Is there any issue liberals care about as much as conservatives care about abortion?

After seeing the aftermath in Alabama and knowing that conservatives are willing to vote for a likely child molester over a liberal, I think we have to acknowledge that abortion is what is really driving the animosity. A lot of good people are willing to ignore quite a bit so that they can show up to vote for Moore. It makes me wonder if there is a liberal equivalent. Is there anything conservatives support that liberals would choose to vote for a liberal, child molester over a decent conservative candidate?

CriticalThought said:

After seeing the aftermath in Alabama and knowing that conservatives are willing to vote for a likely child molester over a liberal, I think we have to acknowledge that abortion is what is really driving the animosity. A lot of good people are willing to ignore quite a bit so that they can show up to vote for Moore. It makes me wonder if there is a liberal equivalent. Is there anything conservatives support that liberals would choose to vote for a liberal, child molester over a decent conservative candidate?

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Nah I don't think it's abortion. I think it's partisan BS. They don't want to lose Alabama under any circumstances. That would have to force them to actually re-think some of their beliefs.

Based on the discussions I've had on here and elsewhere on the internet, the fever about Net Neutrality comes to mind. You are not allowed to be against it. In reality outside of the internet and the telecom industry, no one cares. It's sort of the opposite situation in Alabama though. You aren't supposed to be voting for a pedophile, but many are.

It's Partisan Tribal Theory at the extreme, on both sides. I've lived a lot of decades. Never seen anything like it.

CriticalThought said:

After seeing the aftermath in Alabama and knowing that conservatives are willing to vote for a likely child molester over a liberal, I think we have to acknowledge that abortion is what is really driving the animosity. A lot of good people are willing to ignore quite a bit so that they can show up to vote for Moore. It makes me wonder if there is a liberal equivalent. Is there anything conservatives support that liberals would choose to vote for a liberal, child molester over a decent conservative candidate?

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You liberals voted for a rapist - Bill Clinton. So congratulations!

Logicman said:

You liberals voted for a rapist - Bill Clinton. So congratulations!

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Boooring! Whataboutism.

Are you saying you now aspire to be like the worst of liberals?

I am too young to have voted for Bill Clinton and didn't those accusations come out after he won his second term?

Liberals===> guns and racism.

CriticalThought said:

After seeing the aftermath in Alabama and knowing that conservatives are willing to vote for a likely child molester over a liberal, I think we have to acknowledge that abortion is what is really driving the animosity. A lot of good people are willing to ignore quite a bit so that they can show up to vote for Moore. It makes me wonder if there is a liberal equivalent. Is there anything conservatives support that liberals would choose to vote for a liberal, child molester over a decent conservative candidate?

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I've been pretty clear that Moore is a sex abuser, and yeah, this is the one justification I can understand for voting for him.

If you are in favor of child-murder, then there is no other issue you can share with me that can make me support you having power :shrug:

For others trying to understand,

Candidate A believes everything you believe, and seems a genuinely likeable fellow (or gal). Except for the one issue wherein Candidate A doesn't think blacks are people, wants to re-institute slavery, and thinks we should be able to kill them and take their stuff as we please.

Can you vote for Candidate A?

DiAnna said:

It's Partisan Tribal Theory at the extreme, on both sides. I've lived a lot of decades. Never seen anything like it.

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I think there is a lot of that, but I think that the two (honest belief one has to make a painful choice and partisan tribalism) feed into each other. My bet would be that, if Doug Jones were a moderate on Abortion (say, favoring restrictions at the point of pain), or even pro-life, you'd see large swathes of folks cross sides to vote against Moore in disgust. But without that option, they instead feel they have to defend the team they are "stuck" on, and so today they are insisting it's-all-a-conspiracy.

CriticalThought said:

Is there anything conservatives support that liberals would choose to vote for a liberal, child molester over a decent conservative candidate?

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I can think of a couple of sexual predators Democrats kept voting for, offhand. So the test is apparently "Not Being A Republican".

CriticalThought said:

After seeing the aftermath in Alabama and knowing that conservatives are willing to vote for a likely child molester over a liberal, I think we have to acknowledge that abortion is what is really driving the animosity. A lot of good people are willing to ignore quite a bit so that they can show up to vote for Moore. It makes me wonder if there is a liberal equivalent. Is there anything conservatives support that liberals would choose to vote for a liberal, child molester over a decent conservative candidate?

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It hasn’t been about abortion since roe v wade, the current issue is who has to pay for it. You would have never heard the name Roy Moore if people paid for their own abortions, and birth control.

CriticalThought said:

After seeing the aftermath in Alabama and knowing that conservatives are willing to vote for a likely child molester over a liberal, I think we have to acknowledge that abortion is what is really driving the animosity. A lot of good people are willing to ignore quite a bit so that they can show up to vote for Moore. It makes me wonder if there is a liberal equivalent. Is there anything conservatives support that liberals would choose to vote for a liberal, child molester over a decent conservative candidate?

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The issue with the "child molester vs a liberal" line is that it is safe to assume that if he were to push legislation for lowering the age of consent or lesser sentences for pedophiles it would be shot down so it would be moot, however by electing the Democrat on issues that are likely to pass you just elected someone that will be voting against your interests. This to me is what separates this situation from Trump/Hillary, I couldn't stomach voting for Trump and while I am not a fan of Roy Moore if I had lived in Alabama I would have likely voted for him out of necessity. The best thing he could have done for the people of Alabama was make it clear that if he won he would immediately resign so that Rs could have held the seat. The fact that they backed him at the end was incredibly stupid.