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California has worst 'quality of life' in US, study says

Conservative said:
And based upon your responses you have zero credibility to judge any thread.
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Your op has been thoroughly destroyed, in case you missed it.
 
calamity said:
Your op has been thoroughly destroyed, in case you missed it.
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Therein lies the problem with the left, they never can admit when wrong. The OP wasn't destroyed by the left but it was abandoned which always happens when they are proven wrong. Census Bureau doesn't lie and the left when rebuked always runs only to come back on another thread with the same lies and distortions. That raises the question I never get an answer to, what is it about liberalism that creates this kind of passion and loyalty? Are these people being paid to post?
 
Conservative said:
Therein lies the problem with the left, they never can admit when wrong. The OP wasn't destroyed by the left but it was abandoned which always happens when they are proven wrong. Census Bureau doesn't lie and the left when rebuked always runs only to come back on another thread with the same lies and distortions. That raises the question I never get an answer to, what is it about liberalism that creates this kind of passion and loyalty? Are these people being paid to post?
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When fail comes knocking, whine about "the left."
 
calamity said:
When fail comes knocking, whine about "the left."
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No whining just stating facts, like all leftists you cannot explain how California can have the top economy in the country yet have among the highest cost of living and of course the highest number in poverty and homelessness with the gap between the rich and poor being the biggest in the nation. Leftists cannot reconcile that reality so they run when challenged continuing to believe in their failed ideology.
 
Conservative said:
No whining just stating facts, like all leftists you cannot explain how California can have the top economy in the country yet have among the highest cost of living and of course the highest number in poverty and homelessness with the gap between the rich and poor being the biggest in the nation. Leftists cannot reconcile that reality so they run when challenged continuing to believe in their failed ideology.
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And you haven't addressed how Texas can have the 2nd largest economy in the country and rank 46th in quality of life in YOUR link. Proving Texas, Republicans and their Conservatism is a failed ideology,
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
And you haven't addressed how Texas can have the 2nd largest economy in the country and rank 46th in quality of life in YOUR link. Proving Texas, Republicans and their Conservatism is a failed ideology,
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Personal choice by the people of the state who choose not to spend in in the name of compassion vs. having a bigger central govt. providing and creating dependence. Freedom in this state of choice, Californians no longer have that choice as they are too dependent on the govt. of the state to provide for them. TX spends less than half of what California spends on social programs
 
Conservative said:
Personal choice by the people of the state who choose not to spend in in the name of compassion vs. having a bigger central govt. providing and creating dependence. Freedom in this state of choice, Californians no longer have that choice as they are too dependent on the govt. of the state to provide for them. TX spends less than half of what California spends on social programs
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Texas with the 2nd largest economy in the country yet is ranked 46th in this 'quality of life' category you love to use when discussing California. So even though Texas's 'quality if life' for its citizens is just as bad as California's your argument is Texas spends less then 1/2 social programs as Cali.and you see that as a PLUS? My God.

How did our society produce people like you?
 
I Re: California has worst 'quality of life' in US, study says

calamity said:
Dude, people are dying to move to California, especially So Cal. 72 degrees and sunny, over 300 days a year.

No one is tripping over themselves to move to Jackson ****ing Mississippi. :roll:
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I understand Cuba, Haiti, and even Venezuela have nicer weather than California.

I frankly don't see the benefit of having no rain for 9 months out of the year, the cities become as grimy and dried up as the politicians who rule them.

 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
Texas with the 2nd largest economy in the country yet is ranked 46th in this 'quality of life' category you love to use when discussing California. So even though Texas's 'quality if life' for its citizens is just as bad as California's your argument is Texas spends less then 1/2 social programs as Cali.and you see that as a PLUS? My God.

How did our society produce people like you?
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Again, read what I posted in 582 which you want to ignore. Spending in the name of compassion which the left promotes generated the results of California which you cannot explain. Society produced people like me when my parents taught me personal responsibility which is lost among the left. I live in TX, where do you live?? You seem to be an expert but more likely a legend in your own mind where you believe it is the government's responsibility to provide for your own welfare. stunning ignorance on the part of people who believe in Federal and state social spending vs personal responsibility
 
Conservative said:
Feel free to call the Census Bureau and tell them their data is wrong and you are right

https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publications/2016/demo/p60-258.pdf
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I'm not debating with the Census Bureau. I'm debating with you. And this is the first time you've posted any actual data. I only had to ask-what?-three times? Four?

Conservative said:
All that spending in the name of compassion generating these kind of results??
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According to your own source, without that spending, it would be rather worse. What you have not done is shown that liberal policies are the causes of the problem. Another reasonable interpretation is that this is an inevitable result of capitalism in large populations.

Conservative said:
Wow, liberalism on full display as are people who cannot admit when wrong
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What claim of mine is incorrect?
 
Conservative said:
So someone making $15 in California earns what per year? Does that put them out of poverty in California?
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Yet, they are poor, just one step up from poverty. But, being poor is only relative. It really is an Individual problem not an Institution problem, if one is only and merely, poor.
 
ashurbanipal said:
I'm not debating with the Census Bureau. I'm debating with you. And this is the first time you've posted any actual data. I only had to ask-what?-three times? Four?



According to your own source, without that spending, it would be rather worse. What you have not done is shown that liberal policies are the causes of the problem. Another reasonable interpretation is that this is an inevitable result of capitalism in large populations.



What claim of mine is incorrect?
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OMG, things would have been worse without all that spending? That shows exactly the liberal beliefs that spending in the name of compassion generating these kinds of results is worth it?? You are debating Bureau of Labor Statistics data and show what low expectations you have. There is absolutely no justification for California having among the highest axes in the nation and these results. You seem to believe that TX and other states numbers are to be compared against California?? No, California spends more than Double TX on social programs and still has worse results
 
danielpalos said:
It is most definitely, a fine, capital start under Any form of Capitalism.
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No it makes you feel good but does nothing to reduce the poverty as costs go up and $15 per hour generates how much for the individual? Is that above or below the poverty level
 
Conservative said:
No it makes you feel good but does nothing to reduce the poverty as costs go up and $15 per hour generates how much for the individual? Is that above or below the poverty level
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Doesn't matter, as long as it beats the cost of social services; currently around fourteen an hour.

and, the inflation canard is getting worn out, even for propaganda and rhetoric.
 
danielpalos said:
Doesn't matter, as long as it beats the cost of social services; currently around fourteen an hour.

and, the inflation canard is getting worn out, even for propaganda and rhetoric.
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Your liberal compassion is showing as is your ignorance of economics. you don't think raising the minimum wage isn't going to increase costs for everything including social services?
 
Conservative said:
Your liberal compassion is showing as is your ignorance of economics. you don't think raising the minimum wage isn't going to increase costs for everything including social services?
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Inflation happens anyway. Increasing wages increases motivation for employment.

It is simply right wing Red Herrings, to have Any insecurities regarding inflation.
 
danielpalos said:
Inflation happens anyway. Increasing wages increases motivation for employment.

It is simply right wing Red Herrings, to have Any insecurities regarding inflation.
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Got it, so when you have increased wages, increased costs and inflation a $15 per hour makes sense to you? How do those in poverty and homeless benefit with higher costs and inflation? Looks to me like zero net gain thus no job movement just rewarding existing people and driving up costs
 
danielpalos said:
Inflation happens anyway. Increasing wages increases motivation for employment.

It is simply right wing Red Herrings, to have Any insecurities regarding inflation.
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So does limiting the "safety net" to no more than a single, MW full-time job provides.

Indexing the federal MW to CPI inflation makes sense - raising it more than that causes inflation.
 
Conservative said:
Got it, so when you have increased wages, increased costs and inflation a $15 per hour makes sense to you? How do those in poverty and homeless benefit with higher costs and inflation? Looks to me like zero net gain thus no job movement just rewarding existing people and driving up costs
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Only the right wing has nothing but special pleading in a vacuum. Cost of living was the indicated issue in the study in that other thread. Increasing the minimum wage solves that problem in a market friendly manner.

We really don't care if we lose low wage jobs.
 
danielpalos said:
Only the right wing has nothing but special pleading in a vacuum. Cost of living was the indicated issue in the study in that other thread. Increasing the minimum wage solves that problem in a market friendly manner.

We really don't care if we lose low wage jobs.
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You are a perfect example of an education system that doesn't teach kids even basic economics. Increasing the minimum wage drives up costs which includes all those social programs you want to implement, the net gain is zero.

of course you don't care about losing low wage jobs as that is true liberal compassion
 
danielpalos said:
Unemployment compensation at fourteen dollars an hour.
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OK, that is $14,560 ($560/week) for (up to) 26 weeks assuming that the person was laid off due to lack of work, was full-time, is actively seeking employment and cannot find another job - then what?
 
In typical idiotic, right wing conservative fashion, here they are trying to argue against democrat policies by citing quality of life, yet, it doesn't matter that the highest quality of life is occurs in European countries that are more socialistic. Oh, then citing quality of life doesn't matter.

These people are never going to convince anybody other than other close minded, dishonest people
 
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