WATCH OUT FOR Mike Pompeo

Rich123 said:

October 24/2017 the CIA director had a one hour meeting with William Binney who has made numerous appearances on the Russian owned network RT professing a conspiracy that the DNC hacked themselves. Director Pompeo had this meeting with Binney as the director said,"The president told me I should talk with you." It should always be a great concern to Americans who understand that the policies and actions of our Central Intelligence Agency must be NON POLITICAL and TOTALLY AUTONOMOUS. It would seem that the given statement that the director said to Binney as to why the meeting should occur suggest something other than an autonomous and non political agency.

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upsideguy said:

The scary thing is that Pompeo showed himself to be a 'yes man' here. Even Sessions did the right thing when confronted with such an issue. Trump clearly is in over his head. The last thing our nation needs is 'yes man' carrying out is incoherent and often dangerous policies and whims. The child needs adult supervision at all times.

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DaveFagan said:

Binney was a head of NSA. He set up much of the survelllance on US citizens and has broad expertise regarding all things computer. Binney says the DNC leak was a local download to a flash drive or similar device directly attached because the speed of the transfer was too fast for Internet download.
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Rich123 said:

October 24/2017 the CIA director had a one hour meeting with William Binney who has made numerous appearances on the Russian owned network RT professing a conspiracy that the DNC hacked themselves. Director Pompeo had this meeting with Binney as the director said,"The president told me I should talk with you." It should always be a great concern to Americans who understand that the policies and actions of our Central Intelligence Agency must be NON POLITICAL and TOTALLY AUTONOMOUS. It would seem that the given statement that the director said to Binney as to why the meeting should occur suggest something other than an autonomous and non political agency.

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upsideguy said:

Ah, no! Binney was never head of anything and has been out of the agency for 17 years.

He is not in a position to be a particularly credible about current intelligence. He is now considered a "whistleblower". His thoughts and comments have been consistently out of the mainstream. He was not worthy of Pompeo's time. Only because Pompeo's boss happens to get his news from Alex Jones, Brietbart and RT did this guy get a hearing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Binney_(U.S._intelligence_official)

My point is that Pompeo showed real weakness in not just ignoring Trump on this one....

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CIA Director Mike Pompeo declared Thursday that U.S. intelligence agencies determined that Russia’s interference in the 2016 American presidential election did not alter the outcome, a statement that distorted spy agency findings.

“The intelligence community’s assessment is that the Russian meddling that took place did not affect the outcome of the election,” Pompeo said at a security conference in Washington.

His comment suggested — falsely — that a report released by U.S. intelligence agencies in January had ruled out any impact that could be attributed to a covert Russian interference campaign that involved leaks of tens of thousands of stolen emails, the flooding of social media sites with false claims and the purchase of ads on Facebook.

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DaveFagan said:

My point was the technical reality!
"Binney says the DNC leak was a local download to a flash drive or similar device directly attached because the speed of the transfer was too fast for Internet download.". Would you care to respond to that? It's hard proof, not theory.
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DaveFagan said:

Binney was a head of NSA. He set up much of the survelllance on US citizens and has broad expertise regarding all things computer. Binney says the DNC leak was a local download to a flash drive or similar device directly attached because the speed of the transfer was too fast for Internet download.
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Oreo said:

Yes it is a worry, but if Pompeo tries to interfere into Mueller's investigation--by not releasing intelligence it's going to be blasted all over the media in a loop 24/7--and others within the CIA will leak to the media what he is trying to withhold. They won't let him get away with it.

So if Pompeo has any brains--he'll give Mueller anything he wants. If he doesn't, he himself would be obstructing justice.

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DaveFagan said:

My point was the technical reality!
"Binney says the DNC leak was a local download to a flash drive or similar device directly attached because the speed of the transfer was too fast for Internet download.". Would you care to respond to that? It's hard proof, not theory.
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Two of the nation's former top intelligence officials expressed surprise and dismay Wednesday that President Donald Trump prevailed upon CIA Director Mike Pompeo to meet with a former National Security Agency employee turned whistleblower who denies Russia interfered in the US election.
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Both retired Gen. Michael Hayden, the former director of the CIA and National Security Agency under President George W. Bush, and retired Gen. James Clapper, the former director of National Intelligence under President Barack Obama, wondered in interviews with CNN why Trump had asked Pompeo to meet with William Binney, who circulated the conspiracy theory, instead of his Director of National Intelligence, Dan Coats.
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"Why did the President turn to the CIA director rather than the DNI?" Hayden asked. "Structurally, this should have been a DNI question since the Binney article challenged an overall community assessment."

Clapper said that "this episode, I think, adds to the image (perhaps unjustifiably) that Pompeo is a political activist, as a 'go-to' guy for Trump." Clapper added that this is "not a good place for a director of the CIA to be."
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"I suspect that this is something that Director Pompeo never wanted to do," Hayden said. "He had to have been pushed" by Trump to have this meeting.
Clapper agreed. "I would imagine, given the length of time the President bugged Pompeo, that he saw him reluctantly."

The reluctance would have been understandable, Hayden added, speculating that Pompeo "understood how it would be viewed by intelligence professionals. All bad. At least the agency restated its commitment to the standing intel community judgement."
Hayden added that the CIA director had to have known that "there would be an internal price and Binney would never keep it quiet."
"The President's insistence that he pursue such an obviously weak argument suggests a grasping at straws here," Hayden concluded.
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Rich123 said:

That's Binney's position but I don't know that it's been proven.

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We have also learned since publication, from longtime VIPS member Thomas Drake, that there is a dispute among VIPS members themselves about the July 24 memo. This is not the first time a VIPS report has been internally disputed, but it is the first time one has been released over the substantive objections of several VIPS members. With that in mind, we asked Drake and those VIPS members who agree with him to present their dissenting view. We also asked VIPS members who stand by their report to respond.
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The heart of the VIPS memo centers on two statements that relate to an alleged “Guccifer 2.0” cyber-attack against the Democratic National Committee (DNC):
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the conclusion that the DNC data was copied onto a storage device at a speed that far exceeds an Internet capability for a remote hack. Of equal importance, the forensics show that the copying was performed on the East coast of the U.S
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The third-party analysis of the “Guccifer 2.0” claims (including from Adam Carter and the Forensicator) analyzed in the VIPS memo directly contradict these conclusions (while raising legitimate questions), but the VIPS memo asserts as a “slam dunk” fact the categorical conclusion of a local leak that is not supported by the third-party analysis either. There is also no evidence from the available metadata that can definitively state when the transfer or copying of the data took place, nor does the data prove that “Guccifer 2.0” had direct access to the DNC server or that the data was located on the DNC system when it was allegedly copied on July 5, 2016.
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If we understand this sentence correctly, and the “third-party” analysis refers to the Forensicator, this assertion is wrong. From the data given, the analysis does support the conclusion, as it demonstrates that the Internet on July 5, 2016, could not support such an international hack.

In the words of the memo:

There is also no evidence from the available metadata that can definitively state when the transfer or copying of the data took place, nor does the data prove that “Guccifer 2.0” had direct access to the DNC server or that the data was located on the DNC system when it was allegedly copied on July 5, 2016.
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Rich123 said:

October 24/2017 the CIA director had a one hour meeting with William Binney who has made numerous appearances on the Russian owned network RT professing a conspiracy that the DNC hacked themselves. Director Pompeo had this meeting with Binney as the director said,"The president told me I should talk with you." It should always be a great concern to Americans who understand that the policies and actions of our Central Intelligence Agency must be NON POLITICAL and TOTALLY AUTONOMOUS. It would seem that the given statement that the director said to Binney as to why the meeting should occur suggest something other than an autonomous and non political agency.

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