boy about them, looking at them for validation as we are told that he does with his TV ratings, And that may be true. But it does not seem to make a lick of difference regarding what Trump is going to do today and tomorrow, He is going to work on the things that he talked about at the rallies as best he can, he is going to work on what he feels I think is his mandate.
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"as best he can" isn't very good at all.

He spends most of his time burning bridges.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Did you perchance see the poll that claims that 93% of Trump voters do not regret their choice?

http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/tabsHPTrumppolicies20180328.pdf

The program of throwing him out is not going very well.
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As sick as that number is, Trump can't afford to lose 1% of the vote. He squeaked out a win with a few thousand well-placed votes. He can't afford to lose any of them. But he has lost plenty of 'em. I'm living with a Trump voter who now thinks Trump is a joke.

My husband would say he doesn't regret his choice -- because the alternative was Hillary.

In 2020, the alternative won't be Hillary.
 
Amelia said:
And by the way, he's back down to 47% at Rasmussen.

He can't even keep his head above water at Rasmussen for very long.
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You won't hear a peep from Trump and his goons now. Only when he's back at 50% in that one poll.
 
Amelia said:
As sick as that number is, Trump can't afford to lose 1% of the vote. He squeaked out a win with a few thousand well-placed votes. He can't afford to lose any of them. But he has lost plenty of 'em. I'm living with a Trump voter who now thinks Trump is a joke.

My husband would say he doesn't regret his choice -- because the alternative was Hillary.

In 2020, the alternative won't be Hillary.
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Yep. Trump could win in 2020 (as anything can happen), but he's certainly VERY vulnerable. One could look at approval ratings, and see that no president in recent times won re-election with an approval rating below 50%. All 3 that won re-election (Clinton, Bush II, and Obama), all had approval ratings above 50% when they won their re-elections. Bush Sr. Lost to Clinton...and his approval was below 50%. Could Trump buck that trend? Possibly, but considering that he won the first time by such a slim margin, against a historically unpopular Democrat presidential candidate, it's certainly the furthest thing from a guarantee. Basically, he could win again if the Dems nominate another really bad candidate...which is sadly entirely possible. Then again, Trump also had the benefit in 2016 of being the "unknown", and supposedly "anti establishment" running against the epitome of establishment in Hillary Clinton. Now that Trump is president, he will have to run on his record in 2020, not talking points, or insulting others. People KNOW how he governs now, he's no longer the "unknown". And he's VERY much a politician now, no longer an "outsider". 2020 will be an entirely different ballgame for Trump than 2016 was.
 
vesper said:
Yes he is and I find that amazing considering all the negative press he receives on a daily basis. Last I checked over 90% of all coverage has been very negative.
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That's because they cover the news. The positive news hasn't been enough to fill a broadsheet front page, or the opening 5 minutes.
 
Floridafan said:
Allies of Donald Trump have increasingly been pushing back on stories of his intense unpopularity.

Trump is falsely claiming that his approval rating is higher than Obama’s and Fox is thumping his seven-point increase in the past month. Even liberal outlets like New York magazine are reporting that Trump’s numbers are “on the rise.”
But Trump is benefitting from low expectations. Because he’s still the least popular president of all-time according to numbers tracked by data maven Nate Silver.

On Silver’s site FiveThirtyEight, you can see interactive graphs which track Trump’s approval rating against every president who’s served since the advent of modern polling. Currently, 53% of Americans disapprove of Trump, compared to just 40% who approve.

Those stats are drawn from several weighted polls and show that Trump has had a lower approval than any president, ever.

The only times Trump has been more popular than past presidents are during the first week of the George W. Bush presidency, 13 days in the middle of Bill Clinton’s first term and several months of Ford’s term in which the two anti-intellectual and scandal-ridden Republican’s numbers cross-cross often. In fact, Trump’s numbers track very closely to Ford’s numbers in the middle of his term.

Richard Nixon was never as unpopular as Trump is right now
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Why is it so important for you to trash a man in the office a little over a year and someone who has created 3 million more jobs than when Obama left office, created an 8.0% U-6 rate, 1 million fewer part time for economic reasons employment, 3.0, 3.1 and 2.9% GDP rates, and now has allowed American people to keep more of what they earn?? Then the market went up over 400 points today and is back exceeding 20% since Trump took office and yet you leftists cannot celebrate successes. Keep posting approval ratings of polls out of context and keep bashing Trump while continuing to lose elections. The silent majority doesn't participate in polls but they do vote and are sick and tired of the leftwing lies and distortions. Obama gave us Trump and your attitude today will keep him in office for the next 7 years
 
Grand Mal said:
That's because they cover the news. The positive news hasn't been enough to fill a broadsheet front page, or the opening 5 minutes.
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So 3 million more Americans working today than when Obama left office, the 8.0% U-6 rate the 3% GDP growth, American first economic policies, a stock market over 24,000 or exceeding 20% growth since inauguration isn't positive economic news? Could it be that you are incapable of celebrating success and are so full of hatred that you choose not to see the positives happening in this country?

Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey
Original Data Value

Series Id: LNS12000000
Seasonally Adjusted
Series title: (Seas) Employment Level
Labor force status: Employed
Type of data: Number in thousands
Age: 16 years and over
Years: 2008 to 2018

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
2008 146378 146156 146086 146132 145908 145737 145532 145203 145076 144802 144100 143369
2009 142152 141640 140707 140656 140248 140009 139901 139492 138818 138432 138659 138013
2010 138438 138581 138751 139297 139241 139141 139179 139438 139396 139119 139044 139301
2011 139250 139394 139639 139586 139624 139384 139524 139942 140183 140368 140826 140902
2012 141584 141858 142036 141899 142206 142391 142292 142291 143044 143431 143333 143330
2013 143292 143362 143316 143635 143882 143999 144264 144326 144418 143537 144479 144778
2014 145122 145161 145673 145680 145825 146267 146401 146522 146752 147411 147391 147597
2015 148113 148100 148175 148505 148788 148806 148830 149136 148810 149254 149486 150135
2016 150576 151005 151229 150978 151048 151164 151484 151687 151815 151939 152126 152233
2017 152076 152511 153064 153161 152892 153250 153511 153471 154324 153846 153917 154021
2018 154430 155215 155178
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Conservative said:
Why is it so important for you to trash a man in the office a little over a year and someone who has created 3 million more jobs than when Obama left office, created an 8.0% U-6 rate, 1 million fewer part time for economic reasons employment, 3.0, 3.1 and 2.9% GDP rates, and now has allowed American people to keep more of what they earn?? Then the market went up over 400 points today and is back exceeding 20% since Trump took office and yet you leftists cannot celebrate successes. Keep posting approval ratings of polls out of context and keep bashing Trump while continuing to lose elections. The silent majority doesn't participate in polls but they do vote and are sick and tired of the leftwing lies and distortions. Obama gave us Trump and your attitude today will keep him in office for the next 7 years
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HabanaG, is "keeping more of your own" the same as running up a 1-2 trillion dollar debt?
Has he created 3 million more jobs, absolutely not. In fact what he has created are all burger flippers.
Its not what the market is today, but where it ends.
How many ID's will you post the same questions under?
 
Floridafan said:
HabanaG, is "keeping more of your own" the same as running up a 1-2 trillion dollar debt?
Has he created 3 million more jobs, absolutely not. In fact what he has created are all burger flippers.
Its not what the market is today, but where it ends.
How many ID's will you post the same questions under?
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Yes and it is also where the debt ends up not what it is projected to be but then again you are more interesting in trashing Trump than actual data and actual results. You keeping more of what you earn has nothing to do with the debt and in fact means you need less of that so called govt. "help" offered by bureaucrats so why is govt. spending never an issue with you? What is it about liberalism that prevents people like you from celebrating people keeping more of what they earn? How does someone else getting more of a tax cut hurt you, your family or the country?? Now run, don't expect an answer
 
Amelia said:
And by the way, he's back down to 47% at Rasmussen.

He can't even keep his head above water at Rasmussen for very long.
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Ooops, he's back up to 48%. On Rasmussen. He might crack 50 again. On Rasmussen. Are you ready?

I'm so excited, I can barely contain myself.
 
Conservative said:
Yes and it is also where the debt ends up not what it is projected to be but then again you are more interesting in trashing Trump than actual data and actual results. You keeping more of what you earn has nothing to do with the debt and in fact means you need less of that so called govt. "help" offered by bureaucrats so why is govt. spending never an issue with you? What is it about liberalism that prevents people like you from celebrating people keeping more of what they earn? How does someone else getting more of a tax cut hurt you, your family or the country?? Now run, don't expect an answer
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"keeping more of your money" has everything to do with our debt. Projections are 1.5-2 trillion will be added to our debt just from this tax cut. Then we have another trillion or so, from the latest spending bill, and we have 2.5-3 trillion added to our national debt. Tell us again how your kind wants balanced budgets, and lower debt. How bout less government and draining the swamp. You have lied about everything.
 
Floridafan said:
"keeping more of your money" has everything to do with our debt. Projections are 1.5-2 trillion will be added to our debt just from this tax cut. Then we have another trillion or so, from the latest spending bill, and we have 2.5-3 trillion added to our national debt. Tell us again how your kind wants balanced budgets, and lower debt. How bout less government and draining the swamp. You have lied about everything.
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How does keeping more of YOUR money create Federal Debt? Were you this outraged when Obama increased the debt 9.3 trillion dollars? Your projections are just that PROJECTIONS. We will see where those numbers end in September 2018. You want badly to believe what you are told but totally ignore the economic activity that is happening right now because it isn't being publicized, 3% GDP growth and over 3 million more Americans employed and paying taxes. Why aren't those numbers being celebrated? Calling me a liar is one thing, proving it is another. Results matter except to you
 
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