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    Re: Detroit... 60 yeears of Democratic rule

    I have a secret to tell everyone. Something major in American history happened called deindustrialization. It will give you the answers you seek.

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    Re: Detroit... 60 yeears of Democratic rule

    Quote Originally Posted by Blkdirt Farmer View Post
    Describe those people who left under Republican leadership. Who and why.

    You know it all don't you?
    They overwhelming majority were human beings. As to why... I already gave some reasons in a previous post.
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    Re: Detroit... 60 yeears of Democratic rule

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    A few years ago I went round and round and round on this with somebody outside of Michigan who had no idea what they were talking about. The exodus from Detroit had everything to do with the new freeway system built to the suburbs, larger suburban lots than those available in the Detroit city limits, the availability of new construction as opposed to older homes, and financing offers that veterans could avail themselves of in those newer suburbs.

    NONE of that was or is political and NONE of it has to do with the parties of the mayors.

    I was pointing out to the person who started this thread that it is beyond stupid to rip into Democratic Mayors of Detroit for its problems since the big exodus from the city started under two Republican mayors in the decade of the Fifties.

    But hey - why confuse a true believer with facts?
    What had to do with political decisions were roads, city levies, zoning, social programs etc. The plans should have been reworked in the mid 60s, when it became obvious that the area was in decline.

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    Re: Detroit... 60 yeears of Democratic rule

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    What had to do with political decisions were roads, city levies, zoning, social programs etc. The plans should have been reworked in the mid 60s, when it became obvious that the area was in decline.
    Reworked how? The highways were already built out of the city..... city lots were already small ..... there was no land on which to build new housing ..... social programs were mostly federal or state .... zoning laws already permitted factory use and other undesirable buildings in residential areas because that is how they evolved over decades .....
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    Re: Detroit... 60 yeears of Democratic rule

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    A few years ago I went round and round and round on this with somebody outside of Michigan who had no idea what they were talking about. The exodus from Detroit had everything to do with the new freeway system built to the suburbs, larger suburban lots than those available in the Detroit city limits, the availability of new construction as opposed to older homes, and financing offers that veterans could avail themselves of in those newer suburbs.
    Show me any Urban center today who does not see this shift.

    Answer they all do. New roads and new development. Do they all fall into the same place Detroit has? Your hypothesis is not holding water very well...

    If you listed to the video I linked you would know the answers to, and how liberal Mayors ravaged this city with free give aways, and vote buying.. Unions a left wing strong hold, also had their part in the destruction of this once grand city.

    You just hate to have to admit the left wing wrecked this place single handedly. it took 60 years, now we know were liberal leader ship results in.

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    Re: Detroit... 60 yeears of Democratic rule

    Quote Originally Posted by Blkdirt Farmer View Post
    Show me any Urban center today who does not see this shift.

    Answer they all do. New roads and new development. Do they all fall into the same place Detroit has? Your hypothesis is not holding water very well...

    If you listed to the video I linked you would know the answers to, and how liberal Mayors ravaged this city with free give aways, and vote buying.. Unions a left wing strong hold, also had their part in the destruction of this once grand city.

    You just hate to have to admit the left wing wrecked this place single handedly. it took 60 years, now we know were liberal leader ship results in.
    No you don't. You know what happened to one American city. Around the world, the best places to live are all, by American standards, very liberal.
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    Re: Detroit... 60 yeears of Democratic rule

    Quote Originally Posted by Blkdirt Farmer View Post
    Show me any Urban center today who does not see this shift.

    Answer they all do. New roads and new development. Do they all fall into the same place Detroit has? Your hypothesis is not holding water very well...

    If you listed to the video I linked you would know the answers to, and how liberal Mayors ravaged this city with free give aways, and vote buying.. Unions a left wing strong hold, also had their part in the destruction of this once grand city.

    You just hate to have to admit the left wing wrecked this place single handedly. it took 60 years, now we know were liberal leader ship results in.
    Name a great GOP city

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    Re: Detroit... 60 yeears of Democratic rule

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Reworked how? The highways were already built out of the city..... city lots were already small ..... there was no land on which to build new housing ..... social programs were mostly federal or state .... zoning laws already permitted factory use and other undesirable buildings in residential areas because that is how they evolved over decades .....
    I was thinking less of the population shrinkage. It is more the loss of an industrial base that interested me. But in the cases I have looked at things like sales taxes, property taxes et alias, rent support or other preventive regulations for rezoning or gentrification, schools or kindergartens etc. are the kind of fators that can make a city attraktive for people to move there.

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    Re: Detroit... 60 yeears of Democratic rule

    Quote Originally Posted by vegas giants View Post
    Name a great GOP city
    Read the OP. You seemingly never do.

    I asked the same question...

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    Re: Detroit... 60 yeears of Democratic rule

    Quote Originally Posted by Blkdirt Farmer View Post
    Detroit was the wealthiest city in the USA for decades. Then in 1962 they elected a liberal Democratic Mayor, and the people of Detroit have done so to this day.

    Hard to argue the results of one party rule. A good example of how the train leaves the tracks when liberals with good intentions, ruin it for all in the city..

    Detroit in RUINS! (Crowder goes Ghetto) - YouTube

    Any one have an example of this with Republican rule of a city for over 50 years?

    I would be curious to know..


    You know what I detest about the American right? Bull**** like this.

    This is propaganda.

    To boil down the degradation of the "rust belt" and especially to one thing is about as stupid as thinking the electricity come FROM the light bulb.

    Anyone with a computer can identify the reasonS for Detroit's decline....I loved reading about the Eisenhower interstate system years ago, and how it negatively affected the auto industry. But that's one of hundreds of reasons.

    And this is what I find so dishonest and disgusting about the American right. This is dishonest propaganda, and a bait thread with NOT ONE fact on which to base the bait...


    In short, the American right daily proves itself to be shallow, mean spirited and ignorant, and worse insist on remaining ignorant by posting sewage like this.
    Closing on 70 years and the price of pot dropping 40 to 50% in BC, 'Donald Trump and the Americans' become a great reason to stay stoned 24/7. Life IS good.

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