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Detroit... 60 yeears of Democratic rule

Blkdirt Farmer

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Detroit was the wealthiest city in the USA for decades. Then in 1962 they elected a liberal Democratic Mayor, and the people of Detroit have done so to this day.

Hard to argue the results of one party rule. A good example of how the train leaves the tracks when liberals with good intentions, ruin it for all in the city..

Detroit in RUINS! (Crowder goes Ghetto) - YouTube

Any one have an example of this with Republican rule of a city for over 50 years?

I would be curious to know..
 
Blkdirt Farmer said:
Detroit was the wealthiest city in the USA for decades. Then in 1962 they elected a liberal Democratic Mayor, and the people of Detroit have done so to this day.

Hard to argue the results of one party rule. A good example of how the train leaves the tracks when liberals with good intentions, ruin it for all in the city..

Detroit in RUINS! (Crowder goes Ghetto) - YouTube

Any one have an example of this with Republican rule of a city for over 50 years?

I would be curious to know..
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Detroit hit its peak in population in 1950. Do you have any idea who the next two mayors were covering the entire decade of the Fifties when they lost population to the tune of 180,000 people and the tax base that went with that same population?

clue for the clueless: they were NOT Democrats.
 
haymarket said:
Detroit hit its peak in population in 1950. Do you have any idea who the next two mayors were covering the entire decade of the Fifties when they lost population to the tune of 180,000 people and the tax base that went with that same population?

clue for the clueless: they were NOT Democrats.
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I’m not sure that peak population is a bad thing. As a matter of fact, it is good that there were fewer inhabitants there in the bad years that followed.
 
joG said:
I’m not sure that peak population is a bad thing. As a matter of fact, it is good that there were fewer inhabitants there in the bad years that followed.
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And that is a debatable position. All I wanted to point out to the poster was it was NOT a situation of liberal democrats responsible for the start of the Detroit population loss.
 
haymarket said:
Detroit hit its peak in population in 1950. Do you have any idea who the next two mayors were covering the entire decade of the Fifties when they lost population to the tune of 180,000 people and the tax base that went with that same population?

clue for the clueless: they were NOT Democrats.
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What in the world has that got to do with this thread? Democrats were handed the keys to the most affluent city in the world in 1962. Over the next 60 years we see what "feel good" Government is really going to turn out. :2wave:

No logic, no leadership that is grounded in realistic leadership. Just emotions, and purchasing of votes with free stuff. It's the Democratic parties way!

Watch the video, I bet you don't have the courage to see what your left wing has done in Detroit. Other wise you would not even comment, but hang your head in abject SHAME.
 
Blkdirt Farmer said:
What in the world has that got to do with this thread?
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If you have to ask that question you are NOT a rational or thinking person capable of understanding the answer which you already were given.
 
haymarket said:
And that is a debatable position. All I wanted to point out to the poster was it was NOT a situation of liberal democrats responsible for the start of the Detroit population loss.
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Actually that as a wider point is an interesting one. The first causes were not politically driven but by shifting business economics or the results of company/union contracts. Where the political class fell down was, when it did not correct the business environment of the city to be more supportive of industry after it became clear that the big three would no longer thrive in the historical one.
 
joG said:
Actually that as a wider point is an interesting one. The first causes were not politically driven but by shifting business economics or the results of company/union contracts. Where the political class fell down was, when it did not correct the business environment of the city to be more supportive of industry after it became clear that the big three would no longer thrive in the historical one.
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A few years ago I went round and round and round on this with somebody outside of Michigan who had no idea what they were talking about. The exodus from Detroit had everything to do with the new freeway system built to the suburbs, larger suburban lots than those available in the Detroit city limits, the availability of new construction as opposed to older homes, and financing offers that veterans could avail themselves of in those newer suburbs.

NONE of that was or is political and NONE of it has to do with the parties of the mayors.

I was pointing out to the person who started this thread that it is beyond stupid to rip into Democratic Mayors of Detroit for its problems since the big exodus from the city started under two Republican mayors in the decade of the Fifties.

But hey - why confuse a true believer with facts?
 
haymarket said:
If you have to ask that question you are NOT a rational or thinking person capable of understanding the answer which you already were given.
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Describe those people who left under Republican leadership. Who and why.

You know it all don't you? :roll:
 
Blkdirt Farmer said:
Detroit was the wealthiest city in the USA for decades. Then in 1962 they elected a liberal Democratic Mayor, and the people of Detroit have done so to this day.

Hard to argue the results of one party rule. A good example of how the train leaves the tracks when liberals with good intentions, ruin it for all in the city..

Detroit in RUINS! (Crowder goes Ghetto) - YouTube

Any one have an example of this with Republican rule of a city for over 50 years?

I would be curious to know..
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What is the GOP run city that is the model of success?
 
I have a secret to tell everyone. Something major in American history happened called deindustrialization. It will give you the answers you seek.
 
Blkdirt Farmer said:
Describe those people who left under Republican leadership. Who and why.

You know it all don't you? :roll:
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They overwhelming majority were human beings. As to why... I already gave some reasons in a previous post.
 
haymarket said:
A few years ago I went round and round and round on this with somebody outside of Michigan who had no idea what they were talking about. The exodus from Detroit had everything to do with the new freeway system built to the suburbs, larger suburban lots than those available in the Detroit city limits, the availability of new construction as opposed to older homes, and financing offers that veterans could avail themselves of in those newer suburbs.

NONE of that was or is political and NONE of it has to do with the parties of the mayors.

I was pointing out to the person who started this thread that it is beyond stupid to rip into Democratic Mayors of Detroit for its problems since the big exodus from the city started under two Republican mayors in the decade of the Fifties.

But hey - why confuse a true believer with facts?
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What had to do with political decisions were roads, city levies, zoning, social programs etc. The plans should have been reworked in the mid 60s, when it became obvious that the area was in decline.
 
joG said:
What had to do with political decisions were roads, city levies, zoning, social programs etc. The plans should have been reworked in the mid 60s, when it became obvious that the area was in decline.
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Reworked how? The highways were already built out of the city..... city lots were already small ..... there was no land on which to build new housing ..... social programs were mostly federal or state .... zoning laws already permitted factory use and other undesirable buildings in residential areas because that is how they evolved over decades .....
 
haymarket said:
A few years ago I went round and round and round on this with somebody outside of Michigan who had no idea what they were talking about. The exodus from Detroit had everything to do with the new freeway system built to the suburbs, larger suburban lots than those available in the Detroit city limits, the availability of new construction as opposed to older homes, and financing offers that veterans could avail themselves of in those newer suburbs.
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Show me any Urban center today who does not see this shift. :roll:

Answer they all do. New roads and new development. Do they all fall into the same place Detroit has? Your hypothesis is not holding water very well...

If you listed to the video I linked you would know the answers to, and how liberal Mayors ravaged this city with free give aways, and vote buying.. Unions a left wing strong hold, also had their part in the destruction of this once grand city.

You just hate to have to admit the left wing wrecked this place single handedly. it took 60 years, now we know were liberal leader ship results in.
 
Blkdirt Farmer said:
Show me any Urban center today who does not see this shift. :roll:

Answer they all do. New roads and new development. Do they all fall into the same place Detroit has? Your hypothesis is not holding water very well...

If you listed to the video I linked you would know the answers to, and how liberal Mayors ravaged this city with free give aways, and vote buying.. Unions a left wing strong hold, also had their part in the destruction of this once grand city.

You just hate to have to admit the left wing wrecked this place single handedly. it took 60 years, now we know were liberal leader ship results in.
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No you don't. You know what happened to one American city. Around the world, the best places to live are all, by American standards, very liberal.
And if you want to participate in a debating forum, you ought to familiarize yourself with some basics, like the 'non sequitur' fallacy...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non_sequitur_(logic)
 
Blkdirt Farmer said:
Show me any Urban center today who does not see this shift. :roll:

Answer they all do. New roads and new development. Do they all fall into the same place Detroit has? Your hypothesis is not holding water very well...

If you listed to the video I linked you would know the answers to, and how liberal Mayors ravaged this city with free give aways, and vote buying.. Unions a left wing strong hold, also had their part in the destruction of this once grand city.

You just hate to have to admit the left wing wrecked this place single handedly. it took 60 years, now we know were liberal leader ship results in.
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Name a great GOP city
 
haymarket said:
Reworked how? The highways were already built out of the city..... city lots were already small ..... there was no land on which to build new housing ..... social programs were mostly federal or state .... zoning laws already permitted factory use and other undesirable buildings in residential areas because that is how they evolved over decades .....
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I was thinking less of the population shrinkage. It is more the loss of an industrial base that interested me. But in the cases I have looked at things like sales taxes, property taxes et alias, rent support or other preventive regulations for rezoning or gentrification, schools or kindergartens etc. are the kind of fators that can make a city attraktive for people to move there.
 
Blkdirt Farmer said:
Detroit was the wealthiest city in the USA for decades. Then in 1962 they elected a liberal Democratic Mayor, and the people of Detroit have done so to this day.

Hard to argue the results of one party rule. A good example of how the train leaves the tracks when liberals with good intentions, ruin it for all in the city..

Detroit in RUINS! (Crowder goes Ghetto) - YouTube

Any one have an example of this with Republican rule of a city for over 50 years?

I would be curious to know..
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You know what I detest about the American right? Bull**** like this.

This is propaganda.

To boil down the degradation of the "rust belt" and especially to one thing is about as stupid as thinking the electricity come FROM the light bulb.

Anyone with a computer can identify the reasonS for Detroit's decline....I loved reading about the Eisenhower interstate system years ago, and how it negatively affected the auto industry. But that's one of hundreds of reasons.

And this is what I find so dishonest and disgusting about the American right. This is dishonest propaganda, and a bait thread with NOT ONE fact on which to base the bait...


In short, the American right daily proves itself to be shallow, mean spirited and ignorant, and worse insist on remaining ignorant by posting sewage like this.
 
Grand Mal said:
No you don't. You know what happened to one American city. Around the world, the best places to live are all, by American standards, very liberal.
And if you want to participate in a debating forum, you ought to familiarize yourself with some basics, like the 'non sequitur' fallacy...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non_sequitur_(logic)
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Your answer makes little sense. Perhaps because your wrong and I am correct, all cities have the same as Detroit had done to it. The left wing leadership coupled with left wing labor unions killed the car manufacturing there by bloating their costs to the point they either left or went bankrupt.

As for liberal cities being the best places to live, that has nothing to do with Detroit, other than did it make you list of best places? LOL :lamo

You so outgunned it isn't funny. This is fun, can we do it some more?
 
Grand Mal said:
No you don't. You know what happened to one American city. Around the world, the best places to live are all, by American standards, very liberal.
And if you want to participate in a debating forum, you ought to familiarize yourself with some basics, like the 'non sequitur' fallacy...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non_sequitur_(logic)
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He's even wrong there. The reasons Detroit and the rest of the "rust belt" became the rust belt is a study in American history of the cozy relationship of industry and government in the US. While looking up Detroit, one needs to look up "Love Canal", "Cleveland river fire", a book called "The Rise and Fall of the American Iron Empire", or 'how to **** your taxpayers by paying companies to move to new, cleaner cities after they've poisoned the original. Look up Bethlehem Steel, Erie & Lavkawana Rail way (paid not to haul coal).

The cause is exactly the same as Trump's grand tax plan.....lining your friends pockets while ****ting on the people
 
Fearandloathing said:
He's even wrong there. The reasons Detroit and the rest of the "rust belt" became the rust belt is a study in American history of the cozy relationship of industry and government in the US. While looking up Detroit, one needs to look up "Love Canal", "Cleveland river fire", a book called "The Rise and Fall of the American Iron Empire", or 'how to **** your taxpayers by paying companies to move to new, cleaner cities after they've poisoned the original. Look up Bethlehem Steel, Erie & Lavkawana Rail way (paid not to haul coal).

The cause is exactly the same as Trump's grand tax plan.....lining your friends pockets while ****ting on the people
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Load of hog wash here. Conspiracy between industry and Government. Sounds like quite a work of fiction to me. :roll:

I see your in Canada, so what do you care?
 
MrPeanut said:
I have a secret to tell everyone. Something major in American history happened called deindustrialization. It will give you the answers you seek.
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Yeah, but then Bird can't just blame leeburals.
 
Blkdirt Farmer said:
Your answer makes little sense. Perhaps because your wrong and I am correct, all cities have the same as Detroit had done to it. The left wing leadership coupled with left wing labor unions killed the car manufacturing there by bloating their costs to the point they either left or went bankrupt.

As for liberal cities being the best places to live, that has nothing to do with Detroit, other than did it make you list of best places? LOL :lamo

You so outgunned it isn't funny. This is fun, can we do it some more?
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The best places in the world to live all have, by your standards, liberal leadership.
Your whole position in this thread is based on a fallacy. Non sequitur. You might as well say the demise of Detroit was caused by rising average lifespan. In fact, saying so would make you look more thoughtful and intelligent than you do now.
 
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