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Jeff Flake is Running for President

Fishking said:
And he will fail, spectacularly. It's OK, though...the guy I like probably won't win either. I don't know if it would be a good deal for anyone to actually run and win against Trump in the primaries. I think the momentum is shifting too much the other way and no matter who wins are going to be looked at with Trump-colored glasses.
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Hell, your hero Rand Paul got his ass handed to him in the primaries by a Reality T.V. Star birther. He, nor his father, or anyone in that family for that matter will NEVER see the presidency.
 
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OpportunityCost said:
In what world is he a MODERATE?!?

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You people consider anyone who doesn't bow down to Trump, or adhere to some Trumpian right wing agenda as a "liberal". GOP voters like yourself are the last people who should be lecturing ANYONE on who a moderate is.

And the Dems don't need a moderate to defeat Trump. In fact, putting forth a moderate will do nothing but actually piss off a significant portion of their own base.
 
Puigb said:
Hell, your hero Rand Paul got his ass handed to him in the primaries by a Reality T.V. Star birther. He, nor his family, or anyone in that family for that matter will NEVER see the presidency.
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Oh...so that means I should support a dirtbag that has a better chance of winning, eh? Sorry, but I'll stick to principle, even if it doesn't always win.
 
Fishking said:
Oh...so that means I should support a dirtbag that has a better chance of winning, eh? Sorry, but I'll stick to principle, even if it doesn't always win.
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I won't argue other wise. There's a reason why I abstained from voting in the 2016 election (when it came to the choice of president). Didn't like any of the choices, including the third party candidates.
 
Puigb said:
You people consider anyone who doesn't bow down to Trump, or adhere to some Trumpian right wing agenda as a "liberal". GOP voters like yourself are the last people who should be lecturing ANYONE on who a moderate is.

And the Dems don't need a moderate to defeat Trump. In fact, putting forth a moderate will do nothing but actually piss off a significant portion of their own base.
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Nope, sorry, Booker isn't a moderate and he wasn't a moderate a long time before Trump was around, the two have nothing to do with each other.
 
Puigb said:
I won't argue other wise. There's a reason why I abstained from voting in the 2016 election (when it came to the choice of president). Didn't like any of the choices, including the third party candidates.
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Yeah, Johnson sucked for the LP. He just seemed like all he cares about is being a stoner. Still voted for him because I wanted another party to have a shot at getting enough votes as there are certain federal funding programs and such that a party qualifies for if they get like 5% or something. I can't remember. Maybe it was 15%.
 
OpportunityCost said:
Nope, sorry, Booker isn't a moderate and he wasn't a moderate a long time before Trump was around, the two have nothing to do with each other.
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And? Trump isn't a conservative, has never been a conservative, and never will be a conservative. Yet, millions of self proclaimed "conservatives" voted for him in the primaries, and general election. Whether Booker is a moderate or not is irrelevant, because the Dems don't have to nominate a moderate to defeat a vulnerable incumbent president like Donald Trump, assuming he's even president in 2020, or that he even runs again.
 
Puigb said:
And? Trump isn't a conservative, has never been a conservative, and never will be a conservative. Yet, millions of self proclaimed "conservatives" voted for him in the primaries, and general election. Whether Booker is a moderate or not is irrelevant, because the Dems don't have to nominate a moderate to defeat a vulnerable incumbent president like Donald Trump, assuming he's even president in 2020, or that he even runs again.
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Trump is a conservative, just a really unprofessional one.
 
Puigb said:
And? Trump isn't a conservative, has never been a conservative, and never will be a conservative. Yet, millions of self proclaimed "conservatives" voted for him in the primaries, and general election. Whether Booker is a moderate or not is irrelevant, because the Dems don't have to nominate a moderate to defeat a vulnerable incumbent president like Donald Trump, assuming he's even president in 2020, or that he even runs again.
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Booker doesn't support moderate policy. Trump supported Conservative policy and is trying to pass it. Make of that what you will.
 
OpportunityCost said:
Booker doesn't support moderate policy. Trump supported Conservative policy and is trying to pass it. Make of that what you will.
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the standard GOP definition for "moderate" is not how the rest of the world sees it.
 
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