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California has worst 'quality of life' in US, study says

ashurbanipal said:
All correct. I made much the same reply, and Conservative started going on about how I was thinking with my "heart and not my head." And then he posted some op-ed pieces.
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More rightwing propaganda?? Interesting how all the articles about California GDP growth and financial success never gets to the homeless and those below the poverty level. How do you explain that? When you have 1.6 plus million people below the poverty level it doesn't appear that the people are truly benefiting from all this social spending. Keep penalizing small businesses in your state

By the way California hasn't had a Republican Senate since 1975

the issue in this thread is California ranking at the bottom in quality of life and the data on homelessness comes from the Census bureau hardly a right wing source. You can post all the economic data you want showing just how great California is for the HAVES but not the HAVE NOTS which I thought the liberals truly wanted to help but all you do is give lip service and show your true liberal compassion

Tammy Bruce: California chaos -- Unchallenged liberalism leaves homelessness, drug abuse, garbage in its wake | Fox News
 
Conservative said:
Look, I won't waste my time reading your novel because you totally ignored the California issue completely and the money that they spend on social programs for the results generated. You people show your true compassion because results don't matter to you as long as you feel good about the spending. where would these states be if they spent what California spends on social programs as I never get a response to that question? Why would anyone even try to compare California to other states when it is one of the top economies in the world generating these kind of results for the actual people in California? Cherry picked information? Why because it refutes the left's belief that if you throw money at the problem is solves the problem?? California proves that isn't the case as does human behavior as there is no incentive to change vs being just dependent. Keep working to implement California type politics all over this country showing total arrogance to the people who live in those states as they CHOOSE to live there, paying the lower cost of living as they could implement California politics any time they want.

Can't wait for the minimum wage increase to get more of their businesses moving to TX thus increasing state tax revenue through consumers
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I'm not sure how you can say I ignored what I wrote a "novel" (your word) on. The rest is just your amateur attempt at psychoanalysis, when I haven't said anything that should allow you to draw the conclusions you do.
 
ashurbanipal said:
I'm not sure how you can say I ignored what I wrote a "novel" (your word) on. The rest is just your amateur attempt at psychoanalysis, when I haven't said anything that should allow you to draw the conclusions you do.
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Very simple you never addressed leading the nation in homeless and those in poverty or the massive debt the state has. You write a lot of words none of which help any of those have nots benefit from that so called booming California economy. the difference between the HAVES and HAVE NOTS is among the greatest in the country showing one more time that spending in the name of compassion creates an entitlement mentality and doesn't change human behavior but does generate dependence and high debt.

States that don't spend what California spends have a choice, Californians dependent have no choice, they are dependent and locked in
 
Conservative said:
right as it is always the messenger not the message that resonates with people like you. Where would these states be if they spent what California spends on social engineering programs? How do you reconcile Californians ranking with the cost of living, taxes, debt and actual results? Obviously you don't because results don't matter as long as you feel good about the spending. The gap between the rich and the poo in California is among the greatest in the nation and your reaction to actual results show that true liberal compasion
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No. He correctly pointed out that you misinterpreted your own link and the thread is a complete fail.
 
calamity said:
No. He correctly pointed out that you misinterpreted your own link and the thread is a complete fail.
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LOL, you leftists are all the same, you don't like the data so you divert from it. Pretty simple question how do you reconcile leading the nation in poverty and homelessness with the booming economy, high taxes, social engineering? Nothing to interpret, the Census data speaks for itself as does the money being spent in California on social programs generating these kind of results, LAST IN THE NATION
 
Conservative said:
LOL, high paid workers drive up costs and increase the cost of living in your state which is already among the highest in the nation. That isn't propaganda that is reality. Noticed you continue to run from the actual California results for homelessness and poverty. Yep, keep raising salaries for small businesses as no big business in California pays less than the wage you want implemented and yet the problem continues. You have no clue as to what creates the cost of the items you buy. Drive up wages and watch what happens
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Inflation happens anyway. And, social services cost around fourteen dollars an hour, regardless. Higher paid labor can better afford to go to work.
 
danielpalos said:
Inflation happens anyway. And, social services cost around fourteen dollars an hour, regardless. Higher paid labor can better afford to go to work.
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Still didn't answer the question who pays the cost of those wages and what does that increase do to already the highest cost of living in the nation? The people of TX really appreciate very much the state of California sending us new business owners.
 
Conservative said:
Still didn't answer the question who pays the cost of those wages and what does that increase do to already the highest cost of living in the nation? The people of TX really appreciate very much the state of California sending us new business owners.
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We really don't care if we lose low wage jobs.
 
Conservative said:
Very simple you never addressed leading the nation in homeless and those in poverty or the massive debt the state has.
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I addressed it by asking you for some data...which you did not provide (you posted some op-ed pieces). I cannot address your claims without understanding why you make them.

Conservative said:
Very You write a lot of words
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I suppose "a lot" is relative to context, but seriously, I doubt I've written more than 2,000 words in this thread. It's a testament to the lack of brainpower and education in this country that anyone would consider that a lot of words to deal with the economy and living conditions of the most populous state in the union and one of the world's largest economies.

Conservative said:
Very none of which help any of those have nots
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Neither do yours.

Conservative said:
(premise) the difference between the HAVES and HAVE NOTS is among the greatest in the country showing one more time that (conclusion) spending in the name of compassion creates an entitlement mentality and doesn't change human behavior but does generate dependence and high debt.
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I've put in "premise' and "conclusion" in the argument you've posted. How does the conclusion follow from the premise? Doesn't seem to follow as far as I can tell.
 
shurbanipal;1068261130]I addressed it by asking you for some data...which you did not provide (you posted some op-ed pieces). I cannot address your claims without understanding why you make them.
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Gave you the source, you don't like it, tough, waste of time posting links to you and others just like you

I suppose "a lot" is relative to context, but seriously, I doubt I've written more than 2,000 words in this thread. It's a testament to the lack of brainpower and education in this country that anyone would consider that a lot of words to deal with the economy and living conditions of the most populous state in the union and one of the world's largest economies.
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Providing me links to GDP and economic activity in your state serves no purpose as the money isn't getting to those in poverty and homeless as the gap between rich and poor keeps getting wider. When you have one of the highest cost of living states in the nation along with among the highest taxes in the nation creating the highest number of homeless and the highest in poverty that isn't an advertisement for liberalism



Neither do yours.
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Which is why TX now has 52 of the Top Fortune 500 companies in the state and more businesses moving here all the time?? You have zero credibility on this issue and cannot admit when wrong


I've put in "premise' and "conclusion" in the argument you've posted. How does the conclusion follow from the premise? Doesn't seem to follow as far as I can tell.
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Nothing you have posted solves the homeless and poverty problems in California, the disconnect is all that money spent in the name of compassion that puts California on the bottom of the quality of life list. Liberals all along have claimed that the states you listed are terrible but NONE spend what California spends on social programs. California is a perfect example of liberal waste, fraud, and abuse
 
ashurbanipal said:
I addressed it by asking you for some data...which you did not provide (you posted some op-ed pieces). I cannot address your claims without understanding why you make them.



I suppose "a lot" is relative to context, but seriously, I doubt I've written more than 2,000 words in this thread. It's a testament to the lack of brainpower and education in this country that anyone would consider that a lot of words to deal with the economy and living conditions of the most populous state in the union and one of the world's largest economies.



Neither do yours.



I've put in "premise' and "conclusion" in the argument you've posted. How does the conclusion follow from the premise? Doesn't seem to follow as far as I can tell.
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Feel free to call the Census Bureau and tell them their data is wrong and you are right

https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publications/2016/demo/p60-258.pdf

All that spending in the name of compassion generating these kind of results?? Wow, liberalism on full display as are people who cannot admit when wrong
 
danielpalos said:
that only works in a vacuum of special pleading.

We are trying to fill these jobs:

U.S. has record 6 million job openings, even as 6.8 million Americans are looking for jobs - Jun. 6, 2017
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What exactly does that have to do with the high poverty and high homelessness in a state that has among the highest taxes and highest cost of living? You are right however people will leave California to take those jobs in others states, buy products in those states and pay taxes in those states. Thank you California for the new businesses and new taxpayers
 
IDK, I found La Jolla, Del Mar, Malibu, and Santa Barbara to be to my liking...
 
Conservative said:
What exactly does that have to do with the high poverty and high homelessness in a state that has among the highest taxes and highest cost of living? You are right however people will leave California to take those jobs in others states, buy products in those states and pay taxes in those states. Thank you California for the new businesses and new taxpayers
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A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage.
 
calamity said:
Dude, people are dying to move to California, especially So Cal. 72 degrees and sunny, over 300 days a year.

No one is tripping over themselves to move to Jackson ****ing Mississippi. :roll:
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So let's get as many libruls to move to the rogue state of California as possible. That will help make some blue states elsewhere red.
 
ObamacareFail said:
So let's get as many libruls to move to the rogue state of California as possible. That will help make some blue states elsewhere red.
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...and dumber, poorer, sicker and off to an early grave.
 
Conservative said:
LOL, you leftists are all the same, you don't like the data so you divert from it. Pretty simple question how do you reconcile leading the nation in poverty and homelessness with the booming economy, high taxes, social engineering? Nothing to interpret, the Census data speaks for itself as does the money being spent in California on social programs generating these kind of results, LAST IN THE NATION
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The only people here ignoring data are the Right Wingers. Fact is--and this is indisputable---California is an economic powerhouse, with longer than average life expectancies, higher personal income and superior educational opportunities.

But, I'm sure the Right will yammer on about freedumb.
 
calamity said:
The only people here ignoring data are the Right Wingers. Fact is that California is an economic powerhouse, with longer than average life expectancies, higher personal income and superior educational opportunities.

But, I'm sure the Right will yammer on about freedumb.
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There you go again totally ignoring the OP, how do you reconcile being an economic powerhouse and leading the nation in poverty, homeless and being at the bottom in terms of quality of life. You can't thus you divert.
 
Conservative said:
There you go again totally ignoring the OP, how do you reconcile being an economic powerhouse and leading the nation in poverty, homeless and being at the bottom in terms of quality of life. You can't thus you divert.
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The op is a fail, as was proven above by that dude you ignored.
 
calamity said:
The op is a fail, as was proven above by that dude you ignored.
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No sorry, call the Census bureau and tell them they are wrong and you are righr

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Conservative said:
No sorry, call the Census bureau and tell them they are wrong and you are righr

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Better yet, I'll call your thread a failure.
 
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