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Detroit... 60 yeears of Democratic rule

60 years of failed leadership, and the near total destruction of a Midwestern City.

The leader ship was exclusively Democrats btw.

Do you have any awareness that elections in Detroit are not done by political party?

And when you say exclusively - that forgets that we had two admitted Republican mayors in the entire decade of the Fifties when the collapse of the population began and took hold.

How do you explain the abject failure of the left wing leadership?

What so called leftwing policies are you claiming were responsible for Detroits problems?
 
Charlottesville?
Charlottesville has been run by a democrat mayor since 1980. I have no point in the matter just wanted to through out that little tid bit.
 
Wichita mayor from 2007 to 2015 democrat
Kansas city mayor democrat since 2005
Topeka mayor since 2013

Mayors do not have the authority to set state economic policy.

Sam Brownback has been serving as the 46th Governor of Kansas since 2011.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Brownback#Relationship_with_Koch_family

Under Brownback, Kansas' credit faces another downgrade | MSNBC

http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/dave-helling/article180667216.html

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/15/kansas-trump-style-tax-cuts-economic-disaster


‘It just doesn’t work’
Sitting in the capitol’s vaulted lobby, Goossen, now a senior fellow at the Kansas Center for Economic Growth, has little time for Laffer’s arguments, and says that the Trump administration’s recent presentation gave him the shivers.

When Brownback outlined his plan in 2012, he, too, said the tax cuts would pay for themselves. “He too said the tax cuts would benefit everybody, [that] they would be be ‘a shot of adrenaline to the heart’ of the Kansan economy,” said Goossen.

Instead, Goossen claims, the money has gone to a small group of wealthy Kansans while the state’s budget has been left with a roughly $1bn shortfall. Its school system, once its crown jewel, has suffered year after year of cuts, and its savings are gone. The non-partisan Tax Policy Center calculates Trump’s tax plan would cost $6.2tn over the first decade.

“We are a cautionary tale. It sounds great, everybody gets a tax cut and it’ll balance – but it just doesn’t work,” said Goossen.

Campaigning for re-election in 2014, Brownback pledged his tax plans would add 100,000 new jobs over four years. By March this year, the state had added just 12,400 private-sector jobs. Kansas isn’t even keeping up with its neighbors. Hiring in Kansas increased by 0.3% in the last year; Missouri’s growth rate over that same period was 1.4%, according to the US Bureau of Labor Statistics.
 
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You have already been educated on the reality that office holders in Detroit DO NOT run for office under any political party label.

In addition to that, it has already been made obvious to you that the loss of Detroits population started under two mayors in the decade of the Fifties who self identified as republicans.

But still you persist with this nonsense.
 
But still you persist with this nonsense.

You have proven nothing. Democratic rule is what killed Detroit, as was stated in the OP an links. :2wave:

You team of liberals are what we can see at work in Detroit for the last 60 years, and what an epic failure of left wing leadership for ALL TO SEE.....

And all you can hag your hat on is a couple of Republican mayors in the 50's. :roll: Like they were responsible for the next 60 years! :roll: what a laugh! You must think Republicans are retarded.:roll: I can tell you it is in fact, the other way around... :lamo

Mark Steyn on Detroit, America's third world city. - YouTube

The Truth About Detroit's Bankruptcy - YouTube
 
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For the record I don't believe a word of what you say as well...

Canadians I know dispise the current Government, and it is obvious in your Government that indeed the conservatives do as well. You make a mockery of all the good people who are the working heart and soul of Canadian industry. Your open border to any and all Muslims and any other group is not going to serve your country well, as it will be just a few more years until the SOROS back importation of Muslims overwhelms your society and the terrorism starts. :2wave:

Just as in Europe, Soros is there. He is every were the liberal left is, across the entire globe. Funny how you left wing liberals all deny that plain to see FACT.

Another American who knows nothing about Europe.
 
You have proven nothing. Democratic rule is what killed Detroit, as was stated in the OP an links. :2wave:

You team of liberals are what we can see at work in Detroit for the last 60 years, and what an epic failure of left wing leadership for ALL TO SEE.....

And all you can hag your hat on is a couple of Republican mayors in the 50's. :roll: Like they were responsible for the next 60 years! :roll: what a laugh! You must think Republicans are retarded.:roll: I can tell you it is in fact, the other way around... :lamo

Mark Steyn on Detroit, America's third world city. - YouTube

The Truth About Detroit's Bankruptcy - YouTube

You have yet to show so called Democratic programs that were responsible for the Detroit decline. Until you do so, all you are engaging in is partisan hyperbole.

Which so called Democratic Party program are you citing as responsible for the loss of Detroits population?
 
You have yet to show so called Democratic programs that were responsible for the Detroit decline. Until you do so, all you are engaging in is partisan hyperbole.

Which so called Democratic Party program are you citing as responsible for the loss of Detroits population?

Your partisan hyperbole will not allow you to open the links to the You Tube vids. :roll:

The answers are there, and not my words, but I agree with them totally...

Come back when you examine the links. Other wise time for you to STFU. :2wave:
 
Your partisan hyperbole will not allow you to open the links to the You Tube vids. :roll:

The answers are there, and not my words, but I agree with them totally...

Come back when you examine the links. Other wise time for you to STFU. :2wave:

I did watch your links. I saw NOTHING in there which identified any Democratic Party policies and showed how they are to blame for loss of Detroits population.

So which one are you citing exactly?
 
Detroit was the wealthiest city in the USA for decades. Then in 1962 they elected a liberal Democratic Mayor, and the people of Detroit have done so to this day.

Hard to argue the results of one party rule. A good example of how the train leaves the tracks when liberals with good intentions, ruin it for all in the city..

Detroit in RUINS! (Crowder goes Ghetto) - YouTube

Any one have an example of this with Republican rule of a city for over 50 years?

I would be curious to know..
Yeah, yeah, yeah, the decline of Detroit is all about electing local Democrats and not about the big three automakers losing their near monopoly on auto production to foreign car makers; automakers moving to low wage areas and mechanization that now can make the same number of cars with 80% fewer workers.

If the OP’s narrative was correct, explain why rural America is the new inner city? Those areas vote overwhelmingly Republican.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/rural-american-the-new-inner-city_us_58c5961ce4b0a797c1d39e24
 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, the decline of Detroit is all about electing local Democrats and not about the big three automakers losing their near monopoly on auto production to foreign car makers; automakers moving to low wage areas and mechanization that now can make the same number of cars with 80% fewer workers.

If the OP’s narrative was correct, explain why rural America is the new inner city? Those areas vote overwhelmingly Republican.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/rural-american-the-new-inner-city_us_58c5961ce4b0a797c1d39e24

Left wing UNIONS killed the auto makers, along with a new "city income tax' never before collected, and a Democrats wish....

It is and was the Democrats who killed not only Detroit but the auto makers as well. :2wave:

Taking from those who have, to give to those who have not. Wealth redistribution that drove whites away, so the minorities and Democrats could wreck and riot, what was left.

This is a total Democratic, liberal mess, and we get to see what happens when we let Democrats run the show, as they have for 60+ years in Detroit. And the city is still not out of the woods, as they have unsurmountable debt still on their books. :2wave:

BTW way this thread is all about Detroit, so don't try and change the subject. I won't let that happen.
 
George Soros is all any one needs to know about who and what in Europe.

So why not stay on topic, Detroit? Because you got nothing to say?:roll:

Detroit Timeline HD - YouTube


Get lost, you have nothing for this thread as usual

You mentioned Europe. As usual? You joined this site very recently. You have slipped up. Whose sock are you?
 
Left wing UNIONS killed the auto makers, along with a new "city income tax' never before collected, and a Democrats wish....

It is and was the Democrats who killed not only Detroit but the auto makers as well. :2wave:

Taking from those who have, to give to those who have not. Wealth redistribution that drove whites away, so the minorities and Democrats could wreck and riot, what was left.

This is a total Democratic, liberal mess, and we get to see what happens when we let Democrats run the show, as they have for 60+ years in Detroit. And the city is still not out of the woods, as they have unsurmountable debt still on their books. :2wave:

BTW way this thread is all about Detroit, so don't try and change the subject. I won't let that happen.

So foreign competition and mechanization had nothing to do with the decline — it was all about evil unions trying to keep a living wage for their members and the city income tax?

None of that explains why rural America is in economic decline today.

One can come up with all kinds of pointed explanations, as you have done, blaming Democrats, unions, blacks for Detroit’s decline — if one is determined to wear ideological blinders. Those blinders willfully ignore many other more reasonable explanations.
 
So foreign competition and mechanization had nothing to do with the decline — it was all about evil unions trying to keep a living wage for their members and the city income tax?

None of that explains why rural America is in economic decline today.

One can come up with all kinds of pointed explanations, as you have done, blaming Democrats, unions, blacks for Detroit’s decline — if one is determined to wear ideological blinders. Those blinders willfully ignore many other more reasonable explanations.

The reality is that the surviving auto companies are unionized and making large profits. So the unions are not the cause.
 
You mentioned Europe. As usual? You joined this site very recently. You have slipped up. Whose sock are you?

I think you are following the very obvious bread crumbs. Well done.
 
So foreign competition and mechanization had nothing to do with the decline — it was all about evil unions trying to keep a living wage for their members and the city income tax?

None of that explains why rural America is in economic decline today.

One can come up with all kinds of pointed explanations, as you have done, blaming Democrats, unions, blacks for Detroit’s decline — if one is determined to wear ideological blinders. Those blinders willfully ignore many other more reasonable explanations.

Foreign competition did well because the Unions were producing crap. :2wave: If the cars the unions were building were quality, the competition would not have done so well...

Living wage? :roll: the Unions were all about paying workers, some for not working at all, but sitting in rooms idle so they could get paid... and free health care

You hucksters are just trying anything you can to not claim any responsibility for this total left wing destruction of a once great American city.

Now your trying to confuse Rural America with this, to try and change what an obviously painful and shame full thread that I am beating you over your liberal head with.

Such a familiar tactic for a left wing toll. You drive by leftist got nothing else to fall back on? :roll:

Mark Steyn: Liberal Policies And The Bankruptcy Of Detroit - YouTube

Justify this... If you can. :2wave: :lamo

I bring you tons of evidence you bring me what? A nothing burger......
 
Foreign competition did well because the Unions were producing crap. :2wave: If the cars the unions were building were quality, the competition would not have done so well...

Living wage? :roll: the Unions were all about paying workers, some for not working at all, but sitting in rooms idle so they could get paid... and free health care

You hucksters are just trying anything you can to not claim any responsibility for this total left wing destruction of a once great American city.

Now your trying to confuse Rural America with this, to try and change what an obviously painful and shame full thread that I am beating you over your liberal head with.

Such a familiar tactic for a left wing toll. You drive by leftist got nothing else to fall back on? :roll:

Mark Steyn: Liberal Policies And The Bankruptcy Of Detroit - YouTube

Justify this... If you can. :2wave: :lamo
Sorry, unions don’t and didn’t run the auto plants. That was the responsibility of the high paid executives at Ford, GM, and Chrysler. If the quality was subpar, it was their responsibility.

There are many books written on this topic. If you read any of them,you would have learned that the automakers chose to plow profits into stock dividends instead of R&D. Again, that was a management decision not a union one.

Your thread thesis, such as it is, is crumbling before our eyes.

oh, just so you know, biased YouTube videos aren’t serious citations.
 
Foreign competition did well because the Unions were producing crap. :2wave: If the cars the unions were building were quality, the competition would not have done so well...

Living wage? :roll: the Unions were all about paying workers, some for not working at all, but sitting in rooms idle so they could get paid... and free health care

You hucksters are just trying anything you can to not claim any responsibility for this total left wing destruction of a once great American city.

Now your trying to confuse Rural America with this, to try and change what an obviously painful and shame full thread that I am beating you over your liberal head with.

Such a familiar tactic for a left wing toll. You drive by leftist got nothing else to fall back on? :roll:

Mark Steyn: Liberal Policies And The Bankruptcy Of Detroit - YouTube

Justify this... If you can. :2wave: :lamo

I bring you tons of evidence you bring me what? A nothing burger......

Iirc, cars started to suck after the gas crisis. Japan made more economical cars more cheaply.

The unions didn't design the crappy cars they were building.

Nobody could have made the "k" car great.
 
So foreign competition and mechanization had nothing to do with the decline — it was all about evil unions trying to keep a living wage for their members and the city income tax?

None of that explains why rural America is in economic decline today.

One can come up with all kinds of pointed explanations, as you have done, blaming Democrats, unions, blacks for Detroit’s decline — if one is determined to wear ideological blinders. Those blinders willfully ignore many other more reasonable explanations.

A few things regarding rural America. Agriculture is highly automated now and extremely efficient. It takes less manpower than ever to run what are now fairly specialized farms--no extended labor requirements = no jobs.

Franchises and corporations pull their profits from small towns instead of plowing most of their profits back into the local economies, eliminating a lot of economic power from the towns and the multipliers thoe dollars used to bring to the local economies.

Automation has crippled small factory and industrial operations and the ones that are left don't tend to pay very well because it is an owners market when it comes to labor. Few local dairies, textile and paper mills are gone and done, metal fabrication is small scale, coal is being squeezed hard; to name a few industries.

Economic policy has yet to find its footing to help small business without helping big business more. It seems as though every policy that aids small business benefits big business even more. This is despite the fact that small business is most responsible to job growth and drive local economics. The best thing that Congress could do would be to find a way to assist small businesses with growth without giving more advantage to big business. Capping detrimental policies intended to be deterrents to bad behavior of large corporations should be not be penalizing small businesses with less than 20 people who don't have the resources to take perverse advantage of specific labor laws in the same way a conglomerate with thousands employed would.

There are a lot of factors and some of them are policy driven rather than just being economic forces.
 
A few things regarding rural America. Agriculture is highly automated now and extremely efficient. It takes less manpower than ever to run what are now fairly specialized farms--no extended labor requirements = no jobs.

Franchises and corporations pull their profits from small towns instead of plowing most of their profits back into the local economies, eliminating a lot of economic power from the towns and the multipliers thoe dollars used to bring to the local economies.

Automation has crippled small factory and industrial operations and the ones that are left don't tend to pay very well because it is an owners market when it comes to labor. Few local dairies, textile and paper mills are gone and done, metal fabrication is small scale, coal is being squeezed hard; to name a few industries.

Economic policy has yet to find its footing to help small business without helping big business more. It seems as though every policy that aids small business benefits big business even more. This is despite the fact that small business is most responsible to job growth and drive local economics. The best thing that Congress could do would be to find a way to assist small businesses with growth without giving more advantage to big business. Capping detrimental policies intended to be deterrents to bad behavior of large corporations should be not be penalizing small businesses with less than 20 people who don't have the resources to take perverse advantage of specific labor laws in the same way a conglomerate with thousands employed would.

There are a lot of factors and some of them are policy driven rather than just being economic forces.

Tax policy can certainly be used to lessen the advantage of large corporations. State/local use of sales and property taxes instead of income taxes would help a lot in that regard. Where income taxes are used (especially at the federal level) then make income bracket rates progressive for businesses just as they are for individuals. Does it really make sense to tax Walmart's income at the same rate as the income from operating a taco truck? If so, then why tax a CEO's income at a higher rate than that applied to their shelf stocker or cashier?
 
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