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Stormy says a couple of spanks on the but and Trump's behavior was more appropriate.

JMR said:
He should listen to the advice of a friend...Howard Stern...."get the f*** out of the White House" He had the life of Reilly, got persuaded that the people "loved him" some do, most don't. He was a lot happier before he "WON" Go Donald, go....
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Of course you libs would love that... or from some here, if he would simply, conveniently just die somehow.

It would let all y'all settle back in silent repose, asleep, content with messages without content. Its not hard, most of us do the same thing here on DP everyday, the Donald is making progressive lefties look like the low IQ, think they are educated but really are only over indoctrinated, the beyond ignoramuses they really are.

Where has your side won? Even trying to subvert, lie, cheat and rig the game...so many urban clueless yahooooos, not enough time, absolutely zero sapience :lamo

Trump wins.
 
Chomsky said:
Yep, exactly.

He didn't even know what was in the budget he was signing, until Fox & Friends briefed him! Think about that.
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Trump didnt have to know.

He knew enough to let both lib and lib light establishment types put the noose around their own necks with this monstrosity, got the needed military budget for two years of rebuilding after slendernan took a wrecking ball to our military, with plenty extra to build our defensive wall.

Dumb like a fox, our President continues to win...I should never doubt the only true professional in this game, beating life long politicians at their own game, the only game they even know... over and over and over and...
 
Chomsky said:
And that's to say nothing of what he's done to his family and possibly his organization. Mueller's going through Trump & his org's finances with a fine tooth comb, and he's sharing what he finds with the NY State A.G.

There's no way Trump's new life could be better than the one he had ...
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Our president understands his sacrifice.

Many before ( and will in the future ) have given much more, their last full measure so that their, our common American posterity might live free and prosper. He understands the noble obligation of those who have been given, earned much.
 
You sick sick hypocritically shameless voyuers.

Andy nimpunCoop was enjoying the salacious nitty gritty details far too much, who could watch that trash?. Wonder if nimpunCoop had the self discipline, waited until he got home to his lover to " celebrate " in similarly gratuitous fashion?

Yechhhhhhho, let it go, we, the American public, dont care.
 
Chomsky said:
Yep, exactly.

He didn't even know what was in the budget he was signing, until Fox & Friends briefed him! Think about that.
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I had a problem with him signing a bill that he or his staff could not of possibly had time to read. That is a fair criticism of Trump and the entire Senate too. Trump should of acted like a leader and let the gov shutdown while he read through the bill and fully digested what was in it. Now he is stuck trying to put lipstick on a pig.

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Chomsky said:
And that's to say nothing of what he's done to his family and possibly his organization. Mueller's going through Trump & his org's finances with a fine tooth comb, and he's sharing what he finds with the NY State A.G.

There's no way Trump's new life could be better than the one he had ...
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And isn't that exactly the point of the investigation. Does it not send a chilling message to any and all outsiders who want to go to Washington to clean things up. If your not in their club, they will send the full force of the gov against you and your family. They will deystroy any and all tresspassers.

I have a lot of respect and gratitude toward our potus for fighting this battle on behalf of the American people. It's a big reason why his supporters give him passes on so many of the things that people just can't believe he gets a pass on.

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Rich123 said:
Well as Steven Cobert says, John kelly, now you know what to do.:lol::lol::lol::lol:
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You guys must all get that feeling like a puppy sniffing your ear to get so hung up on someone else’s sexuality.

You should not be allowed to own firearms. ;)
 
shrubnose said:
Trump is the GOP's leader.
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Give me a break. The republicans don't want anything to do with Trump. If he did not annihilate all their bought and paid for puppets they would not even acknowledge Trump. They knew the party would be over if they tried to prop up one of their puppets like the democrats did with Hillary instead of letting the people decide who they want. It was the screwing over of Bernie by the party that was the rigging of the election that cost Hillary to lose. That is what needs to be investigated along with the corruption in the DNC that was exposed by Putin or whoever hacked into their system.
 
bearpoker said:
I don't think Trump wanted to win as much as he wanted to run. He loved the campaign, the rallies, the adulation of the crowd, besting his opponents with with snarky nicknames, all around gutter fighting. It was Trump's version of heaven. Being president? Not so much.
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I agree!

It was a PR stunt, that got carried away. A joke, gone bad. And a terrible reflection on the American people.
 
Gaugingcatenate said:
Trump didnt have to know.

He knew enough to let both lib and lib light establishment types put the noose around their own necks with this monstrosity, got the needed military budget for two years of rebuilding after slendernan took a wrecking ball to our military, with plenty extra to build our defensive wall.

Dumb like a fox, our President continues to win...I should never doubt the only true professional in this game, beating life long politicians at their own game, the only game they even know... over and over and over and...
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Straight-up, this is one of the most bull**** rationalizations I've ever seen.
 
trouble13 said:
I had a problem with him signing a bill that he or his staff could not of possibly had time to read. That is a fair criticism of Trump and the entire Senate too. Trump should of acted like a leader and let the gov shutdown while he read through the bill and fully digested what was in it. Now he is stuck trying to put lipstick on a pig.

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Yep. It's a sleazy bull**** bill.

Trump could have done the country and his political capital & stature a great deal of good, by not signing it and subsequently spending the weekend with his staff pouring over it. Then sending the bill back with his proposed changes, leaving the ball in Congress' court, while warn them publicly to never pull **** like that again!

I don't know what he was thinking to let Congress push him around like that, unless he fears them due to Mueller's probe? Otherwise, I have no idea what to make of it.
 
trouble13 said:
And isn't that exactly the point of the investigation. Does it not send a chilling message to any and all outsiders who want to go to Washington to clean things up. If your not in their club, they will send the full force of the gov against you and your family. They will deystroy any and all tresspassers.

I have a lot of respect and gratitude toward our potus for fighting this battle on behalf of the American people. It's a big reason why his supporters give him passes on so many of the things that people just can't believe he gets a pass on.

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I'd like to think the point is:

"No crooks nor con artists need apply. If you want to be President, have a clean nose."

There's always the possibility of going too far, but I'd rather have an overly clean & honest President, than one that isn't clean or honest enough. I want the standards for President to be very high.
 
Chomsky said:
Yep. It's a sleazy bull**** bill.

Trump could have done the country and his political capital & stature a great deal of good, by not signing it and subsequently spending the weekend with his staff pouring over it. Then sending the bill back with his proposed changes, leaving the ball in Congress' court, while warn them publicly to never pull **** like that again!

I don't know what he was thinking to let Congress push him around like that, unless he fears them due to Mueller's probe? Otherwise, I have no idea what to make of it.
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I agree and it's fair to hang this around his neck like an albatross. His speech didn't fly with me about how he he didn't like signing it and it would never happen again. It could of been a great bill but you don't sign it until you understand what's in it. Him being a buisiness man understands that you never blindly sign a contract without understanding it. Signing it without reading it is a dereliction of his responsibility. Him and every yes vote in congress that did so without reading it was a betrayal of the American people. I would love it if every one of them lost their seat over it.

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trouble13 said:
I agree and it's fair to hang this around his neck like an albatross. His speech didn't fly with me about how he he didn't like signing it and it would never happen again. It could of been a great bill but you don't sign it until you understand what's in it. Him being a buisiness man understands that you never blindly sign a contract without understanding it. Signing it without reading it is a dereliction of his responsibility. Him and every yes vote in congress that did so without reading it was a betrayal of the American people. I would love it if every one of them lost their seat over it.

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Agreed. Congress no longer debates in public, with the citizens seeing transparency and giving their feedback from the body politic. Now, a few Congressional Party elites meet in private after entertaining their lobbyists (also in private), and produce a dictum to be ratified! Argh!

As to Trump response though, I'm at a loss. His reaction seemed way out of character. He rolled right over, and died.
 
Chomsky said:
I'd like to think the point is:

"No crooks nor con artists need apply. If you want to be President, have a clean nose."

There's always the possibility of going too far, but I'd rather have an overly clean & honest President, than one that isn't clean or honest enough. I want the standards for President to be very high.
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Absolutely I agree with your sentiment. The problem here is two things.

1. They are being very selective about who they are holding to that standard. They are doing everything in their power to find a way go prosecute Trump and they did everything they could to avoid prosecuting Clinton. They have undisclosed hush funds to pay off their sexual harassment victims. If they held everyone to the same standard fine but I'm not going to hold Trump to any standard other than my own.

2. If you look hard enough and long enough your gonna find things in everyone's past. It appears so far they are trying to make mountains out of molehills.

Also I'm be very patient about waiting go hear from mueller but on the surface it does not appear he is conducting a nonpartisan investigation. Ethically I think you and I are similar but politically speaking we believe in different solutions. I want to ask you a question about this investigation on an ethical level. Are you troubled at all by how partisan muellers team is? While I'm not ready to condemn him over it, I am very concerned that this isn't an objective investigation where the facts are going to lead us to the conclusions. My concern is that these people are trying to make the facts fit into the mold that fits predetermined conclusions.

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shrubnose said:
When he isn't busy cheating on his wife,eh?

Aman has to set priorities-some things are more important than others
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His private interests are of no interest to me. His obligation to me is his public responsibilities

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trouble13 said:
Absolutely I agree with your sentiment. The problem here is two things.

1. They are being very selective about who they are holding to that standard. They are doing everything in their power to find a way go prosecute Trump and they did everything they could to avoid prosecuting Clinton. They have undisclosed hush funds to pay off their sexual harassment victims. If they held everyone to the same standard fine but I'm not going to hold Trump to any standard other than my own.
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I really don't see the Clinton bias you do. In fact, I've seen Trey Gowdy & the Republicans go after her like nobody before. Up 'till now, I don't think anyone in politics has been vetted as well as her. But I will say this: I don't follower her lately as much as Trump for obvious reasons. But if new dirty crap comes up on her, I have no problem with taking her down.

2. If you look hard enough and long enough your gonna find things in everyone's past. It appears so far they are trying to make mountains out of molehills.
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I don't disagree with your point in general here. But I don't see it applied to Trump & his band of pranksters. He seems to have far too much dirt in his general orbit, and I suspect he's indeed quite dirty. Birds of feather flock together, and Trump surrounds himself with crap. If anything, he's worth investigating due to his lies & deception alone.

Also I'm be very patient about waiting go hear from mueller but on the surface it does not appear he is conducting a nonpartisan investigation. Ethically I think you and I are similar but politically speaking we believe in different solutions. I want to ask you a question about this investigation on an ethical level. Are you troubled at all by how partisan muellers team is? While I'm not ready to condemn him over it, I am very concerned that this isn't an objective investigation where the facts are going to lead us to the conclusions. My concern is that these people are trying to make the facts fit into the mold that fits predetermined conclusions.

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Actually, I'm not sure about how I feel about that. What we've seen from texts so far has been pretty harmless, despite the hyperbole of secret societies and such. We can't stop individuals from being members of political parties or having political opinion. But we can evaluate them on their work performance, which is what counts.

Quite honestly, with all the lies, deception, and bad players around Trump, I suspect Mueller's staff believe they are doing the patriotic work that I believe they are.
 
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