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S***House vs. S***Hole

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If I had not been alive for the past year and witnessed the atrocities of language and truth committed by the Trump administration I would think somebody is playing a badly out of date April Fools joke on the nation this morning. It seems that the apologists for Trump are actually claiming that the actual word their idol said was "sh**house" rather than the reported "sh**hole" and thus the people who reported the hole version are lying and not to be trusted nor believed on anything they have said.

The first thing that comes to mind is that this is a distinction without a difference. The offending part of both terms was the first four letters identifying solid waste expelled by the body. Whether that waste is placed in a hole in the ground or in an outhouse - the insult is the same when applied to a nation or the people who reside there.

If it is reported that I called a woman who sells sex for money a "whore" and later I deny it and someone who was present says I actually called her a "hooker" it is the same damn thing.

This is getting to be nearly beyond belief and the Trump people are inventing new basements underneath the bottom of the barrel.

And this is what Trump believes is a winning issue for him?!?!?!? God save us all from this cult of personality built around a mentally ill narcissist who does not know the difference between his own delusional fantasies and the reality the rest of the nation lives in. And God save us from his apologists, his excusers, his sycophants and his toadies who enable him and keep this bizarre carnival going.
 
haymarket said:
If I had not been alive for the past year and witnessed the atrocities of language and truth committed by the Trump administration I would think somebody is playing a badly out of date April Fools joke on the nation this morning. It seems that the apologists for Trump are actually claiming that the actual word their idol said was "sh**house" rather than the reported "sh**hole" and thus the people who reported the hole version are lying and not to be trusted nor believed on anything they have said.

The first thing that comes to mind is that this is a distinction without a difference. The offending part of both terms was the first four letters identifying solid waste expelled by the body. Whether that waste is placed in a hole in the ground or in an outhouse - the insult is the same when applied to a nation or the people who reside there.

If it is reported that I called a woman who sells sex for money a "whore" and later I deny it and someone who was present says I actually called her a "hooker" it is the same damn thing.

This is getting to be nearly beyond belief and the Trump people are inventing new basements underneath the bottom of the barrel.

And this is what Trump believes is a winning issue for him?!?!?!? God save us all from this cult of personality built around a mentally ill narcissist who does not know the difference between his own delusional fantasies and the reality the rest of the nation lives in. And God save us from his apologists, his excusers, his sycophants and his toadies who enable him and keep this bizarre carnival going.
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Drama queen much?
 
WCH said:
Drama queen much?
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I would have to agree that Trump and his apologists are very much the drama queens in attempting to employ this totally lame defense.
 
WCH said:
Drama queen much?
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Trump just said that he is not a racist.If that's the truth he should stopsaying racist things .the proofof what I said is all over the news.
 
haymarket said:
I would have to agree that Trump and his apologists are very much the drama queens in attempting to employ this totally lame defense.
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Since there's no source, I'm going to conclude it was made up.
 
shrubnose said:
Trump just said that he is not a racist.If that's the truth he should stopsaying racist things .the proofof what I said is all over the news.
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What was racist? Not all ****hole countries are Black, Asian or Caucasian.

Suggesting so might be considered "racist"
 
WCH said:
Since there's no source, I'm going to conclude it was made up.
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Its been all over the news this morning. Here is but one example

Donald Trump said 's***house' and not 's***hole', claims White House source | The Independent

Donald Trump did not use the term “s***hole” to describe developing countries during a meeting on immigration, instead using the word “s***house”, it has been claimed.
The US President provoked a storm of outrage after reports emerged of comments he allegedly made in an Oval Office meeting last week while referring to migrants from Haiti, El Salvador and unspecified African nations.
He was accused of having said “we don’t need more Haitians”, and saying of the African countries: “Why are we having all these people from s***hole countries come here?”

According to The Washington Post, which first reported Mr Trump’s alleged remarks, the billionaire said he would be open to higher levels of migration from Asian countries and Norway.
The President has denied he had used the word “s***hole” but admitted being “tough” during the meeting.
Now claims have arisen suggesting he instead said “s***house”.
The Post‘s White House reporter, Josh Dawsey, said a White House official had told him there was a debate “internally” about the word used, with two senators – Republicans David Perdue and Tom Cotton – saying they had heard the latter.
And Rich Lowry, editor of the conservative National Review magazine, told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos: “My understanding from the meeting [is] he used a different but very closely related vulgarity.
“He said ‘s-house’ and not ‘s-hole’. That’s not going to make a difference to anyone. But the general remarks, yes, he said them.”
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WCH said:
That's about as credible as some posters here. Another comedian?
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go back and read - you jumped the gun before the post was complete.
 
haymarket said:
If I had not been alive for the past year and witnessed the atrocities of language and truth committed by the Trump administration I would think somebody is playing a badly out of date April Fools joke on the nation this morning. It seems that the apologists for Trump are actually claiming that the actual word their idol said was "sh**house" rather than the reported "sh**hole" and thus the people who reported the hole version are lying and not to be trusted nor believed on anything they have said.

The first thing that comes to mind is that this is a distinction without a difference. The offending part of both terms was the first four letters identifying solid waste expelled by the body. Whether that waste is placed in a hole in the ground or in an outhouse - the insult is the same when applied to a nation or the people who reside there.

If it is reported that I called a woman who sells sex for money a "whore" and later I deny it and someone who was present says I actually called her a "hooker" it is the same damn thing.

This is getting to be nearly beyond belief and the Trump people are inventing new basements underneath the bottom of the barrel.

And this is what Trump believes is a winning issue for him?!?!?!? God save us all from this cult of personality built around a mentally ill narcissist who does not know the difference between his own delusional fantasies and the reality the rest of the nation lives in. And God save us from his apologists, his excusers, his sycophants and his toadies who enable him and keep this bizarre carnival going.
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It's bizarre how leftists think people are fleeing from countries that aren't "****holes, or houses".
 
haymarket said:
If I had not been alive for the past year and witnessed the atrocities of language and truth committed by the Trump administration I would think somebody is playing a badly out of date April Fools joke on the nation this morning. It seems that the apologists for Trump are actually claiming that the actual word their idol said was "sh**house" rather than the reported "sh**hole" and thus the people who reported the hole version are lying and not to be trusted nor believed on anything they have said.

The first thing that comes to mind is that this is a distinction without a difference. The offending part of both terms was the first four letters identifying solid waste expelled by the body. Whether that waste is placed in a hole in the ground or in an outhouse - the insult is the same when applied to a nation or the people who reside there.

If it is reported that I called a woman who sells sex for money a "whore" and later I deny it and someone who was present says I actually called her a "hooker" it is the same damn thing.

This is getting to be nearly beyond belief and the Trump people are inventing new basements underneath the bottom of the barrel.

And this is what Trump believes is a winning issue for him
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?!?!?!? God save us all from this cult of personality built around a mentally ill narcissist who does not know the difference between his own delusional fantasies and the reality the rest of the nation lives in. And God save us from his apologists, his excusers, his sycophants and his toadies who enable him and keep this bizarre carnival going.
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If Trump isn't a racist he should stop saying racist things.Read the news,what is the first thing you see?

:lol:
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
Not enough apparently. What's your point? Are you saying people are emigrating because this country is a ****hole?
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My point is people move country for a variety of reasons beyond the idea that 'their own country is a ****hole'.
 
Nilly said:
My point is people move country for a variety of reasons beyond the idea that 'their own country is a ****hole'.
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But the people I quoted, thanked a guy who basically called this country s ****hole.
 
Nilly said:
One more time in English.
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oh wait, wrong thread. There's a calamity thread where he calls this country a ****hole and several posters thanked him.


Clarify your point to me. People move from countries that are ****holes, countries that are not ****holes, people tend to move away from them less.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
It's bizarre how leftists think people are fleeing from countries that aren't "****holes, or houses".
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That is not the issue here. The issue here is what Trump said and the efforts ofTrump apologists to excuse it by pretending he said something else which is actually the same thing.
 
haymarket said:
That is not the issue here. The issue here is what Trump said and the efforts ofTrump apologists to excuse it by pretending he said something else which is actually the same thing.
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Haiti is not a ****hole? You admitted you would move to norway and not haiti. Why is that?
 
haymarket said:
If I had not been alive for the past year and witnessed the atrocities of language and truth committed by the Trump administration I would think somebody is playing a badly out of date April Fools joke on the nation this morning. It seems that the apologists for Trump are actually claiming that the actual word their idol said was "sh**house" rather than the reported "sh**hole" and thus the people who reported the hole version are lying and not to be trusted nor believed on anything they have said.

The first thing that comes to mind is that this is a distinction without a difference. The offending part of both terms was the first four letters identifying solid waste expelled by the body. Whether that waste is placed in a hole in the ground or in an outhouse - the insult is the same when applied to a nation or the people who reside there.

If it is reported that I called a woman who sells sex for money a "whore" and later I deny it and someone who was present says I actually called her a "hooker" it is the same damn thing.

This is getting to be nearly beyond belief and the Trump people are inventing new basements underneath the bottom of the barrel.

And this is what Trump believes is a winning issue for him?!?!?!? God save us all from this cult of personality built around a mentally ill narcissist who does not know the difference between his own delusional fantasies and the reality the rest of the nation lives in. And God save us from his apologists, his excusers, his sycophants and his toadies who enable him and keep this bizarre carnival going.
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All this manufactured outrage.

The most fascinating part is that it's coming from the same people who defended women parading around in vagina hats.
 
haymarket said:
That is not the issue here. The issue here is what Trump said and the efforts ofTrump apologists to excuse it by pretending he said something else which is actually the same thing.
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If they're not excusing trump's racism, they're still denying he said it, like the cowardly liars cotton and perwho; though they know trump bragged about it ...
 
I'm so glad this is all settled now ... because, frankly, I was getting worried it might turn out that he didn't say anything at all.
 
The essence of every defence of Trump has been, "well, those countries are ****holes, and Trump is just telling it straight". However, those points and our brilliant media miss the more important point...

"The most offensive part about Trump's comments today wasn't the word "****hole". It was the word "Why".
“Why are we having all these people from ****hole countries come here?”
Do people even really understand what our president is saying?
Look, I'm not angry because he calls places "****holes". I'm a first generation immigrant. I come from a ****hole. I lived 10 years in a ****hole. I'll freely call it a ****hole. I won't get offended if you call it a ****hole! It's a ****hole! Happy?
But how DARE he use my origin as an excuse to demand an additional reason to explain my presence here? Why is it up to me (but not say, a white Norwegian) to provide some extra level of justification for why I deserve the chance to be an American?
If these places really are ****holes, shouldn't there be an even greater obligation to help people who come from there, specifically because they're in the most danger?
Apparently not. Because Trump sincerely believes that some people do, and some people do not deserve the chance to be Americans, and your birthplace (and by extension, your race) is a key deciding factor in whether you deserve the chance to be an American. And it just so happens that the "right" places happen to be white.
Notice that he did not ask "Why are we letting in poor people?" or "Why are we letting in people without degrees?" or "Why are we letting in people with criminal histories" or "Why are we letting in people who refuse to learn English?".
No, let's cut the crap, already, because deep down, we know damn well that he's not talking about merit, or even about your place of origin. After everything you've seen, who do you think Trump is more likely to feel is more deserving citizenship? One of those scary Muslims that are "taking over" Norway, or a white South African? Cuz I got a feeling that when he gets a look at those people, the calculus for determining whether their home countries count as "****holes" suddenly changes.
Trump is practically saying "America is for white people. The rest are interlopers until proven otherwise. Until someone explains to me WHY they're even allowed here." Let's not forget either, that in this particular situation, he's not even talking about illegal immigrants. He doesn't get to even use that old fig-leaf.
He's talking about a reconfiguration of who we even allow the chance to become legal, through all the proper channels, not based on merit, not based on national security, not based on employability, but specifically targeted against the people he happens to hate.
And yet, the media is taking the bait. Already they rush to obfuscate the issue, to absolve him of the real evil of his comment by focusing on the "inappropriate word" he used.
Already, we're having these dumb conversations like "Well, he denied that he said that exact word, but he said she said that he did!" or "Well, to be fair, Haiti isn't exactly a nice place to live, he's just saying what everyone thinks privately, and he just chose a colorful word to describe it...", and instead of focusing on the racism, we just go "Oh, but look at the pretty beaches of Haiti! It's not a ****hole! Look at the natural beauty and rich culture of-" SHUT THE **** UP!
What bearing does that debate have on anything?!? As if Trump's greatest sin is his vocabulary and not watching the Travel Channel?
What our president said today isn't just boorish, it isn't just cruel. It betrays a deep and insidious level of racism that can only be described as white supremacy. Again. This is a pattern, don't forget. But in this instance, he is literally throwing a tantrum because the "wrong people" are enjoying the benefit of immigration.
And it is so depressing and so terrifying, that even Trump's opponents - the people who represent the best hope we got to survive this regime - are just gonna waltz past that and chide him for his language.
If I'm the one from the ****hole, how come Americans are so stupid that they keep falling for this crap over and over?"-BadDecisionDino
 
WCH said:
What was racist? Not all ****hole countries are Black, Asian or Caucasian.

Suggesting so might be considered "racist"
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The world is full of ****hole countries but that doesn't give them the right to come here. All they are good for is cheap wages and democrat votes.
 
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