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    What is really behind the hatred of the President?

    I see it. I recognize it. It is prevalent everywhere--among the Democrats in Congress and some Republicans, in the mainstream media, on social media, on message boards, etc. The President is stupid, ugly, hateful, racist, bigoted, sexist, inappropriate, arrogant, dangerous, etc. etc. etc. etc.

    I get it.

    But where is that coming from really?

    Do all those people really believe Hillary was the better choice and think if they can destroy Trump they'll get somebody they can approve of? Or are they too partisan to see any positives in any conservative?

    Do they get some kind of emotional satisfaction in singling out somebody to hate? Is using ugly imagery or 'clever' derogatory terms to describe him recreation for them?

    Do they think they look smart by dismissing all evidence to the contrary and continuing to recite the talking points to describe him as terrible, unacceptable even when it is intellectually dishonest to do so?

    Do they have no sense of justice or fair play when they are unwilling to acknowledge what was actually said or done and instead spin the accurate statement/situation into something they can attack?

    Is it impossible for them to see it any other way than from a highly prejudiced and biased leftist point of view?

    Is it so impossible to support his idea or work with him to accomplish something good? How do rational people deal with such obvious fear that he might get credit for something good?

    And finally. . .

    Is it possible to have a discussion about this in a civil, intelligent, philosophical manner that isn't derailed and destroyed by sound bites and other trollish methods?

    So from your best rational perspective, what is behind the hatred of President Donald J. Trump?
    Whatever flaws or failings, I can support the sinner who gets it right in the end over the virtuous saint who doesn't have a clue how to get it done.
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    Re: What is really behind the hatred of the President?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    I see it. I recognize it. It is prevalent everywhere--among the Democrats in Congress and some Republicans, in the mainstream media, on social media, on message boards, etc. The President is stupid, ugly, hateful, racist, bigoted, sexist, inappropriate, arrogant, dangerous, etc. etc. etc. etc.

    I get it.

    But where is that coming from really?

    Do all those people really believe Hillary was the better choice and think if they can destroy Trump they'll get somebody they can approve of? Or are they too partisan to see any positives in any conservative?

    Do they get some kind of emotional satisfaction in singling out somebody to hate? Is using ugly imagery or 'clever' derogatory terms to describe him recreation for them?

    Do they think they look smart by dismissing all evidence to the contrary and continuing to recite the talking points to describe him as terrible, unacceptable even when it is intellectually dishonest to do so?

    Do they have no sense of justice or fair play when they are unwilling to acknowledge what was actually said or done and instead spin the accurate statement/situation into something they can attack?

    Is it impossible for them to see it any other way than from a highly prejudiced and biased leftist point of view?

    Is it so impossible to support his idea or work with him to accomplish something good? How do rational people deal with such obvious fear that he might get credit for something good?

    And finally. . .

    Is it possible to have a discussion about this in a civil, intelligent, philosophical manner that isn't derailed and destroyed by sound bites and other trollish methods?

    So from your best rational perspective, what is behind the hatred of President Donald J. Trump?
    Hillary lost. Along with Hillary, the left lost. 70 years of marching toward the goal of total government control gone in 3 hours. That's gotta hurt.

    Without anything else, the only focal point must be Trump.

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    Re: What is really behind the hatred of the President?

    Poor Don, he's such a snowflake, like many of his syncophants. Don generated all kinds of hate before he ever got into the political arena based upon the lies of birtherism and accusing Ted Cruz's father of involvement in the Kennedy assassination. Anyone who realizes Don is full of **** hates him? Nah, he's just a whiney little bitch. Like you.
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    Re: What is really behind the hatred of the President?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    I see it. I recognize it. It is prevalent everywhere--among the Democrats in Congress and some Republicans, in the mainstream media, on social media, on message boards, etc. The President is stupid, ugly, hateful, racist, bigoted, sexist, inappropriate, arrogant, dangerous, etc. etc. etc. etc.

    I get it.

    But where is that coming from really?

    Do all those people really believe Hillary was the better choice and think if they can destroy Trump they'll get somebody they can approve of? Or are they too partisan to see any positives in any conservative?

    Do they get some kind of emotional satisfaction in singling out somebody to hate? Is using ugly imagery or 'clever' derogatory terms to describe him recreation for them?

    Do they think they look smart by dismissing all evidence to the contrary and continuing to recite the talking points to describe him as terrible, unacceptable even when it is intellectually dishonest to do so?

    Do they have no sense of justice or fair play when they are unwilling to acknowledge what was actually said or done and instead spin the accurate statement/situation into something they can attack?

    Is it impossible for them to see it any other way than from a highly prejudiced and biased leftist point of view?

    Is it so impossible to support his idea or work with him to accomplish something good? How do rational people deal with such obvious fear that he might get credit for something good?

    And finally. . .

    Is it possible to have a discussion about this in a civil, intelligent, philosophical manner that isn't derailed and destroyed by sound bites and other trollish methods?

    So from your best rational perspective, what is behind the hatred of President Donald J. Trump?
    Hillary Clinton embodied the self-entitled victim-blaming obtuse liar who hates America. For liberals its a critical wound. Rarely has someone epitomized the depravity of liberalism like Hillary and she lost. Liberals who want to destroy the foundation of this country lost their champion. They lost their chance to erode the cornerstone of world freedom and democracy and they may never have a chance to openly embrace someone as evil as she again. They aren't a movement. They're a group of cultists.
    Trump Attacked A Syrian Airfield. Trump will be a one-term president.

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    Re: What is really behind the hatred of the President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton Lum View Post
    Poor Don, he's such a snowflake, like many of his syncophants. Don generated all kinds of hate before he ever got into the political arena based upon the lies of birtherism and accusing Tad Cruz's father of involvement in the Kennedy assassination. Anyone who realizes Don is full of **** hates him? Nah, he's just a whiney little bitch. Like you.
    Yep. Good illustration of the kind of angry, hateful, petty, mindless tripe we are getting re the President and anybody who defends him in anything these days.

    Now, do you have anything to add to the discussion?
    Whatever flaws or failings, I can support the sinner who gets it right in the end over the virtuous saint who doesn't have a clue how to get it done.
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    Re: What is really behind the hatred of the President?

    It's because we're exhausted from the never ending onslaught of outright stupidity, ignorance on the issues and unbelievably childish behavior from Donald. The guy can't go 5 minutes without shooting himself in the dick politically and proving to everyone he's not equipped for the job he was elected for. Trump is burning bridges with our allies and enemies alike and making it embarrassing to be an American. This is not normal partisan politics. I didn't agree with either of the Bush's or Reagan, but they were at least rational adults that attempted to look out what's best for Americans and in that regard I respected them as our duly elected leaders.

    I think that if after 18 months of daily shenanigans from Trump you're still completely baffled as to why most Americans loathe him, we should be worried about you and your observational abilities. Trump is completely unpalatable to anyone but his most feverish supporters and the real Americans are sick of it. This is NOT normal.

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    Re: What is really behind the hatred of the President?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    Yep. Good illustration of the kind of angry, hateful, petty, mindless tripe we are getting re the President and anybody who defends him in anything these days.

    Now, do you have anything to add to the discussion?
    Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn Don is what he is; people are free to make their own assessments. He can't control that, yet.
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    Re: What is really behind the hatred of the President?

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Hillary Clinton embodied the self-entitled victim-blaming obtuse liar who hates America. For liberals its a critical wound. Rarely has someone epitomized the depravity of liberalism like Hillary and she lost. Liberals who want to destroy the foundation of this country lost their champion. They lost their chance to erode the cornerstone of world freedom and democracy and they may never have a chance to openly embrace someone as evil as she again. They aren't a movement. They're a group of cultists.
    She's a corporatist, just like Don, your donor class always has it covered "either" way, you always wind up with a white house populated by Goldman Sachs, same as it ever was.

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    Re: What is really behind the hatred of the President?

    This is another example of the tried and true Conservative tactic of 'never defend, always attack'!!

    Trump has insulted every group except his rabid nationalist base, he's called people names, called POW's losers, made fun of people's looks, mocked the handicapped, lied daily, and pissed of some of our Allies. I can go on, but the list is too long.

    But none of that matters, the question is: Why don't people like Trump and why is he being criticized?? lol Don't acknowledge that many of Trump's problems and criticisms against him are of his own doing. Nope, lets exclusively blame the people who criticize him!!

    Ok, my answer: I have no idea.. All of his classlessness, insults and lies don't matter. The guy's a peach and a wonderful human being.
    “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”
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    Re: What is really behind the hatred of the President?

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Hillary Clinton embodied the self-entitled victim-blaming obtuse liar who hates America. For liberals its a critical wound. Rarely has someone epitomized the depravity of liberalism like Hillary and she lost. Liberals who want to destroy the foundation of this country lost their champion. They lost their chance to erode the cornerstone of world freedom and democracy and they may never have a chance to openly embrace someone as evil as she again. They aren't a movement. They're a group of cultists.
    I get it that the left were bitterly disappoint when Trump won. I felt the same way when Obama won the second time. In the first term, I gave him the full benefit of the doubt until he proved he didn't deserve my support. And then I was so hopeful we would get Romney who I didn't like all that much but who I still believe would have started turning things around and would have done some good things for the country. So I was bitterly disappointed when Obama won re-election after giving us so many reasons that he shouldn't be re-elected. I understand the disappointment. But I have tried hard never to criticize President Obama for anything he didn't actually do. I have defended President Obama when I thought people on the right were being hatefully cruel and/or accused him of something he didn't deserve.

    And for the left, Trump wasn't supposed to happen. The pollsters had assured them it wasn't going to happen. It was Hillary's turn. Many didn't like her all that much but at least she was one of THEM. And it was taken away from her. And them. I appreciate that.

    But I don't understand people who would rather see the country fail than to help President Trump get anything done. Who target him for some of the most hateful and dishonest attacks I have EVER seen launched against a person.

    I do not understand that kind of hatred.
    Whatever flaws or failings, I can support the sinner who gets it right in the end over the virtuous saint who doesn't have a clue how to get it done.
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