I found this video of Chuck Schumer commenting on the Republican-led government shutdown over the budget in 2013.
Note what he says at 2:30...
"We want to negotiate but without a gun to our head... We could do the same thing on immigration. We believe strongly on immigration reform. We could say we're shutting down the government. We're not gonna raise the debt ceiling until you pass immigration reform. It would be governmental chaos...the whole full faith and credit in the U.S. currency goes down the drain..."
He was talking about Republican opposition to Obamacare being tied to the spending bill, which the Democrats led by Schumer in the Senate claimed was tying a political issue to a spending bill.
Now he and the Democrats are doing exactly what he said would create the kind of "governmental chaos" he opposed back in 2013.
What happened to not negotiating with a gun to someone's head? Oh, yeah this is different somehow. :roll:
I can't wait to hear the progressive-left members of the Forum try to argue shutting down the government over DACA is different. Hard to do when Schumer made that very point and stated it would be "government chaos...the whole faith and credit in the U.S. currency goes down the drain." Meaning no one should do it, as spending bills and unrelated partisan political issues don't mix.
That's the problem with those we send to Washington. They are all hypocrites. the debt ceiling you mentioned. How about these senate votes. First under Bush.
Year..Democrats for..Democrats against..Republicans for..Republicans against
2002…….37………………….14………………31………………18
2003……..3…………………...45………………50………………..1
2004……..2……………………46……………....50………………..1
2006……..0……………………44………………52………………...3
Pay particularly attention to the years 2003, 2004 and 2006. In those three years only 5 Democrats voted to raise the debt ceiling, 135 senators voted against it.
Move on to the Obama presidency:
2009 ………59…………………0………………..1……………….40
2010…….....60…………………0………………..0……………….40
2012……….52…………………3………………..1………………..45
2013……….55………………….0……………….26……………….18
Again pay close attention to the years 2009, 2010 and 2012. During those three years on 2 Republican senators voted to raise the debt ceiling, 125 voted against. Strange how a party can either be for or against something depending on whether they hold the White House.
Government shutdowns, it the same thing. Adding Obamacare to the debt ceiling debate back in 2013 had them all in a tizzy. Every single Democrat thought raising the debt ceiling should be just that and nothing else. The republicans saw the debt ceiling as a tool for their political agenda which had nothing to do with the debt ceiling. Today, it is the republicans who think the budget process should be only about the budget and nothing else. Today it is the democrats who are using the budget process as a tool for their political agenda which like the debt ceiling crisis in 2013 has nothing to do with the budget.
Hypocrites one and all. both major political parties ought to be spanked and sent to their room without supper. Actually, since both parties love to play political games for very partisan reasons instead of taking care of the country, they need to be tossed out the window and put on the trash heap of history. They are a bunch of idiots and we all are idiots for sending them to Washington when all they care about is their political party, playing partisan games and not the country.
