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Trump considers his own right wing spies

Grand Mal said:
I had to look it up myself. Actually, 'geheime' for 'home' is a pretty good guess.
The whole idea, though, is best described by a pseudo-German word, 'upgefuct'.
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Best one I’ve heard re: torque (as in automotive fasteners,) “How tight, gutentight.” German Torque.
 
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haymarket said:
https://theintercept.com/2017/12/04...-private-spies-to-counter-deep-state-enemies/



If this is true, it should scare the living daylights out of every American. We have official - and I would guess - unofficial people already in place to protect the USA and to gather intelligence on other nations. The idea of creating a Blackwater type private force responsible to Trump is a major step towards lots and lots of dangerous things where nothing good lays at the end of those paths.

This part is ice chilling in its implications for a government within the government responsible only to Trump



This is madness and must be stopped before it ever gets to first base.
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You could at least have been objective enough to include THIS part of that article in your quote, don't you think?

“I can find no evidence that this ever came to the attention of anyone at the NSC or [White House] at all,” wrote Michael N. Anton, a spokesperson for the National Security Council, in an email. “The White House does not and would not support such a proposal.” But a current U.S. intelligence official appeared to contradict that assertion, stating that the various proposals were first pitched at the White House before being delivered to the CIA. The Intercept reached out to several senior officials that sources said had been briefed on the plans by Prince, including Vice President Mike Pence. His spokesperson wrote there was “no record of [Prince] ever having met with or briefed the VP.” North did not respond to a request for comment.

According to two former senior intelligence officials, Pompeo has embraced the plan and lobbied the White House to approve the contract. Asked for comment, a CIA spokesperson said, “You have been provided wildly inaccurate information by people peddling an agenda.”
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Kind of makes me wonder who these "several current and former U.S. intelligence officials and others" are and where their political biases lie.

Bottom line: Fake News
 
Mycroft said:
You could at least have been objective enough to include THIS part of that article in your quote, don't you think?
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This site places a limitation on how much of an article can be reproduced.

I provided the link so you can read it all.
 
haymarket said:
This site places a limitation on how much of an article can be reproduced.

I provided the link so you can read it all.
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No problem...I got you covered.
 
apdst said:
It dawned on me today why the Libbos are so hot-n-bothered to get President Trump removed from office. They're afraid he might win in 2020. Can you imagine the meltdown if they lose to him, twice?
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Oh God. Certainly they can't get any more rabid with TDS than they are now! But, it is actually very possible that Trump could win again in 2020. In fact, there are a few different scenarios for this.
 
haymarket said:
So go ahead and explain it then. Begin with his post replying to me where he talked about Mueller.... here it is for you to make it easy



then tell me what that has to do with the post I made starting this thread which has nothing to do with the Mueller investigation.
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He's already tried explaining. Your door is closed.
 
Moderate Right said:
Oh God. Certainly they can't get any more rabid with TDS than they are now! But, it is actually very possible that Trump could win again in 2020. In fact, there are a few different scenarios for this.
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I don't think we've seen anything, yet.
 
apdst said:
Perhaps this should motivate you to question the conduct of Mueller's anti-Trump team.
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Trump being upset because his cronies are in trouble for colluding with enemies of the United States and wanting his own private SS knockoff is rather telling, yes.
 
Tigerace117 said:
Trump being upset because his cronies are in trouble for colluding with enemies of the United States and wanting his own private SS knockoff is rather telling, yes.
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Evidence?
 
Tigerace117 said:
Dozens of threads on this websites, the actions of people like Manafort and Flynn, the ongoing investigations, etc.
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Not one person has been charged with being in cahoots with the Russians.
 
haymarket said:
Actually, no rational explanation was offered. But feel free to prove me wrong by citing it.
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That's exactly it. The only thing you consider to be rational are your own biased ideas. As I said, your door is closed to everything but your own preconceived biases.
 
apdst said:
Not one person has been charged with being in cahoots with the Russians.
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That tends to be because investigators tend to by through and make sure they've got all of the perps before they start charging people.
 
Tigerace117 said:
That tends to be because investigators tend to by through and make sure they've got all of the perps before they start charging people.
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That doesn't make any sense. You realize that, right?
 
apdst said:
That doesn't make any sense. You realize that, right?
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Do you not know anything about investigations? There's no point in only charging one or two people in a case where far more are involved in.
 
Tigerace117 said:
Do you not know anything about investigations? There's no point in only charging one or two people in a case where far more are involved in.
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Then why have they charged four people? Because the witch hunt is over?
 
apdst said:
Then why have they charged four people? Because the witch hunt is over?
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It's no more a "witch hunt" than the search for Soviet spies during the Cold War was a "witch hunt". Then again, I suppose I'm not surprised Trumo supporters are totally unconcerned with the concept of making the country secure.
 
Moderate Right said:
That's exactly it. The only thing you consider to be rational are your own biased ideas. As I said, your door is closed to everything but your own preconceived biases.
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It's denial. They don't even want to think of having to run someone against President Trump, much less think about him winning
 
Tigerace117 said:
It's no more a "witch hunt" than the search for Soviet spies during the Cold War was a "witch hunt". Then again, I suppose I'm not surprised Trumo supporters are totally unconcerned with the concept of making the country secure.
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How is charging Manafort with money laundering going to make the country more secure?
 
Moderate Right said:
That's exactly it. The only thing you consider to be rational are your own biased ideas. As I said, your door is closed to everything but your own preconceived biases.
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Your failure to present any sort of a case speaks volumes about the correctness of my observation. Attacking me is NOT debate.
 
Tigerace117 said:
Do you not know anything about investigations? There's no point in only charging one or two people in a case where far more are involved in.
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With Democrats, it's a bunch of pleading the fifths and so immunity deals that by the end there isn't anyone left to charge with anything.
 
haymarket said:
Your failure to present any sort of a case speaks volumes about the correctness of my observation. Attacking me is NOT debate.
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I'm sorry. I didn't realize you were debating.
 
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