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Detroit... 60 yeears of Democratic rule

Load of hog wash here. Conspiracy between industry and Government. Sounds like quite a work of fiction to me. :roll:

I see your in Canada, so what do you care?

He's in one of the best cities in the world to live in, with a city government that's so liberal it'd probably be illegal in half of the US.
 
Detroit was the wealthiest city in the USA for decades. Then in 1962 they elected a liberal Democratic Mayor, and the people of Detroit have done so to this day.

Hard to argue the results of one party rule. A good example of how the train leaves the tracks when liberals with good intentions, ruin it for all in the city..

Detroit in RUINS! (Crowder goes Ghetto) - YouTube

Any one have an example of this with Republican rule of a city for over 50 years?

I would be curious to know..

Yep ....there are no great GOP cities
 
Show me any Urban center today who does not see this shift. :roll:

Answer they all do. New roads and new development. Do they all fall into the same place Detroit has? Your hypothesis is not holding water very well...

If you listed to the video I linked you would know the answers to, and how liberal Mayors ravaged this city with free give aways, and vote buying.. Unions a left wing strong hold, also had their part in the destruction of this once grand city.

You just hate to have to admit the left wing wrecked this place single handedly. it took 60 years, now we know were liberal leader ship results in.



Vancouver, BC, Toronto, Ont., Montreal, Que., Seattle, San Fransisco

All bold have have socialist city governments, all BC and Ontario have socialist governments, Toronto is Liberal as is the federal government and all are growing too fast, real estate prices are calculated by square inch.

Montreal and Vancouver are United Nations "Landmark" cities because of their diversity, Vancouver is usually in the top ten "most livable cities". The last right wing administration at Vancouver city hall was driven out of office in 1980.

You can't make the argument that ideology killed Detroit with any kind of established information or documented research because there isn't any.
Face the truth, government and after government has kicked the ball down the road

BTW, the information in the video is not "information" but one man's opinion, which like ass holes we all have and most stink
 
Vancouver, BC, Toronto, Ont., Montreal, Que., Seattle, San Fransisco

All bold have have socialist city governments, all BC and Ontario have socialist governments, Toronto is Liberal as is the federal government and all are growing too fast, real estate prices are calculated by square inch.

Montreal and Vancouver are United Nations "Landmark" cities because of their diversity, Vancouver is usually in the top ten "most livable cities". The last right wing administration at Vancouver city hall was driven out of office in 1980.

You can't make the argument that ideology killed Detroit with any kind of established information or documented research because their isn't any.
Face the truth, government and after government has kicked the ball down the road

I know quite a lot about Canadian politics, and to say your liberal bastions are the hit of the ball for all Canadians is quite off the mark. My friends in Canada want little if nothing to do with the Soros lead left wing of Canada. The liberals are enjoying a term in power, but that may end soon. Native Canadians have just about had enough of your boy Justin...

This Should Alarm EVERY Canadian!!! - YouTube

Ambrose Catches Trudeau Lying To The Canadian People - YouTube

The conflicts of interest are telling.

I can tell you this, I would never live in a liberal Canadian city. Lots of other better places to live in Canada.
 
He's in one of the best cities in the world to live in, with a city government that's so liberal it'd probably be illegal in half of the US.



Left?.... these guys totally revolutionized traffic in the city core by installing $1.5 billion on bicycle lanes in three years!...in a city where it rains four months of the year.

"Vision Vancouver" has declared war on the internal combustion engine.

AND, we have the first-ever all nude beach in North America...so there
 
He's in one of the best cities in the world to live in, with a city government that's so liberal it'd probably be illegal in half of the US.

What kind of answer is that? Your proud to say it would be illegal here.... :roll:

I get it, if your liberal you will love it here.. Trouble is I am not liberal at all.. Your opinion is all you have, and like an ass holes everyone has one..

Back to the liberal ****hole we know as Detroit. It is the point of this thread. To bad liberals for the most part destroyed the city and the industry that created it.
 
Left?.... these guys totally revolutionized traffic in the city core by installing $1.5 billion on bicycle lanes in three years!...in a city where it rains four months of the year.

"Vision Vancouver" has declared war on the internal combustion engine.

AND, we have the first-ever all nude beach in North America...so there

Add outrageous housing costs and you still have one of the best places to live. My son and I used to get on a city bus to go snowboarding at Grouse Mtn. I remember driving to Hemlock to snowboard and passing guys golfing and other guys in the river fishing for steelhead.
Yeah, this city government is a bit too far left, even for me, but can't argue with success. 'Course, I can't say how much the city government has to do with the exalted livability rating of Vancouver except to say they haven't totally screwed up, which might be all we can hope for in government.
 
What kind of answer is that? Your proud to say it would be illegal here.... :roll:

I get it, if your liberal you will love it here.. Trouble is I am not liberal at all.. Your opinion is all you have, and like an ass holes everyone has one..

Back to the liberal ****hole we know as Detroit. It is the point of this thread. To bad liberals for the most part destroyed the city and the industry that created it.

Is it that you don't pay attention, or you can't? Judging by your language skills, I'm saying the latter.
Done here. You've had your ass handed to you by several people in your own thread, and I try to make it a point to not repeat myself, especially to someone who couldn't understand the first time.
As for what I bolded, shouldn't you wait a day at least, and for another thread before you copy what someone said to you?
 
I know quite a lot about Canadian politics, and to say your liberal bastions are the hit of the ball for all Canadians is quite off the mark. My friends in Canada want little if nothing to do with the Soros lead left wing of Canada. The liberals are enjoying a term in power, but that may end soon. Native Canadians have just about had enough of your boy Justin...

This Should Alarm EVERY Canadian!!! - YouTube

Ambrose Catches Trudeau Lying To The Canadian People - YouTube

The conflicts of interest are telling.

I can tell you this, I would never live in a liberal Canadian city. Lots of other better places to live in Canada.



What the **** is to a "Soros lead left wing of Canada?" I have never heard a Canadian use the term Soros. Second, if you are suggesting the US left is feeding $ to "liberals" that means two things: You have no idea about anything here and two, don't understand our system of government. One, Liberals in Canada are not "socialists", they are, strangely enough, "liberal". "Socialist" usually vote for the NDP which calls itself "progressive" or the Green who are, well, green.

That suggest your claims in the above post is bull****. You see we have what you call "electoral campaign finance laws here, so the claims of your friends are as much UFO sightings because people like Soros would go to jail. Secondly both "Socialist Parties" have strict donation regulations and limits on size. The greater majority of their financing come from organized labour, not billionaires. Three, it is against the law to accept funds from OUTSIDE of Canada for ANY political party.

Fourth, the Ambrose post makes it indisputable that you are a died in the wool conservative as the whole ****ing piece is propaganda...Trudeau did not lie.:lamo

SO, it's clear you make stuff up.

I doubt you would be happy ANYWHERE in this country. We sent the right wing to the wilderness three years ago for a guy who's legalizing pot. So you would be very lonely. We LIKE taxes, we LIKE our medical system, we LIKE, no we are PROUD of our social safety net, the fact we have never had a race riot, never started a war, finished every one and are the only country which has repelled not one, but too attempted American invasions.
And we are proud of of how we open borders to the people your people hate.

In closing, the conservatives aren't going anywhere in this country anytime soon. Their leader Weaver?, is standing on a "crime and punishment" platform while Canada's crime rate is plummeting and while them country is moving to 'restoration justice'

Good luck.

And for the record Idon't believe a word you say
 
What the **** is to a "Soros lead left wing of Canada?" I have never heard a Canadian use the term Soros. Second, if you are suggesting the US left is feeding $ to "liberals" that means two things: You have no idea about anything here and two, don't understand our system of government. One, Liberals in Canada are not "socialists", they are, strangely enough, "liberal". "Socialist" usually vote for the NDP which calls itself "progressive" or the Green who are, well, green.

That suggest your claims in the above post is bull****. You see we have what you call "electoral campaign finance laws here, so the claims of your friends are as much UFO sightings because people like Soros would go to jail. Secondly both "Socialist Parties" have strict donation regulations and limits on size. The greater majority of their financing come from organized labour, not billionaires. Three, it is against the law to accept funds from OUTSIDE of Canada for ANY political party.

Fourth, the Ambrose post makes it indisputable that you are a died in the wool conservative as the whole ****ing piece is propaganda...Trudeau did not lie.:lamo

SO, it's clear you make stuff up.

I doubt you would be happy ANYWHERE in this country. We sent the right wing to the wilderness three years ago for a guy who's legalizing pot. So you would be very lonely. We LIKE taxes, we LIKE our medical system, we LIKE, no we are PROUD of our social safety net, the fact we have never had a race riot, never started a war, finished every one and are the only country which has repelled not one, but too attempted American invasions.
And we are proud of of how we open borders to the people your people hate.

In closing, the conservatives aren't going anywhere in this country anytime soon. Their leader Weaver?, is standing on a "crime and punishment" platform while Canada's crime rate is plummeting and while them country is moving to 'restoration justice'

Good luck.

And for the record Idon't believe a word you say

For the record I don't believe a word of what you say as well...

Canadians I know dispise the current Government, and it is obvious in your Government that indeed the conservatives do as well. You make a mockery of all the good people who are the working heart and soul of Canadian industry. Your open border to any and all Muslims and any other group is not going to serve your country well, as it will be just a few more years until the SOROS back importation of Muslims overwhelms your society and the terrorism starts. :2wave:

Just as in Europe, Soros is there. He is every were the liberal left is, across the entire globe. Funny how you left wing liberals all deny that plain to see FACT.
 
Add outrageous housing costs and you still have one of the best places to live. My son and I used to get on a city bus to go snowboarding at Grouse Mtn. I remember driving to Hemlock to snowboard and passing guys golfing and other guys in the river fishing for steelhead.
Yeah, this city government is a bit too far left, even for me, but can't argue with success. 'Course, I can't say how much the city government has to do with the exalted livability rating of Vancouver except to say they haven't totally screwed up, which might be all we can hope for in government.


At first I hated Vision, but when Gregor Robison took over I slowly came over. The bike lanes reall are a boost and look good. They spend a lot of time debating world issues, but that can be forgiven.

I DON'T like the option that's in the sidelines.

Yes, even with housing pirces, but you see we've had a social safety net for ages. For instance I am 40% below market rate because I have been in this place for 30 years. Seniors with low income get a portion of their rent paid.

I like being able to walk anywhere. The last time I was in the states I found that everything is paved and built for cars, here pedestrians are accounted for. I also love the atmosphere, the attitude. I have Mennierre's disease and have to walk with a can, the other day I dropped it (not unusual) and two people bonked heads trying to get it for me, one was Punjabi the other an Asian and no one thought **** of anything, just another day in Canada. Our buses don't say "Not in Service" the say "Sorry, Not in Service".


And yeah, the best thing is the climate and what you can do. I used to SCUBA dive and harvest supper in the morning, go sailing for the afternoon, dine in the cuisine any nation in the world and go skiing at night....

However, we are going to have to find a way to slow the growth. We just replaced the Port Mann bridge with a new suspension counterbalance eight lane giant...and now the mayors want it twinned. We will open the northwest Sky Train corridor serving Port Moody and Coquitlam next year, and planning has begun to dig an underground all along the Boradway corridor to the University Endowment Lands, and housing prices are rising and rising, every time someone says "bubble" it goes up again. I just found out the house I bought in 1982 for "$135,00 just sold for $1,150,000
 
Detroit was never really that much. With the auto industry leaving decades ago, it just declined.
 
For the record I don't believe a word of what you say as well...

Canadians I know dispise the current Government, and it is obvious in your Government that indeed the conservatives do as well. You make a mockery of all the good people who are the working heart and soul of Canadian industry. Your open border to any and all Muslims and any other group is not going to serve your country well, as it will be just a few more years until the SOROS back importation of Muslims overwhelms your society and the terrorism starts. :2wave:

Just as in Europe, Soros is there. He is every were the liberal left is, across the entire globe. Funny how you left wing liberals all deny that plain to see FACT.



So why do you respond?

I don't believe you, you don't believe me, you get your news from you tube, I read international press, you have opinions, I obsevre


Good bye. Get it this time
 
Show me any Urban center today who does not see this shift. :roll:

Answer they all do. New roads and new development. Do they all fall into the same place Detroit has? Your hypothesis is not holding water very well...

If you listed to the video I linked you would know the answers to, and how liberal Mayors ravaged this city with free give aways, and vote buying.. Unions a left wing strong hold, also had their part in the destruction of this once grand city.

You just hate to have to admit the left wing wrecked this place single handedly. it took 60 years, now we know were liberal leader ship results in.

What so called left wing programs created by left wing mayors in Detroit can you provide evidence for causing this loss of population?
 
I was thinking less of the population shrinkage. It is more the loss of an industrial base that interested me. But in the cases I have looked at things like sales taxes, property taxes et alias, rent support or other preventive regulations for rezoning or gentrification, schools or kindergartens etc. are the kind of fators that can make a city attraktive for people to move there.

Of course I would agree that there are lots of factors that contribute to a cities problems. And you may have cited a few that bear investigation.

All I am asking is for the person who started this thread to come forward with actual evidence of so called left wing programs instituted by left wing mayors of Detroit that caused its downfall.
 
At first I hated Vision, but when Gregor Robison took over I slowly came over. The bike lanes reall are a boost and look good. They spend a lot of time debating world issues, but that can be forgiven.

I DON'T like the option that's in the sidelines.

Yes, even with housing pirces, but you see we've had a social safety net for ages. For instance I am 40% below market rate because I have been in this place for 30 years. Seniors with low income get a portion of their rent paid.

I like being able to walk anywhere. The last time I was in the states I found that everything is paved and built for cars, here pedestrians are accounted for. I also love the atmosphere, the attitude. I have Mennierre's disease and have to walk with a can, the other day I dropped it (not unusual) and two people bonked heads trying to get it for me, one was Punjabi the other an Asian and no one thought **** of anything, just another day in Canada. Our buses don't say "Not in Service" the say "Sorry, Not in Service".


And yeah, the best thing is the climate and what you can do. I used to SCUBA dive and harvest supper in the morning, go sailing for the afternoon, dine in the cuisine any nation in the world and go skiing at night....

However, we are going to have to find a way to slow the growth. We just replaced the Port Mann bridge with a new suspension counterbalance eight lane giant...and now the mayors want it twinned. We will open the northwest Sky Train corridor serving Port Moody and Coquitlam next year, and planning has begun to dig an underground all along the Boradway corridor to the University Endowment Lands, and housing prices are rising and rising, every time someone says "bubble" it goes up again. I just found out the house I bought in 1982 for "$135,00 just sold for $1,150,000

Don't get me started about that ridiculous decision. I loved the old Port Mann Bridge, it was one of the most graceful steel arches anywhere...

opm.jpg

I worked on that bridge many times, the last for a year and a half from '00 to '01, widening by 1 lane and seismic upgrading. In that time, we could have doubled it. Basically it'd be another arch, another box girder(the heavy horizontal member) and the steel to tie it to the existing. Instead they tore it down in favour of that nightmarish spider-web that's there now. Same thing'll happen with the Pattullo Bridge. When they built the Skytrain Bridge beside it, we were all saying they should run the skytrain over the Pattullo and build a new road bridge, but no-oo. That's a special bridge, too- look how the top and bottom chords of the trestle approaches both make arches over the main span...

pbr.jpg

I've stood on top of that arch, at night. I like bridges generally, but the Pattullo and the old Port Mann especially.
 
A few years ago I went round and round and round on this with somebody outside of Michigan who had no idea what they were talking about. The exodus from Detroit had everything to do with the new freeway system built to the suburbs, larger suburban lots than those available in the Detroit city limits, the availability of new construction as opposed to older homes, and financing offers that veterans could avail themselves of in those newer suburbs.

NONE of that was or is political and NONE of it has to do with the parties of the mayors.

The history lesson about the exodus isn't political, but how Detroit was managed for the next half century after the exodus has to do with politics. How was Detroit managed for the next half-century? By Democrats and labor unions.

I was pointing out to the person who started this thread that it is beyond stupid to rip into Democratic Mayors of Detroit for its problems since the big exodus from the city started under two Republican mayors in the decade of the Fifties.

It's amazing that you dig back as far as necessary to find a Republican to blame for Detroit's problems. If the last Republican mayor of Detroit had been in the 1880s, you'd be telling us all about the 1880s as context for what happened to Detroit.
 
Kansas.
That's not just a GOP run city, it's an entire STATE.
CASE CLOSED.
 
The history lesson about the exodus isn't political, but how Detroit was managed for the next half century after the exodus has to do with politics. How was Detroit managed for the next half-century? By Democrats and labor unions.



It's amazing that you dig back as far as necessary to find a Republican to blame for Detroit's problems. If the last Republican mayor of Detroit had been in the 1880s, you'd be telling us all about the 1880s as context for what happened to Detroit.

You do realize that Detroit city elections are non-partisan?

And I went to the year 1950, as previously explained because that was the high water population mark and the exodus began right after that.
 
Left?.... these guys totally revolutionized traffic in the city core by installing $1.5 billion on bicycle lanes in three years!...in a city where it rains four months of the year.

"Vision Vancouver" has declared war on the internal combustion engine.

AND, we have the first-ever all nude beach in North America...so there

All because of this idiot?

What did we do to deserve this? Trudeau is an Idiot - YouTube

Read the comments below. It is worth the time to see how your fellow Canadians feel about your liberal feminist "boy" :2wave:
 
Of course I would agree that there are lots of factors that contribute to a cities problems. And you may have cited a few that bear investigation.

All I am asking is for the person who started this thread to come forward with actual evidence of so called left wing programs instituted by left wing mayors of Detroit that caused its downfall.

The evidence is in the YOU TUBE in the OP. But of course you did not bother to open it because you know it will go against your liberal bias...

Your about as smart as the PM in Canada I think
 
The evidence is in the YOU TUBE in the OP. But of course you did not bother to open it because you know it will go against your liberal bias...

Your about as smart as the PM in Canada I think

What evidence in the you tube video do you think negates the facts I have presented?
 
What evidence in the you tube video do you think negates the facts I have presented?

60 years of failed leadership, and the near total destruction of a Midwestern City.

The leader ship was exclusively Democrats btw.

How do you explain the abject failure of the left wing leadership?
 
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