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    Re: Did Obama admin issue a “stand down” order on Russian meddling?

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    Who cares?
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    So there is absolutely no evidence this woman, whom you called a slut, did this but you are ready to take someone's word as evidence. Guess you don't think witch hunts have to end when it's going after the certain people.

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    Re: Did Obama admin issue a “stand down” order on Russian meddling?

    What's strange about that article is this is not that long ago, and it details things like specific, named, high level U.S official saying they fear if they provoke a cyberspace war with Russia, that the U.S. has more to lose, so they shied away from it. Is this not sensitive national security information? Does our national security apparatus obfuscate with such "leaks", and release false information all the time to muddy the water? Or do we just let it all hang out?

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    Re: Did Obama admin issue a “stand down” order on Russian meddling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Oh that works alright...know why? Cause they are involved and guilty most the time they are accused ( cant remember a time either was falsely accused, can you? ) enough as well as being all over the map, fudging in and with so many areas
    I imagine we could say that of Trump, Bush, Bill C, Reagan as well.

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    Re: Did Obama admin issue a “stand down” order on Russian meddling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nickyjo View Post
    I imagine we could say that of Trump, Bush, Bill C, Reagan as well.
    No, not really.. Not with near the same quantity of wrongdoing.

    Nor with the specificity in federal statutes known broken by Hillary, the ones implied broken and inspired by Obama and whatever nom de plume he used in communicating illegally with Hillary through her criminal server.

    And I dont think any of the that you mentioned could ever be correctly blamed for an ultimate in the egregious, for not even lifting a finger, much less moving heaven and earth, to rescue fellow Americans like those two blowhards. Hell, and they were the ones that helped created the dangerous atmosphere that they thereupon sent out our ambassador and 3 fellows into harms way to.

    Scale is different at minimum.
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    Re: Did Obama admin issue a “stand down” order on Russian meddling?

    From denying there was any to admitting there was but blaming Obama.

    Oy vey...

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    Re: Did Obama admin issue a “stand down” order on Russian meddling?

    I don’t know if we are going to find out because they are to stupid to figure that there’s nothing ! Hey here’s a good idea whenever the democrats decide to come together and, confirm Mike Poempo they should question him and, actually get his side of what he saw on election night!


    Can’t censor this Patriot

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    Re: Did Obama admin issue a “stand down” order on Russian meddling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    No, not really.. Not with near the same quantity of wrongdoing.

    Nor with the specificity in federal statutes known broken by Hillary, the ones implied broken and inspired by Obama and whatever nom de plume he used in communicating illegally with Hillary through her criminal server.

    And I dont think any of the that you mentioned could ever be correctly blamed for an ultimate in the egregious, for not even lifting a finger, much less moving heaven and earth, to rescue fellow Americans like those two blowhards. Hell, and they were the ones that helped created the dangerous atmosphere that they thereupon sent out our ambassador and 3 fellows into harms way to.

    Scale is different at minimum.
    I forgot today's conservative theory: whatever bad happens, it has to be Obama's fault. If it isn't his, it obviously is Hillary's. And Carter was personally responsible for the hostage taking in Iran, FDR for Social Security running out of money soon, etc. Unlike the Reagan adminstration's suggestion that the four US religious women had it coming in El Salvador, his support of Guatemala's dictator, recently sentenced to decades in jail by its democratic government, or Trump's praise of dictators who murder thousands, his suggestion that war crimes are the way to go in dealing with terrorism, and, of course, his appointing of a torturer to head the CIA. It's all so simple. Sorry I missed it.
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    Re: Did Obama admin issue a “stand down” order on Russian meddling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nickyjo View Post
    I forgot today's conservative theory: whatever bad happens, it has to be Obama's fault. If it isn't his, it obviously is Hillary's. And Carter was personally responsible for the hostage taking in Iran, FDR for Social Security running out of money soon, etc. Unlike the Reagan adminstration's suggestion that the four US religious women had it coming in El Salvador, his support of Guatemala's dictator, recently sentenced to decades in jail by its democratic government, or Trump's praise of dictators who murder thousands, his suggestion that war crimes are the way to go in dealing with terrorism, and, of course, his appointing of a torturer to head the CIA. It's all so simple. Sorry I missed it.
    They went after Nixon, rightfully, they went after those in the Reagan admin that, while I agree broke the law, pretty shady that Boland amendment sentiment, they went after BJ, rightfully, went after GW...sure as hell are going hard for Trump...why you think your folks, whom we have DEAD TO RIGHTS already, should be given a pass? Absolutely absurd.

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    Re: Did Obama admin issue a “stand down” order on Russian meddling?

    The short answer is yes Obama did issue a stand down order. But to say that alone is of course not the whole story. The administration tried reaching out to state voting districts and offered assistence to shore up their voting security, but was largely refused by republican states who suspected the Obama adminstration of dubious motives. At that point it was decided that Obama would issue a warning to Putin himself which Obama did and for a while it seemed that the warning worked. But as history tells us in the final outcome we were hacked. So Obama expell 35 Russian Diplomats and seized two Russian compounds that was located on U.S. soil.

    Was this effective in preventing the attack? No. But the reprisals was a response and a clear consequense for the attack. But from the very first chance that Trump had, he sought to remove those reprisals. Causing allarm in the National security community and forcing the senate and congress to pass sanctions against Russia with over whelming veto prrof majorities in both houses, which also blocked Trump from removing those sanctions. Yet even with this, Trump didn't implement those sanctions until after the attempted assassinatiion attempt in England.

    So Obama failed in twarting an attack for polical reasons largely extenal to himself. But he did retalliate. Then Trump seeks to remove the retalliatory measures and even fails to take amy retalliatory measures of his own and blocks the measures voted on by members of both houses and his own party. Oh ya! I'm really going out of my way to protect that "Black Jesus" aren't I?

    Our Electrical infrastructure has been attacked and your talking about "Black Jesus" Way to go Mr RED WHITE AND BLUE.

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    Re: Did Obama admin issue a “stand down” order on Russian meddling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    They went after Nixon, rightfully, they went after those in the Reagan admin that, while I agree broke the law, pretty shady that Boland amendment sentiment, they went after BJ, rightfully, went after GW...sure as hell are going hard for Trump...why you think your folks, whom we have DEAD TO RIGHTS already, should be given a pass? Absolutely absurd.

    Put this in the best DDeeeePP Sebastian Gorka baritone, "Thats simply Laaaff abull."

    Deys goin down, haaawd, reel haaawd.
    Please explain to me what Obama will be charged with and by whom. I know of no such charges pending. Ditto Hillary.

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