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The face of the modern liberal

In other words a perfect example of a Republican.
Meh, wasn't always that way. Though you'd have to really reach to say you're in ethical support of the Party today.

But there were principled Conservatives in the GOP, before. And in our forum, too. But many have left. I haven't seen posts from peeps like Tres Borrachos and Cpwill in quite a while. And political differences aside, I always enjoyed my discussions with them and others like them, and respected their intelligence, prowess, honesty in debate, and appearance of integrity.

I suspect individuals like that are not thrilled with their Republican Party today, if indeed they are still members of it. Of course I long ago left the Dems. It's not a good time to claim you're the member of one of the two dominate parties, if you'd like to hold your head up with respect.
 
That doesn't seem to be what your thread title implies.

To be fair, technically not all on the Left are neo-liberal. So his statement that he wasn't smearing the entire left is true. :p

EDIT: The thread title at least.
 
Meh, wasn't always that way. Though you'd have to really reach to say you're in ethical support of the Party today.

But there were principled Conservatives in the GOP, before. And in our forum, too. But many have left. I haven't seen posts from peeps like Tres Borrachos and Cpwill in quite a while. And political differences aside, I always enjoyed my discussions with them and others like them, and respected their intelligence, prowess, honesty in debate, and appearance of integrity.

I suspect individuals like that are not thrilled with their Republican Party today, if indeed they are still members of it. Of course I long ago left the Dems. It's not a good time to claim you're the member of one of the two dominate parties, if you'd like to hold your head up with respect.



Still on my friends list. I knew some people disappeared but not how many, you see to have a better handle on that.

We can only assume that their hearts couldn't allow them to criticize Republicans, and could no longer defend their actions.

Which points to a difference between US and Canada. Here, very few people are a member of a political party, but on the voter's list. Ergo changes of government when the political wind shifts, as caused by the concerns and needs of a majority...or when they piss us off.

It would be surprising to you how many times governments change their intentions because of push back. That great "undecided bock" can be its own "silent majority". When Harper's stingy old white guys went down in defeat they had the largest party in Canada, three times the Greens and a war chest that allowed them to spend, spend, spend. And they did. Which was both too little too late and too much. They were behind in the polls going in, but almost all governments are, the campaign swings it back again.

What they did not see was the unusually large sector of the country who had come into their own in the years Harper was in office, just how pissed off was that undeclared block and how motivated they are. But what makes for laughs is that the Liberals, in winning had stolen the usual place where the Socialist NDP resides and crushed them even in the cities.

There, there seems to be little middle ground in the voters or the parties
 
Still on my friends list. I knew some people disappeared but not how many, you see to have a better handle on that.

We can only assume that their hearts couldn't allow them to criticize Republicans, and could no longer defend their actions.

Which points to a difference between US and Canada. Here, very few people are a member of a political party, but on the voter's list. Ergo changes of government when the political wind shifts, as caused by the concerns and needs of a majority...or when they piss us off.

It would be surprising to you how many times governments change their intentions because of push back. That great "undecided bock" can be its own "silent majority". When Harper's stingy old white guys went down in defeat they had the largest party in Canada, three times the Greens and a war chest that allowed them to spend, spend, spend. And they did. Which was both too little too late and too much. They were behind in the polls going in, but almost all governments are, the campaign swings it back again.

What they did not see was the unusually large sector of the country who had come into their own in the years Harper was in office, just how pissed off was that undeclared block and how motivated they are. But what makes for laughs is that the Liberals, in winning had stolen the usual place where the Socialist NDP resides and crushed them even in the cities.

There, there seems to be little middle ground in the voters or the parties
I probably told you before, but lately there's times I wish we had a parliamentarian system of governance. It seems more likely stuff gets done, cross-alliances are formed, and minority parties and voices have a seat at the table - even while they may not dominate.

But then I'm looking from the outside in, and perhaps the grass always seems greener ...
 
I probably told you before, but lately there's times I wish we had a parliamentarian system of governance. It seems more likely stuff gets done, cross-alliances are formed, and minority parties and voices have a seat at the table - even while they may not dominate.

But then I'm looking from the outside in, and perhaps the grass always seems greener ...

The view is far more accurate than that of most Americans, who can't seem to fathom our prime minister has to win his own riding to get in. Making him much more approachable. I lived with a California woman during an election in the 80's where prime Minister John Turner was running where we lived. As it happened when they made a highly visual visit knocking on doors, two things happened after I said yes to meeting him. The first was the look on Turner's face when he realized the guy who opened the door was a television reporter, who was also recognized by the cameras following him, expecting something. The second thing was what became the story, my girlfriend a cardiac care and former emergency room nurse uttered a school girl shriek and stuttered "you really are the prime minister!" and later told my colleagues that something like that would never happen in the US and thought I was kidding.

Obviously the government is far more accessible to the public...and far more responsive especially now with five parties, people are willing to "experiment" with their traditional voting pattern. It is not a perfect system, at one time and still is to a certain degree that governments need only win the most seats in Ontario and Quebec, ignoring the west.
Within a decade that led to the formation of the "Reform Party" lead by the best prime minister Canada never had, a cross between Ross Perot and Mr. Rogers. That split the right, unintentionally as it was not a right wing platform, and further alienated the west. By the late 90's we were openly talking about separating from Canada (easy for BC and Alberta as they never signed the original "Upper Canada Agreement". That led to a tumult within the now "united right" as Stockwell Day retired to the night being replaced by Calgary born policy geek with the personality of wallpaper, Stephen Harper.

We have him three minority governments in five years before entrusting them with a majority. The gave up governing to the middle and came to believe, as all governments do, they were invulnerable. They insulted Candians by bragging about a $2.8 billion *surplus* when we see need all around us. He was not given a second term as they fought he wrong enemy with the wrong weapons, and the "Natural Governing Party", the Liberals did what they always do and stole a platform, this time from the NDP left who had, like the Conservatives, believed the bull**** about austerity.

They discovered the hard way what any veteran poll could have told them, and perhaps did. Canadians are humble people, bragging about a fat bank account while people are dying by the 100's from the worst drug epidemic in history simply won't do. That this past vote was a youth vote who voted for their children's future and supporting and expanding Canada's social safety net. The government nearing on two years still has a 55-60% rating.

So yes, we can change governments easier than the US system and I believe we will see more and more minority governments when either unofficial or official coalitions are formed, and should that happen I predict the Conservative Party will slowly fade away
 
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