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Hatch not running -Romney east favorite

Romney's a good man. I hope he wins the seat.

I agree. Why put up some uncorrupted young person when we can put up a stale leftover!
 
You have your facts off. You are TRYING DESPERATELY to make an argument. It sucks...but you ARE TRYING so I'll give you that.

He was not talking ONLY about tax payers. He was talking about a combination of committed democrat voters. He even said as much directly in his own words. And he is right. Why people like you have such a hard time with facts is beyond me. There are a core of democrat voters that WILL NOT BE SWAYED. Period...no matter what you do. If you waste resources trying to get their votes all you will be doing is wasting time and resources. The same can be said for a core group of GOP voters that would not vote democrat. He spoke facts. Facts hurt your feelings.

sorry.. but the only person not dealing with facts is you and Romney it appears.

There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what…who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims. …These are people who pay no income tax. …and so my job is not to worry about those people. I’ll never convince them that they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives ....Mitt Romney, remarks at private fundraiser, Boca Raton, Fla., May 17

Sorry but you are desperately trying to defend the indefensible. Romney used 47 percent of americans.. that DID NOT PAY INCOME TAX.. and assumed 1. They were dependent on government .. 2. They were democrats that could not be swayed 3. and 3. they never had nor would pay be a net income tax payer..

In showing his ignorance.. he pissed off a whole bunch of people that WOULD have voted for him.
 
I don't know. The only people that I have seen, for the most part, that stand up to Trump have nothing to lose. They are not running again.

Those with a dog in the hunt generally keep quiet because they either need/want something from Trump or they don't want to lose his base.

Shameful, too. I guess it separates the wheat from the chaff, but in the end, there's not much left over except the chaff, and what are we going to do with that?

I should clarify my post. I think Romney will be mum. He will say nothing about Trump.
 
sorry.. but the only person not dealing with facts is you and Romney it appears.



Sorry but you are desperately trying to defend the indefensible. Romney used 47 percent of americans.. that DID NOT PAY INCOME TAX.. and assumed 1. They were dependent on government .. 2. They were democrats that could not be swayed 3. and 3. they never had nor would pay be a net income tax payer..

In showing his ignorance.. he pissed off a whole bunch of people that WOULD have voted for him.
No he didnt. He correctly identified that there are at LEAST 47% of the people thta would not vote for a republican no matter what.

Do you believe the military is counted in that 47%? Do you believe the military votes democrat?
 
No he didnt. He correctly identified that there are at LEAST 47% of the people thta would not vote for a republican no matter what.

Do you believe the military is counted in that 47%? Do you believe the military votes democrat?

Wow.. that's making some stuff up.

Read the quote..

and YES... when you talk about 47% that don't pay taxes.. you are talking about military as well. . it was clear that he was making a point of not caring about people.. that 47% of americans that don't pay taxes.

. Democrats are about 31% of the population and many of them will swing vote.

He was clearly talking about the 47% of americans that don't pay income taxes at any one time. which includes a ton of republicans.. including military.
 
Wow.. that's making some stuff up.

Read the quote..

and YES... when you talk about 47% that don't pay taxes.. you are talking about military as well. . it was clear that he was making a point of not caring about people.. that 47% of americans that don't pay taxes.

. Democrats are about 31% of the population and many of them will swing vote.

He was clearly talking about the 47% of americans that don't pay income taxes at any one time. which includes a ton of republicans.. including military.
No he wasnt...and he specifically addressed the special interest categories. The military is not amongst them. He correctly stated...there was no value to attempt to attract the votes of that 47%. That was not his job. It would have been a waste of time.
 
No he wasnt...and he specifically addressed the special interest categories. The military is not amongst them. He correctly stated...there was no value to attempt to attract the votes of that 47%. That was not his job. It would have been a waste of time.

No.. he was specifically addressing the 47% of americans that don't pay income tax. . and that includes a lot of military folks. And elderly,, and college students.. and people that have worked for years.. but just lost a job.. .. THATS where the 47% comes from... 47% that don't pay income taxes at any one time.

Either Romney is too ignorant to realize that 47% that don't pay income taxes.. includes a lot of republican voters... or he did but didn't care because he was pandering to some rich donors.
 
No.. he was specifically addressing the 47% of americans that don't pay income tax. . and that includes a lot of military folks. And elderly,, and college students.. and people that have worked for years.. but just lost a job.. .. THATS where the 47% comes from... 47% that don't pay income taxes at any one time.

Either Romney is too ignorant to realize that 47% that don't pay income taxes.. includes a lot of republican voters... or he did but didn't care because he was pandering to some rich donors.
You are boring as ****. You keep parroting the same line while absolutely ignoring his actual words.

Buh bye.
 
What an oddly delusional conceit.

My gut on this, which is as unreliable as any gut feeling goes, is that Obama felt that as the first black president, he would be wisest to play mainstream, no drama, steady as-she-goes. I think he, and his close supporters, knew this was a watershed event, and they wanted to ensure they could say "see, a black man as president, and it's not the end of the world."

Of course, never underestimate the racist south, conservatives, etc., who demonized Obama from day-one for nonsense like the birther, being a Muslim, etc., and ended up voting in Trump on a racist, xenophobic, nationalist platform. Surely a backlash from having a black man as president...

But did Obama play it safe? Most likely so. And historically, it seems like a wise move, if not an understandable one.
 
You are boring as ****. You keep parroting the same line while absolutely ignoring his actual words.

Buh bye.

Back at you.. you are the one that keeps ignoring his actual words.

You refuse to acknowledge where he came up with 47%.

It was not the number of democrats. It was the number of people that don't pay federal income taxes at any one time.
 
My gut on this, which is as unreliable as any gut feeling goes, is that Obama felt that as the first black president, he would be wisest to play mainstream, no drama, steady as-she-goes. I think he, and his close supporters, knew this was a watershed event, and they wanted to ensure they could say "see, a black man as president, and it's not the end of the world."

Of course, never underestimate the racist south, conservatives, etc., who demonized Obama from day-one for nonsense like the birther, being a Muslim, etc., and ended up voting in Trump on a racist, xenophobic, nationalist platform. Surely a backlash from having a black man as president...

But did Obama play it safe? Most likely so. And historically, it seems like a wise move, if not an understandable one.

I don't think it was a matter of being "the first black president". I think it was simply he was a smart politician. He realized what worked in liberal Chicago.. did not work as well as president of the US. I think he was much more of a pragmatic president.. then an ideologue.
 
Orrin Hatch announced he will not run for re-election for his Senate seat in Utah where he is the longest serving GOP Senator and has served seven terms.

This clears the way for the very popular Mitt Romney to sweep in and take the seat and be a thorn in the side of Trump who he despises.

Utah Republican Sen. Orrin Hatch to retire - CNNPolitics




This could be fun to watch.

Romney is a good pick. He may run in 2024 but his problem is he is too nice of a guy, to "turn the other cheek" mentality to survive today's onslaught of democrat garbage dumping.
 
As long as you didn't work for one of those companies he liquidated for personal profit and left you without your pension.

Would you use tax payer money to save those failing companies? If Romney didn't do it, someone else would have....
 
What amazes me:
Evangelical voters who hate Mormons but liked Huckabee the hypocrite, and now like Trump, a man who has the morals of Bill Clinton..
Those who find rich people "out of touch" with reality, except when it is Trump, who still has unpaid contractors on Trump projects.
How the ego-maniac in chief lies so often and easily and his supporters still stand in line to kiss his lily white butt.
That American voters will even nominate a McCain or a Bush Junior who both spent their lives at the bottom of the academic barrel.
That Obama got a second whack at America after showing in his first term that he was unlikely to accomplish much.
How people who lost money on Wall Street and don't seem to care that the Perps have not been arrested by either party yet.

Both parties have failed miserably, which is most likely why Obama, and now Trump, got elected. NONE of them are praise-worthy, yet some of our debaters here treat them like they walk on water. Float on water is more like it.

We have the government we asked for, believe it or not.
 
Romney is a good pick. He may run in 2024 but his problem is he is too nice of a guy, to "turn the other cheek" mentality to survive today's onslaught of democrat garbage dumping.

You do realize Romney said your president is a fraud and a conman...right? He's right, btw, just wondering if you know.
 
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