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What happened to the tea party?

I strongly suspect that the vast majority of anger from the tea party faction was anti-Obama hatred motivated in no small part by his race and the resentment of what that meant to their own fragile sense of identity.

Once he stopped being president and his white successor made it clear his job was to erase that blackboard - they are more than happy with that even it it means raping and betraying some of the so called principles they lied about having in the first place.

It was a sham movement built on lies and fueled by racial resentment and that is now more than obvious with their silence on the debt increase and most of the cuts going to the rich and corporations - not the little guy who pretended to be speaking for all along.

As usual, you are making it up as you go along. Problem for you and 99percenter is that the Tea Party is still quite active as we found out during the IRS scandal in Obama's second term. And while Obama policies were a very big motivator for the formation of the Tea party, it was about much more then just Obama. it was about establishment politicians in general. As for your silly claim about racial resentment, are you including the tea partier in this video?

 
That sounds awfully familiar...where have I heard it before? Oh, yeah, by Reagan before the 1982 recession, and by Bush 43 when instead of using the budget surplus he inherited from Clinton to pay down the debt, he mailed out checks to the American people (I got one).

Bush 41 called this "voodoo economics", because he knew that trickle-down economics doesn't work - there's NO hard evidence showing that it ever has. But anymore, y'all seem to think that Bush 41 is some kind of left-wing socialist - and besides, Trump already showed what contempt he has for those who were shot down in combat and taken prisoner by the enemy....

Tax revenues nearly doubling after the Reagan tax cuts is proof positive that trickle down absolutely does wark.
 
The economy is moving. Unemployment is so low, all that job creation you are dreaming of will be in foreign lands, where--thanks to Trump's new tax plan--corporations will no longer have to pay tax on their profits.

Really? Since when does 21% translate to nothing?
 
Well they didn't evaporate! Seems likely they are now calling themselves something else, like (White Nationalist)

Will the left ever grow out of it's 'race baiting" tactic? it certainly did not help you in 2016.
 
Remember when they were bitching about deficits. Now the gop adds 1.5 trillion to the deficit and none of them care.

The tea party has been replaced by pro or avid trumpers. Complaining about the deficit or the national debt has always been an out of power party thing. Republican, Democrat, doesn't matter. Once in power, the party in power spends like there is no tomorrow. You seen it with Bush II when the democrats railed against his spending. Then Obama entered office and it was the republicans turn to rant and rave about deficits and the national debt. Today, this year, with Trump as president, the Democrats are now hollering and screaming about deficits and the national debt.

Fact is neither party really cares. It's just a political talking point. Rhetoric to the max with no action.
 
As usual, you are making it up as you go along. Problem for you and 99percenter is that the Tea Party is still quite active as we found out during the IRS scandal in Obama's second term. And while Obama policies were a very big motivator for the formation of the Tea party, it was about much more then just Obama. it was about establishment politicians in general. As for your silly claim about racial resentment, are you including the tea partier in this video?



Tell me about the tea party and today. By the way - you need to stop capitalizing Tea as in tea party since there is no such thing.

A few confused tokens don't mean squat.
 
Tax revenues nearly doubling after the Reagan tax cuts is proof positive that trickle down absolutely does wark.

Really? Gee, that's funny, 'cause I just looked it up and the tax revenue for the first year that Reagan submitted a budget (1982) for was $617B, and the revenue for the last year for which he submitted a budget (1989) was $991B. That's an increase of about 60% - and for some reason that doesn't seem like "doubling" to me.

So I checked the same set of years - the years for which they are responsible for submitting budgets (even if they did not submit budgets) - for Obama, and under him the revenues increased 68.5% - that's a bit more than Reagan did. Clinton's was 58%. And Bush 43's 'improvement' was 13.6%.

What's more, you'll find that Reagan increased tax revenue not through "trickle-down", but by RAISING taxes:

And while Reagan somewhat slowed the marginal rate of growth in the budget, it continued to increase during his time in office. So did the debt, skyrocketing from $700 billion to $3 trillion. Then there's the fact that after first pushing to cut Social Security benefits - and being stymied by Congress - Reagan in 1983 agreed to a $165 billion bailout of the program. He also massively expanded the Pentagon budget.

"Ronald Reagan was never afraid to raise taxes," historian Douglas Brinkley, who edited Reagan's diaries, told NPR. "He knew that it was necessary at times. And so there's a false mythology out there about Reagan as this conservative president who came in and just cut taxes and trimmed federal spending in a dramatic way. It didn't happen that way. It's false."

It's important to note that Reagan's tax increases did not wipe out the effects of that initial tax cut. But they did eat up about half of it. And as Peter Beinart points out, the 1983 payroll tax hike went to pay for Social Security and Medicare. ("Reagan raised taxes to pay for government-run health care," Beinart writes.) Reagan also raised the gas tax and signed the largest corporate tax increase in history, an act Joshua Green writes would be "utterly unimaginable for any conservative to support today."


So...yeah, when it comes to increasing tax revenue, Reagan did much of it by raising taxes, and while he did better than Clinton or Bush 43, Obama did even better - and let's not forget that Reagan doubled the deficit and more than tripled the federal debt, while Obama cut the deficit by more than half, even though the overall debt did double. But then, like Cheney said, "Reagan proved that deficits don't matter". I guess that must be why y'all don't have any problem at all with Trump's $1.5T tax cut, with how it WILL blow up our federal deficit.

Man, but I bet y'all do hate it when you have to deal with real, actual numbers!
 
Hahahaha !!

Paul Krugman, is that you ? Because back in November, he predicted a global economic collapse and a stock market collapse if Trump won

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/krugman-trump-global-recession-2016-231055

Hows that working out ?

That reminds me of all those years the alt-righters were telling us that if Obama was elected President, he would come to take away our guns. That didn't work out either.

You're hanging your entire argument on Paul Krugman? You must be a leftist. Many of them hang on his every word and prediction, too.
 
That reminds me of all those years the alt-righters were telling us that if Obama was elected President, he would come to take away our guns. That didn't work out either.

You're hanging your entire argument on Paul Krugman? You must be a leftist. Many of them hang on his every word and prediction, too.

Wierd, I dont remember that at all.

There are SO many legitimate reasons to critique the Obama adminstration, so why anyone would focus on that is beyond me

What I do remember are the crtiques against ObamaCare, Foreign policy, corruption and lawlesness on a unprecdented scale.
 
Wierd, I dont remember that at all.

There are SO many legitimate reasons to critique the Obama adminstration, so why anyone would focus on that is beyond me

What I do remember are the crtiques against ObamaCare, Foreign policy, corruption and lawlesness on a unprecdented scale.

You don't remember people thinking Obama was going to take guns away? I call bull**** on that. Or else you were sleeping through 2009-2017.
 
Remember when they were bitching about deficits. Now the gop adds 1.5 trillion to the deficit and none of them care.

A Black man is no longer president.
 
I strongly suspect that the vast majority of anger from the tea party faction was anti-Obama hatred motivated in no small part by his race and the resentment of what that meant to their own fragile sense of identity.

Once he stopped being president and his white successor made it clear his job was to erase that blackboard - they are more than happy with that even it it means raping and betraying some of the so called principles they lied about having in the first place.

It was a sham movement built on lies and fueled by racial resentment and that is now more than obvious with their silence on the debt increase and most of the cuts going to the rich and corporations - not the little guy who pretended to be speaking for all along.

You said it much better than I.
 
Wierd, I dont remember that at all.

There are SO many legitimate reasons to critique the Obama adminstration, so why anyone would focus on that is beyond me

What I do remember are the crtiques against ObamaCare, Foreign policy, corruption and lawlesness on a unprecdented scale.

There were many legitimate things to criticize obama. Instead they focused on things that weren't legitimate like benghazi, birth certificiate, obama's religion, etc.
 
Tea Party's work if any is done.
The Demos are out and rightfully so Donald Trump is in.
 
Remember when they were bitching about deficits. Now the gop adds 1.5 trillion to the deficit and none of them care.

The Tea Party focused on deficits, but in their name "Taxed Enough Already" they likely aren't going to be too riled about tax cuts.

Where was Antifa/the ***** hats/Love Trumps Hate groups when the IRS was acting in an actual fascist manner to harm conservative groups?
 
Because the 1.5 T is the down payment on getting the economy moving again. As employment increases we will get that back many times over in payroll and corporate taxes.

The economy needs to get moving again? Is that because of the recession we are in?
 
0% on monies earned off-shore unless repatriated, Then it's 10%. .

That's the point. With a competitive corporate tax rate, many of those American offshore companies are coming home.
 
Tell me about the tea party and today. By the way - you need to stop capitalizing Tea as in tea party since there is no such thing.

A few confused tokens don't mean squat.

Sounds racist to me. Anytime the left sees a black conservative they come out with terms such as "token, strawberry, uncle tom, etc. Those of you on the left just hate it when African Americans do not dutifully remain on the democrat party plantation.

Are the African Americans in this video tokens as well?

 
Sounds racist to me. Anytime the left sees a black conservative they come out with terms such as "token, strawberry, uncle tom, etc. Those of you on the left just hate it when African Americans do not dutifully remain on the democrat party plantation.

Are the African Americans in this video tokens as well?



So there are no such things as tokens?
 
Sounds racist to me. Anytime the left sees a black conservative they come out with terms such as "token, strawberry, uncle tom, etc. Those of you on the left just hate it when African Americans do not dutifully remain on the democrat party plantation.

Are the African Americans in this video tokens as well?



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So, back to the topic of the thread. What happened to them? They can't understand that borrowing money for tax cuts today will mean that debt clock they liked to post will go in the wrong direction? They can't see that the little tax cuts they are getting will expire?
 
Really? Gee, that's funny, 'cause I just looked it up and the tax revenue for the first year that Reagan submitted a budget (1982) for was $617B, and the revenue for the last year for which he submitted a budget (1989) was $991B. That's an increase of about 60% - and for some reason that doesn't seem like "doubling" to me.

So I checked the same set of years - the years for which they are responsible for submitting budgets (even if they did not submit budgets) - for Obama, and under him the revenues increased 68.5% - that's a bit more than Reagan did. Clinton's was 58%. And Bush 43's 'improvement' was 13.6%.

What's more, you'll find that Reagan increased tax revenue not through "trickle-down", but by RAISING taxes:

And while Reagan somewhat slowed the marginal rate of growth in the budget, it continued to increase during his time in office. So did the debt, skyrocketing from $700 billion to $3 trillion. Then there's the fact that after first pushing to cut Social Security benefits - and being stymied by Congress - Reagan in 1983 agreed to a $165 billion bailout of the program. He also massively expanded the Pentagon budget.

"Ronald Reagan was never afraid to raise taxes," historian Douglas Brinkley, who edited Reagan's diaries, told NPR. "He knew that it was necessary at times. And so there's a false mythology out there about Reagan as this conservative president who came in and just cut taxes and trimmed federal spending in a dramatic way. It didn't happen that way. It's false."

It's important to note that Reagan's tax increases did not wipe out the effects of that initial tax cut. But they did eat up about half of it. And as Peter Beinart points out, the 1983 payroll tax hike went to pay for Social Security and Medicare. ("Reagan raised taxes to pay for government-run health care," Beinart writes.) Reagan also raised the gas tax and signed the largest corporate tax increase in history, an act Joshua Green writes would be "utterly unimaginable for any conservative to support today."


So...yeah, when it comes to increasing tax revenue, Reagan did much of it by raising taxes, and while he did better than Clinton or Bush 43, Obama did even better - and let's not forget that Reagan doubled the deficit and more than tripled the federal debt, while Obama cut the deficit by more than half, even though the overall debt did double. But then, like Cheney said, "Reagan proved that deficits don't matter". I guess that must be why y'all don't have any problem at all with Trump's $1.5T tax cut, with how it WILL blow up our federal deficit.

Man, but I bet y'all do hate it when you have to deal with real, actual numbers!

Rather then argue with the lunatic spin of CBS, I will just happily accept your overall admission that tax revenues did increase under the Reagan tax cuts.....as they did under the JFK tax cuts, and the Bush(W) tax cuts. And it's laughable to claim that Reagan raised revenue through tax increases. That is pure left wing spin. Reagan did close some tax loopholes and made it more difficult to avoid paying taxes, however he did not raise income tax rates. Trump has also closed some loopholes and has stopped the federal government from subsidizing state and local income taxes. That part is delicious. It is mostly the left in the blue states that likes to raise taxes....that is until they can no longer deduct their state and local taxes on their federal returns. Perhaps New York and California liberals may now harbor second thoughts.
 
You don't remember people thinking Obama was going to take guns away? I call bull**** on that. Or else you were sleeping through 2009-2017.

Gun grabbing has never been just about Obama. The far left has always had a goal of ultimately making gun ownership illegal. Obama was only the latest at the time.
 
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