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COS John Kelly

iguanaman said:
Kelly needs to go too. He knew that Porter was not getting security clearance since November. It is inexcusable. The lack of proper security clearances in the Whithouse is unprecedented and extremely dangerous.
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We dont know what you claim we know.
 
Jack Hays said:
Many decades of watching 'em come and watching 'em go. Some appointees serve an entire term without ever getting their clearances finalized.
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Example? Someone at the POTUS' side.
 
Jack Hays said:
It's about normal.
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LOL It is not normal for those with only interim clearance to handle top secret information. Name me one Administration that had a Staff Secretary without security clearance after a year. I dare you.
 
Rexedgar said:
Gen. Kelly is truly in a no way out wicket. If he knew, as he should when he got the CoS job, that's not good. If he didn't know that's not so good either. POTUS made no mention of the accusers, instead sticking with Porter's insistence that he was innocent. This is 'the gang that couldn't shoot straight.'
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Indeed and Trump keeps shooting himself in the bone spurs. The spurs have been floating upward recently.

Here meanwhile I cheerfully share the photo in which someone airbrushed the heavenly halo Kelly wears 24/7....


Trump's Guardian Angel

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Trump Smug Sycophant Syndrome.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
We dont know what you claim we know.
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White House chief of staff John Kelly was told several weeks ago that the FBI would recommend denying full security clearances to multiple White House aides who had been working in the West Wing on interim security clearances.

Those aides, according to a senior administration official, included former White House staff secretary Rob Porter, who left the White House on Thursday after reports that he physically and verbally abused his two ex-wives.
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https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/08/john-kelly-rob-porter-security-clearance-400987
 
iguanaman said:
Meanwhile Porter was handing top secret documents daily violating the law.
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There was no law violated..you seriously should look into an information sourcing upgrade:

Here is another source for the Politico claim:

I’m a lawyer specializing in security clearance cases. Hillary Clinton got off easy
Security clearances are ultimately governed by presidential executive order, which means that a president can decide who does and doesn’t get a security clearance, and can change the rules.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...d269f8719b1_story.html?utm_term=.ee75247f2583


More than likely Kelly had kicked the issue up the the MAN IN CHARGE, and was waiting for guidance, you should be cheering Trump for cutting this guy lose rather than giving him and Kelly ****.
 
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Hawkeye10 said:
The process was working, it had not concluded.
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Porter must have listed Putin as a reference.

That'll muck things up for WH given FBI does the checking.

So Trump and Kelly have been mucking up FBI. Kelly kept stiff arming FBI to protect Porter.
 
Tangmo said:
Porter must have listed Putin as a reference.

That'll muck things up for WH given FBI does the checking.

So Trump and Kelly have been mucking up FBI. Kelly kept stiff arming FBI to protect Porter.
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Sour Grapes
 
Rexedgar said:
Example? Someone at the POTUS' side.
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iguanaman said:
LOL It is not normal for those with only interim clearance to handle top secret information. Name me one Administration that had a Staff Secretary without security clearance after a year. I dare you.
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It has happened routinely over the years. They are given provisional clearances as the background investigations proceed. The three most powerful words in the federal government are "The President wants . . . "
 
Jack Hays said:
It has happened routinely over the years. They are given provisional clearances as the background investigations proceed. The three most powerful words in the federal government are "The President wants . . . "
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Ya, and notice how wrong the so-called journalists get everything....almost like on purpose....either that or they are supremely dumb....which is possible.
 
NeverTrumpGOP said:
I think there's some hesitation to criticize Kelly because he's a general, but it's clear that Kelly is part of the problem in the WH. He is a key player in the immigration debacles, he has covered up allegations in the WH, and who knows what else. He has failed to hold Trump down on Twitter, and pumping Trump with positive news has clearly backfired.
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My opinion of Kelly drops a little more every week. I believe he shares some of Trump's worst views.

He's a lot smarter than donnie, which I used to think was good. Now I'm not so sure. Bannon was also much smarter. Trump is a tool to people like that, so it's good to know what they are thinking of using that tool for.
 
Jack Hays said:
It has happened routinely over the years. They are given provisional clearances as the background investigations proceed. The three most powerful words in the federal government are "The President wants . . . "
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Putin does have a lotta clout in Washington the past year plus, yes.

It musn't continue however and it wont.

We know already Trump gets his daily intelligence briefing in the Executive Coloring Book exclusive series.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
There was no law violated..you seriously should look into an information sourcing upgrade:

Here is another source for the Politico claim:

I’m a lawyer specializing in security clearance cases. Hillary Clinton got off easy

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...d269f8719b1_story.html?utm_term=.ee75247f2583


More than likely Kelly had kicked the issue up the the MAN IN CHARGE, and was waiting for guidance, you should be cheering Trump for cutting this guy lose rather than giving him and Kelly ****.
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Hawkeye10 said:
Sour Grapes
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Sore winner syndrome.

Trump won and Hillary lost. Accept the equation and get over it.

Ma and Pa Kettle are angry perpetually but others need not be like 'em.
 
Jack Hays said:
It has happened routinely over the years. They are given provisional clearances as the background investigations proceed. The three most powerful words in the federal government are "The President wants . . . "
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That's not really an example......
 
Tangmo said:
Sore winner syndrome.

Trump won and Hillary lost. Accept the equation and get over it.

Ma and Pa Kettle are angry perpetually but others need not be like 'em.
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Funny that you should say that given that Clinton Corp refuses to act like the losers that they are.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Funny that you should say that given that Clinton Corp refuses to act like the losers that they are.
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That reads like a bad line out of pulp fiction.

Kelly and Trump are two peas in the proverbial pod.

Putin is the peapicker.
 
Rexedgar said:
That's not really an example......
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Because there are none. What else can we expect from and Administration that picked a foreign agent for NSA director? They have no concept of national security and could care less about it.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Funny that you should say that given that Clinton Corp refuses to act like the losers that they are.
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Greetings, Hawkeye10. :2wave:

Perhaps this loss wasn't the one for them to get upset about? :shrug: Since I have read that she has said publically that she's in favor of a New World Order, aka One-World Government, and if that's true the Clinton Corp is far more likely to want to have a voice in that. Who knows.....
 
Tangmo said:
Putin does have a lotta clout in Washington the past year plus, yes.

It musn't continue however and it wont.

We know already Trump gets his daily intelligence briefing in the Executive Coloring Book exclusive series.
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Off point.
 
Rexedgar said:
That's not really an example......
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And that's because I'm not going to talk about specific other people's security clearances and background investigations. That's privileged information. I'm just telling you that many WH staffers have served for years with provisional clearances because their background investigations were not concluded.
 
polgara said:
Greetings, Hawkeye10. :2wave:

Perhaps this loss wasn't the one for them to get upset about? :shrug: Since I have read that she has said publically that she's in favor of a New World Order, aka One-World Government, and if that's true the Clinton Corp is far more likely to want to have a voice in that. Who knows.....
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HELLO FRIEND!

I am not sure what stage of grief they are currently on, in part because I dont have enough interest to launch an investigation. I am however very sad that those on the Left STILL cant process how bad Clinton Corp was for the nation and for the D party, on how they cant let go, though it is nice to see that the Clinton Chia Pet is selling at a step discount.

https://www.amazon.com/Chia-Hillary-Clinton-Freedom-Pottery/dp/B01G988ZRQ

As for global government you might have heard me say that it is coming, it has nothing to do with Like/Dont Like, we are going to end up with no other options. I will not live long enough to see it though, it will come after the Great Crash which will be a combination of global depression and a complete loss of faith in the global leaders, which I have on my calander for starting 2027 and probably lasting decades. There is a slight chance that nuclear catastrophe will come before that and will drive us to global government.
 
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