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Liberal summit? Name one.

I am not a Democrat and I am not for the democrats but my objective side thinks that you are thinking logically. All of the items you listed are totally what the Democrats need to do but they can't even agree that they need to get together and have an event like CPAC. Good post. My gut says it would be more of a fight than a discussion but sometimes that is what an organization needs to clear the air and get back on track.

We are still out there NONOBADDOG, there are still liberals who think "country over party", and who will work with conservatives when we have common ground and common goals, and that is not as rare as some would have you think.

What I cannot abide is a party that would rather acquiesce to big donor money needs and demands when those needs and demands run counter to what the people want. Both major parties have been retooled and rebooted several times in the 20th and 21st century.
My guess says it is time for the Democrats to be rebooted and reorganized. We have precious little time to do it.
And we do not have the generational length timeframe required to stand up an entirely new party to knock the Democrats down either.
 
Why isn't there a liberal equivalent to CPAC or Values Voter Summit?
Every year, conservatives get together to hash out and formulate conservative thought and ideology, at both
CPAC and the Values Voter Summit.
In searching for something of similar size and influence on the liberal side, I'm afraid I've come up empty.

That's pretty hard for this writer to digest.

Because we don't need to get together, slapping each other on the backs as we congratulate ourselves on being masters of the universe.

Let 'em have it, anyway. The hookers can use the extra money when the CPAC comes into town.

I will say this - we do need to get our **** together. I agree that we can't ride on the anti-Trump train and expect to have a blow-out in November. We. Need. To. Get. Our. ****. Together.

I will be the first to admit that we as a party need cohesion.
 
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Because we don't need to get together, slapping each other on the backs as we congratulate ourselves on being masters of the universe.

Let 'em have it, anyway. The hookers can use the extra money when the CPAC comes into town.

Uhhhh, we're three time losers.

2010
2014
2016

Yeah, I think a meetup might be a pretty good idea. We need focus and we need to teach each other how not to let good be the enemy of perfect, which has been a problem for too many liberals these last few years.
As the saying goes, conservatives only need one reason to vote for their candidate, whereas liberals only need one reason to NOT vote for theirs.
 
Uhhhh, we're three time losers.

2010
2014
2016

Yeah, I think a meetup might be a pretty good idea. We need focus and we need to teach each other how not to let good be the enemy of perfect, which has been a problem for too many liberals these last few years.
As the saying goes, conservatives only need one reason to vote for their candidate, whereas liberals only need one reason to NOT vote for theirs.

I added more to my post. I don't think we need feel good conventions like the right does, but even grass roots groups would help us get our **** together.
 
I added more to my post. I don't think we need feel good conventions like the right does, but even grass roots groups would help us get our **** together.

Hence the reason why we need a lot more than just NetRoots Nation, which seems to always be in the middle of Bum Fcuck Egypt anyway.
 
Why isn't there a liberal equivalent to CPAC or Values Voter Summit?
Every year, conservatives get together to hash out and formulate conservative thought and ideology, at both
CPAC and the Values Voter Summit.
In searching for something of similar size and influence on the liberal side, I'm afraid I've come up empty.

That's pretty hard for this writer to digest.

No, conservatives get together every year to pontificate. If you disagree, what new ideas have conservatives hashed out? Conservatives policy is essentially tax-cuts -- and specifically tax-cuts on the rich with a heavy dose of deregulation that serves corporate interests. These ideas have been conservative orthodoxy for decades. Thus, liberals don't need to get together every year and pledge their support for higher taxes on the rich to pay for a social safety net; subsidies for college education; environmental regulation; renewable energy, etc.
 
I never heard of CPAC before last year. The Democrats are in a world of hurt. By this time someone should be breaking out of the pack. Our political system is on shaky ground. Best we can do is out of date, well off white people. They have no clue what the rank and file citizens are going through. We get the government we deserve......
 
Why isn't there a liberal equivalent to CPAC or Values Voter Summit?
Every year, conservatives get together to hash out and formulate conservative thought and ideology, at both
CPAC and the Values Voter Summit.
In searching for something of similar size and influence on the liberal side, I'm afraid I've come up empty.

That's pretty hard for this writer to digest.

The People's Summit
. Is it the same size? I have no idea, but the notion that the Right is unified is a pretty tone deaf argument to make right now. I mean, I guess all 34% of you are unified.

Also, the Democratic party works differently than the Republican party. The Republican party gets all of their money over the year from rich assholes, and then once a year all of the rich assholes and politicians and media pundits get together so the Republican politicians and media pundits can get their annual marching orders. With the advent of the alt-Right, the splintering of the Koch brother's voter base, the in-fighting between the Mercer's and the Koch's, etc, it's lead to a lot more tumultuous times for Republicans.
 
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Why isn't there a liberal equivalent to CPAC or Values Voter Summit?
Every year, conservatives get together to hash out and formulate conservative thought and ideology, at both
CPAC and the Values Voter Summit.
In searching for something of similar size and influence on the liberal side, I'm afraid I've come up empty.

That's pretty hard for this writer to digest.

It's money. The right has lots of it and pump it into their agenda through these front line legislative groups like ALEC and George Mason University.
 
It's money. The right has lots of it and pump it into their agenda through these front line legislative groups like ALEC and George Mason University.

Yes, that seems to escape a lot of people's thoughts, the fact that the Right has MUCH more access to large revenue streams, and quicker access, too. When there is talk of a "deep state" and a shadow government, it is NOT the Left as they project, it is themselves, and their most favored clientele.
 
Yes, that seems to escape a lot of people's thoughts, the fact that the Right has MUCH more access to large revenue streams, and quicker access, too. When there is talk of a "deep state" and a shadow government, it is NOT the Left as they project, it is themselves, and their most favored clientele.

But - what the right is not counting on is the fact that human history always demonstrates that numbers are far stronger than money.
 
Why isn't there a liberal equivalent to CPAC or Values Voter Summit?
Every year, conservatives get together to hash out and formulate conservative thought and ideology, at both
CPAC and the Values Voter Summit.
In searching for something of similar size and influence on the liberal side, I'm afraid I've come up empty.

That's pretty hard for this writer to digest.

That's because of the basic differences between the general psychologies of conservatives and liberals, probably in that conservatives, being more prone to more readily discern threats and feel fear, are more likely to organize in order to address the perceived threats.
 
Why isn't there a liberal equivalent to CPAC or Values Voter Summit?
Every year, conservatives get together to hash out and formulate conservative thought and ideology, at both
CPAC and the Values Voter Summit.
In searching for something of similar size and influence on the liberal side, I'm afraid I've come up empty.

That's pretty hard for this writer to digest.

What exactly do they hash out on an annual basis ? The platform has been like it is since 1980. Seems to be there is far more than a platform being nailed at these GOP get togethers.

https://www.metroweekly.com/2017/02/hrc-calls-closeted-republicans-cpac-grindr/

Now to my point. Yes the Dems should have a yearly conference as there platform is fluid, while the GOP's is stuck circa 1980.

And what is it with those closeted GOP members and convention extracurricular activities. Oh well, with the Fornicator in Chief as the GOP leader you can now take the "moral" out of majority.
 
What exactly do they hash out on an annual basis ? The platform has been like it is since 1980. Seems to be there is far more than a platform being nailed at these GOP get togethers.

https://www.metroweekly.com/2017/02/hrc-calls-closeted-republicans-cpac-grindr/

Now to my point. Yes the Dems should have a yearly conference as there platform is fluid, while the GOP's is stuck circa 1980.

And what is it with those closeted GOP members and convention extracurricular activities. Oh well, with the Fornicator in Chief as the GOP leader you can now take the "moral" out of majority.


Regarding:
"The platform has been like it is since 1980."
Everything you say is essentially correct but with one minor TWEAK:
Today? Now? In 2018?
This is weaponized, it is aerosol, it is viral, it has metastasized and it's epidemic.
 
HONEST QUESTION:

How many of you out there think that the Right Wing platform is essentially UNCHANGED from 1980, either IN content, or INTENSITY?
Please specify one or both, and if you'd be so kind...WHY.
 
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