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    Re: Hatch not running -Romney east favorite

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Valley View Post
    Hatch retirement is long past due. Good riddance.
    I agree. "Longest serving _______." should be a political mill stone, not something to be applauded or admired.

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    Re: Hatch not running -Romney east favorite

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Why? I thought Trump would be impeached by then. No?
    Sadly, the Republicans who control Congress have demonstrated to the nation that their role in checks and balances is not worth the toilet paper they used this morning and they take that no more seriously. Any chance of impeachment will not realistically happen unless the Dems take by the House via the vote this coming November. Only then will the votes be there as the GOP has demonstrated they will not oppose Trump no matter what the evidence says.
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    Re: Hatch not running -Romney east favorite

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Mitt Romney is a fine man, very intelligent and a man who does a great deal to give back to society in the recognition of the blessings he has received in life.

    America would be a very different, and I my view better, place had he won the Presidential election five years ago. Four additional years of President Obama's self important neglect of not only Congress, internally, but a general abandonment of international affairs, has led to the rise of the circumstances that brought us President Trump. Romney still has a lot to offer and I hope this is true - he will provide instant leadership in the Senate and the country.
    I tend to agree. I have not studied Romney's MO as closely as I have Trump's over the last couple of years, but assuming he does not vindictively carry a grudge--President Trump does not--he should be an asset to the Senate.

    Like President Trump, Romney is excellent at assessing what the problem is and devising a fix for it. Unlike President Trump he is far more the quintessential politician, however, and while he would be more tactful, he might not be as unimpressed with the status quo and therefore be more inclined to let things ride than President Trump has been willing to do. In other words, I don't see Romney as the determined reformer that President Trump is.

    I agree that Romney would have been a far superior choice over Obama in 2012, and I did vote for him though he was not my first choice to the be the nominee that year. I don't know if he has the personality to inspire any significant improvements though. Would the GOP have regained the Senate in 2014 if things had gotten marginally better under Romney? Hard to say.

    I do think he will be a decent Senator unless he comes in with an underlying motive to hurt President Trump.
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    Re: Hatch not running -Romney east favorite

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    2017 is paved with the bodies of Republicans humiliated and insulted by Trump only to end up being shills for him anyway. If history is any teacher then it's not logical to expect different from Romney. Democrats should be focused like a laser beam on stopping trump's legislative agenda by electing Democrats to Congress.
    I suspect Romneys lips will be firmly planted on Trumps large orange ars, much like Graham.
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    Re: Hatch not running -Romney east favorite

    Quote Originally Posted by yankintx View Post
    I suspect Romneys lips will be firmly planted on Trumps large orange ars, much like Graham.
    Here's largely why.
    Slideshow: Trump's approval rating by state - FOX Carolina 21

    Somewhat out of date, but it's still a good benchmark. Where is Trump's support heaviest?

    50% + states (few 60% at time of polling)

    Which states are included in that bunch? South Carolina (under 51%), Utah (above 52%), Wyoming (60%).

    This is how you turn a guy from a dude who said this (https://www.politico.com/story/2016/...-choice-218069) into a guy who said this: (https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/...88068823715842)

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    Re: Hatch not running -Romney east favorite

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Sadly, the Republicans who control Congress have demonstrated to the nation that their role in checks and balances is not worth the toilet paper they used this morning and they take that no more seriously. Any chance of impeachment will not realistically happen unless the Dems take by the House via the vote this coming November. Only then will the votes be there as the GOP has demonstrated they will not oppose Trump no matter what the evidence says.
    Your delusional.

    Trump goes no were till some one else is elected in a general election... To think and hope other wise is a fools game for sure.

    So be one.

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    Re: Hatch not running -Romney east favorite

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    I tend to agree. I have not studied Romney's MO as closely as I have Trump's over the last couple of years, but assuming he does not vindictively carry a grudge--President Trump does not--he should be an asset to the Senate.

    Like President Trump, Romney is excellent at assessing what the problem is and devising a fix for it. Unlike President Trump he is far more the quintessential politician, however, and while he would be more tactful, he might not be as unimpressed with the status quo and therefore be more inclined to let things ride than President Trump has been willing to do. In other words, I don't see Romney as the determined reformer that President Trump is.

    I agree that Romney would have been a far superior choice over Obama in 2012, and I did vote for him though he was not my first choice to the be the nominee that year. I don't know if he has the personality to inspire any significant improvements though. Would the GOP have regained the Senate in 2014 if things had gotten marginally better under Romney? Hard to say.

    I do think he will be a decent Senator unless he comes in with an underlying motive to hurt President Trump.
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    Re: Hatch not running -Romney east favorite

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Sadly, the Republicans who control Congress have demonstrated to the nation that their role in checks and balances is not worth the toilet paper they used this morning and they take that no more seriously. Any chance of impeachment will not realistically happen unless the Dems take by the House via the vote this coming November. Only then will the votes be there as the GOP has demonstrated they will not oppose Trump no matter what the evidence says.
    That would be because there is no evidence that would lead any sane person to pursue impeachment.

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    Re: Hatch not running -Romney east favorite

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    That would be because there is no evidence that would lead any sane person to pursue impeachment.
    If Mueller will find enough evidence to come forward with a report to Congress that either insinuates or recommends proceedings against the President, they would.

    But, in all actuality, impeachment is nearly whatever the majority of Congress says it is.

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    Re: Hatch not running -Romney east favorite

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    That would be because there is no evidence that would lead any sane person to pursue impeachment.
    I would have phrased that: . . .because there is no evidence that would lead any intellectually honest person to pursue impeachment.

    I know Romney has said some pretty incendiary things along those lines so we'll see if that carries over to a Senator Romney term of office. His quarrel with Trump seems to be much more aesthetic than substantial as is almost all criticism of President Trump.
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