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    Statutory Annual leave in 100s of other Nations but not in the United States

    Statutory meaning (decided or controlled by laws) is the means by which people in the labor force in most other nations and perhaps all Industrialized nations,except the United States receive their annual vacation time. Why is statutory requirements an important fact when it comes to employee annual leave? Because the statutory requirement, requires all companies doing business in that country to comply with that basic law in order to continue to do business in that particular country. For instance even people who work at McDonald's in France are entitled to receive a minimum of five weeks of paid vacation time. (30 days with Saturdays but not Sundays counted as holidays) plus up to 22 days of RTT (Reduction of working time) for employees who choose to work more than the standard 35 hour work week with the limit being 39 hours. Further additional hours will be compensated monetarily.
    In addition Bonus days are given to people who choose to take part of their annual time during the winter with one bonus day given for every three days taken during the winter time. The combination of all the rules could result in 9.5 weeks vacation time. To be fair I haven't as of this writing determined if these rules or any part of these rules apply to PART TIME EMPLOYEES. If any of you know for a fact one way or the other ,please enlighten me.

    The point why I bring this subject up however, is for us to ponder how can (companies succeed) in a country and quite frankly 100s of countries who do the same, while claiming they will go bankrupt in America if America does anything like this. How can a country like France have a have an income tax rate bracket as of 2017 that looks like this,

    1) to eu 9807 zero tax
    2) eu 9807 to eu 27086 14 %
    3) eu 27086 to eu72,617 30% Personal income tax is high but they get Universal healthcare. So they get something for their money. If there is no
    healthcare and you
    4) eu72617 to eu153783 41% you very ill, you loose your home and go bankrupt in America.
    5) eu 153783 and over 45%

    and a corporate tax rate of 33.33% .The corporate tax rate in the U.S with the G.O.P. Bill is close to France's so should we expect to see better social
    reforms as a result? AT&T since the passage of the bill has announced some bonuses and firings.

    While there a lot of factors to analyze when trying to compare the social apparatus of various countries I have only brought forth but a few. Others would be Median income and cost of living. The median income inf France as of 2016 was eu 42,992 while in the U.S it was $60,164
    The cost of living excluding rent in France was 11.8% higher than the U.S. while rent was 28.23% lower in France as compared to the U.S. where one euro equals 1.19 U.S.dollars.

    I only brought these later facts into focus was in the spirit of fairness to the two systems. These later facts really wasn't germane to my focus of this writing. My Focus is, Why are WE NOT GETTING WHAT WE ARE PAYING FOR? We are the RICHEST country in the world. WHY CAN"T WE AFFORD TO DO FOR OUR CITIZENS WHAT SO MANY OTHER COUNTRIES MANAGE TO DO WITH LESS? My God Afghanistan has STATUTORY ANNUAL LEAVE. The United Arab Emirates has STATUTORY ANNUAL LEAVE. Another question , why aren't more Americans angry. This is supposed to be a government of the people. But all we hear is let's give the poor Billionaires a well deserved break. Please let's talk fairly with one another on this one.

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    Re: Statutory Annual leave in 100s of other Nations but not in the United States

    20% VAT on damned near every non-essential you buy and 5.5% on food and water. They also operate on the principle that if people work less hours you can employ more people.

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    "... This is supposed to be a government of the people. But all we hear is let's give the poor Billionaires a well deserved break. Please let's talk fairly with one another on this one."

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    A bit difficult to do when you already start off with attacking Trump's new tax plan.

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    Re: Statutory Annual leave in 100s of other Nations but not in the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by Barnacle View Post
    "... This is supposed to be a government of the people. But all we hear is let's give the poor Billionaires a well deserved break. Please let's talk fairly with one another on this one."

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    A bit difficult to do when you already start off with attacking Trump's new tax plan.
    Attacking Trump's tax plan means you can't talk fairly?
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    Re: Statutory Annual leave in 100s of other Nations but not in the United States

    The small government theory and an idolisation of corporations and the free market in America means that Americans will get 10 days if they are lucky (many get 0), while the rest of the world gets a guaranteed period of 14-30 days.

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    Re: Statutory Annual leave in 100s of other Nations but not in the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by Aristaeus View Post
    The small government theory and an idolisation of corporations and the free market in America means that Americans will get 10 days if they are lucky (many get 0), while the rest of the world gets a guaranteed period of 14-30 days.
    So, quit your job and start your own business instead of whining. That's what I did -- years ago. It was a lot of hard work at first, 60-80 hour weeks, but now, I take off for a month at a time if I like and I've traveled to all the places I wanted to travel. You can do that when you get off your butt and realize that your life is in your hands, not the hands of some employer.

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    Re: Statutory Annual leave in 100s of other Nations but not in the United States

    If you don't like this country.... MOVE!

    Like it or not, there are different classes in this nation. Want better work benefits, better yourself and get a better job!

    People who are whiners are often the ones who stay in the lower ranks, because employers don't like whiners!

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    Re: Statutory Annual leave in 100s of other Nations but not in the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by HowardBThiname View Post
    So, quit your job and start your own business instead of whining. That's what I did -- years ago. It was a lot of hard work at first, 60-80 hour weeks, but now, I take off for a month at a time if I like and I've traveled to all the places I wanted to travel. You can do that when you get off your butt and realize that your life is in your hands, not the hands of some employer.

    It takes initiative but the rewards are great.
    Stand by for heavy rolls with that idea.

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    Re: Statutory Annual leave in 100s of other Nations but not in the United States

    Washington State just dictated 1 hour of full pay sick leave for every 40 worked,,,,which works out to more that a week of vacation per year, this on top of another 50 cents min wage to $11.50........that is a huge jump.
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    Re: Statutory Annual leave in 100s of other Nations but not in the United States

    Quote Originally Posted by HowardBThiname View Post
    So, quit your job and start your own business instead of whining. That's what I did -- years ago. It was a lot of hard work at first, 60-80 hour weeks, but now, I take off for a month at a time if I like and I've traveled to all the places I wanted to travel. You can do that when you get off your butt and realize that your life is in your hands, not the hands of some employer.

    It takes initiative but the rewards are great.
    I'm not whining. I'm not American so I'm legally entitled to 20 days annual leave per year (I actually get more than 20). I'm just sympathising with the many millions of Americans who get screwed due to the lack of worker's rights. The 'free market' approach to annual leave has spectacularly failed workers compared to a governmental approach.

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