Trump PA Speech

NeverTrumpGOP said:

I can post about whatever I want, you commies.

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Yes, you can. However, when it's nothing but "bitch bitch bitch about Trump" it gets kinda like a broken record. Especially when it's about something stupid he's said.

Where were you when Obama was saying a bunch of stupid stuff?

Velvet Elvis said:

Yes, you can. However, when it's nothing but "bitch bitch bitch about Trump" it gets kinda like a broken record. Especially when it's about something stupid he's said.

Where were you when Obama was saying a bunch of stupid stuff?

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New Rule: You cannot go back to Obama when Trump does all that stuff on a daily/hourly basis. There is just NO comparison. I mean, Obama didn't say 30 stupid or incoherent lines in every freaking speech.

These are very real and concerning controversies w/Trump. Not fake controversies like with what Obama had to deal with, and yes I fell for some of them too.

NeverTrumpGOP said:

New Rule: You cannot go back to Obama when Trump does all that stuff on a daily/hourly basis. There is just NO comparison. I mean, Obama didn't say 30 stupid or incoherent lines in every freaking speech.

These are very real and concerning controversies w/Trump. Not fake controversies like with what Obama had to deal with, and yes I fell for some of them too.

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You guys forfeited that rule when Obama was elected, and we heard about Bush for years and years.

tres borrachos said:

And did you see the uneducated behind him clapping and smiling and hooting and hollering when he said that?

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Those same morons cheering for Trump when he "joked" about being president for life would have all had aneurisms had the EVIL Kenyan Muslim said the same thing.

Velvet Elvis said:

You guys forfeited that rule when Obama was elected, and we heard about Bush for years and years.

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Obama didn't spend 6 years saying Bush wasn't born in the United States. Obama didn't say Bush wiretapped him, without providing any proof. Obama didn't obsess over his victories over McCain and Romney the way Trump does over his victory over Clinton. Obama didn't call any of his political opponents wives ugly, the way Trump did. Obama didn't tell his supporters to "rough up protestors" the way your hero did. Obama didn't claim any of his political opponents fathers participated in the JFK assassination the way Trump did. There's much more, but you get the gist.

NeverTrumpGOP said:

I can post about whatever I want, you commies. You think I'm not worried about what he does when I post all the stupid crap he does everyday??? Wow. You guys don't take rejection well.

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Your posts just make you look ridiculous. If your goal is to change the middle's minds in ain't working. The only people who agree with you are the ones who already agree with you. Personally, I like to challenge the minds of those in the middle so I don't post nonsense because I want my posts to count for something.

Moderate Right said:

Your posts just make you look ridiculous. If your goal is to change the middle's minds in ain't working. The only people who agree with you are the ones who already agree with you. Personally, I like to challenge the minds of those in the middle so I don't post nonsense because I want my posts to count for something.

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None of what I post is nonsense they are headlines of what is going on in the WH on a daily basis. Your posts on the other hand...

NeverTrumpGOP said:

None of what I post is nonsense they are headlines of what is going on in the WH on a daily basis. Your posts on the other hand...

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It is the nonsense of the biased media, the huge majority of it invented because they can't stand the fact that their liberal media did not win the election. But, this same liberal media played and played and played this same nonsense before the election and didn't win and now they have gone rabid in knowing that they are no longer relevant. Do I really have to show you proof of the public's mistrust of the media, which gets more and more everyday? Americans have learned that most of the media is fake news.

Moderate Right said:

It is the nonsense of the biased media, the huge majority of it invented because they can't stand the fact that their liberal media did not win the election. But, this same liberal media played and played and played this same nonsense before the election and didn't win and now they have gone rabid in knowing that they are no longer relevant. Do I really have to show you proof of the public's mistrust of the media, which gets more and more everyday? Americans have learned that most of the media is fake news.

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Dude you gotta let up on the media, no one didn't even run from the media. Except ya know, Trump himself, who was a reality star. Take off your media hatred for two seconds.

sangha said:

Ideas?

Exactly how much time did Trump spend talking about ideas compared to how much time he spent talking about himself and the things he obsesses about?

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Part of Trump's appeal is his charm and high energy.

So many times when a politician speaks, you fall asleep. Trump's magnetic energy causes people to get excited. In many ways, he is like a rockstar.

Every time Hillary came to speak, I always got sleepy. Trump is many names however boring is not one of them.

When you go to a Trump rally, the last thing you would do is fall asleep.

Interesting to read about President Trump's speech.
Was it problematic?
Not at all.

Puigb said:

Obama didn't spend 6 years saying Bush wasn't born in the United States.

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Because, unlike Obama, there was absolutely no doubt. I'm not jumping on that bandwagon, but there definitely were enough compelling cases.

Obama didn't say Bush wiretapped him, without providing any proof.

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No, but he pretty much blamed Bush for everything else.

Obama didn't obsess over his victories over McCain.

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Bullcrap.

Obama didn't call any of his political opponents wives ugly, the way Trump did.

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Well, she is kind of a horse face. Not to mention, a complete megalomaniac.

Obama didn't tell his supporters to "rough up protestors" the way your hero did.

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Obama didn't face the kind of protesters Trump did. Not a long shot.

Obama didn't claim any of his political opponents fathers participated in the JFK assassination the way Trump did.

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Citation? I've never heard that one.

ttwtt78640 said:

Yep, politicians will make political speeches spewing talking points. The best way to beat them is to make arguments why your candidate's ideas are better not to try to paint the other candidate and their supporters as being dumb or dishonest.

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Try?


Who the **** is trying.

The man is a ****ing moron who never tells the truth and you want what? To clean up his convoluted speech into something higher than grade four?

OK, let's bring it down to a real debate, no lies. Tell us, HOW MANY STEEL MILLS HAVE ANNOUNCED THEY ARE OPENING?

If you want it kept to the issue then moron will have to as well by showing up and not lying for once in his life. He's the guy who DOVE into the gutter, hurling personal insults left and right, often at his own party members and you say WE'RE being unfair by pointing out how crooked, dishonest, stupid and conniving he is.

Fat chance, my friend. Get ready because this is just the start. Every time this lying piece of **** opens his mouth, people around the world will delight in shoving his racist lies back down his throat. You have created a monster and it's not Trump, but honest folk who are sending him were the **** he belongs.

Velvet Elvis said:

Because, unlike Obama, there was absolutely no doubt. I'm not jumping on that bandwagon, but there definitely were enough compelling cases.

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No, there was never any doubt about Obama. Trump is just a race baiting piece of crap who jumped on the birther bandwagon in a desperate attempt to pander to the far right in the GOP. And guess what? It worked.

Velvet Elvis said:

No, but he pretty much blamed Bush for everything else.

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Oh christ, current president's usually blame the previous presidents for many problems and issues they have during their presidencies, especially if the previous president came from a different political party. Bush did it too, and Trump does it all the time. But none of them comes close to Trump accusing Obama of not being born in the United States, OR accusing Obama of wiretapping him. Hell, Obama and Bush get along just fine now. Trump? None of the ex president's like his fat ass.

Velvet Elvis said:

Bullcrap.

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Man, you are failing badly here. Your proof that Obama was obsessed with his victory over McCain was some comment he made four days after his inauguration? You are going to compare that to Trump who on twitter, and in person (especially at his rallies) still mention's Clinton and his victory over and over and over again? Did Obama viscously attack McCain and Romney after he defeated them, the way your hero constantly attacks Clinton?

Velvet Elvis said:

Well, she is kind of a horse face. Not to mention, a complete megalomaniac.

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You're calling Ted Cruz's wife a horse face and a megalomaniac? Man, you are just as bad as Trump.

Velvet Elvis said:

Obama didn't face the kind of protesters Trump did. Not a long shot.

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Doesn't matter. Trump was still inciting violence, which is actually illegal. But elitists like Trump usually never pay for their criminal behavior.

Velvet Elvis said:

Citation? I've never heard that one.

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https://www.politico.com/blogs/2016...-results/2016/05/trump-ted-cruz-father-222730