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    GOP poised to win the PR war

    I think the Dems blew it. They did their Chicken Little routine on the tax bill but they lost the message. The GOP has branded this bill as a "tax cut for the middle class" and on the end of the day, more than 80 percent of Americans will see a tax cut their first year. Yeah, some future Congress may allow the individual rates to go up, but it is unlikely. So the Dems who successfully allied with the national media to create the impression that this was only a tax cut for the wealthy may have done a disservice to themselves in the long run. Granted that the wealthy will enjoy six times the benefits as the rest of us combined, but that doesn't make as compelling a soundbyte as "Armageddon!"

    The message could have been on debt, high interest rates, rising inflation, and low wages. Once consumer confidence peaks, reality will likely set in, and the true cost of this bill will not be measured by how much of your paycheck you get to keep, but if your paycheck remains the same wage, buys less than it did before, and is split in more ways to pay down debts. The GOP knows nothing is free, and they are betting that average Americans will forget it and reward them for generously undermining their future to finance a measly middle class tax cut and a massive wealthy tax cut. Let's see how it plays out. My money is on the GOP.
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    Re: GOP poised to win the PR war

    A lot of people are going to pay less taxes. That is how you get votes. You do what you promised.
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    Re: GOP poised to win the PR war

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckiechan View Post
    A lot of people are going to pay less taxes. That is how you get votes. You do what you promised.
    And the debt will rise.

    People do love "free stuff".

    This is the Repub Santa, with 1.5 trillion in presents in his bag. The Repub Grinch will be along in a year or 2 trying to pay for it by stealing from SS and Medicare.

    America is pretty myopic.
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    Re: GOP poised to win the PR war

    The bill was very unpopular. I think Dems won the PR war pretty handily. The PR war doesn't always translate to actual votes on legislation.

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    Re: GOP poised to win the PR war

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckiechan View Post
    A lot of people are going to pay less taxes. That is how you get votes. You do what you promised.

    Really because trump promised he would be a big loser from this tax plan and that the wealthy would not benefit.

    You were conned.

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    I know I won't forget who authored this tax giveaway to the wealthy.

    Their next target is the safety-net programs -- SS, Medicare, Medicaid.

    Polls indicate that Trump/GOP has already lost the younger generation.

    This will ensure they also lose the support of seniors (65+) and the overwhelming number of citizens approaching retirement (55-65).

    10,000 Americans are retiring every day now and this wave will continue for the next 19 years.


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    Re: GOP poised to win the PR war

    Quote Originally Posted by <alt>doxygen View Post
    And the debt will rise.

    People do love "free stuff".

    This is the Repub Santa, with 1.5 trillion in presents in his bag. The Repub Grinch will be along in a year or 2 trying to pay for it by stealing from SS and Medicare.

    America is pretty myopic.
    How will the debt rise?
    Debt is driven by spending.
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    Re: GOP poised to win the PR war

    Quote Originally Posted by GDViking View Post
    Really because trump promised he would be a big loser from this tax plan and that the wealthy would not benefit.

    You were conned.
    Lets see trump owns a lot of high end real estate whose deduct-ability for both taxes and interest has been all but eliminated for his tax return. Meanwhile the Clintons and Obama go on selling influence for a million bucks a speech as Trump takes no salary at all.

    Do you think the Trumps will steal the White House furniture in 7 years as the Clintons did ?

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    Re: GOP poised to win the PR war

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    How will the debt rise?
    Debt is driven by spending.
    Debt will increase because revenue will decrease. So for example, let's say program A cost $10 to operate. If your tax revenues were $10 before the tax cut, you could pay for it without any issues. But now, with the cut, tax revenues will only be $6, so in order to maintain program A, you will have to borrow $4.

    As an alternative to borrowing, the GOP will likely slash and burn such programs to balance the budget.
    If you have to resort to insults, name calling, ad hominem attacks, straw men, red herrings, appeals to authority, and other dirty debate tactics, the veracity of you argument is questionable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Valley View Post
    I know I won't forget who authored this tax giveaway to the wealthy.

    Their next target is the safety-net programs -- SS, Medicare, Medicaid.

    Polls indicate that Trump/GOP has already lost the younger generation.

    This will ensure they also lose the support of seniors (65+) and the overwhelming number of citizens approaching retirement (55-65).

    10,000 Americans are retiring every day now and this wave will continue for the next 19 years.
    What if we closed the departments of education, agriculture, labor, commerce, housing, the EPA the department of energy and closed all our embassies in countries that don't count (Uruguay etc) what if we stopped funding "studies" (welfare for useless academics)

    Would this help us control our deficits?

    Retirement? Easy raise the age to 75 for federal "workers," no one should collect any pension at 55.

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