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Kelly Press Conference and Trump's Phone call

Praxas said:
I do, you don't. You're just repeating something to try and troll with.
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Okay. Enough. You're obviously too nervous or embarrassed or something.

The Congresswoman claimed he said "he knew what he signed up for, but I guess it still hurt."
It was reported by CNN that Trump said ... "he knew what he signed up for ... but when it happens, it hurts anyway,"


Now ... be honest ... all you knew was "he knew what he signed up for" ... right? And that was the springboard and all you cared about, right?
 
bubbabgone said:
Okay. Enough. You're obviously too nervous or embarrassed or something.

The Congresswoman claimed he said "he knew what he signed up for, but I guess it still hurt."
It was reported by CNN that Trump said ... "he knew what he signed up for ... but when it happens, it hurts anyway,"


Now ... be honest ... all you knew was "he knew what he signed up for" ... right? And that was the springboard and all you cared about, right?
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Nope I knew the whole sentence, just as you acted like you didn't know. That is STILL not something you say to a grieving widow. You thank them for their family member's service, comfort them, but that is not a comment you comfort someone with.

Now be honest, no matter what Trump said, you would defend him right?
 
Praxas said:
Nope I knew the whole sentence, just as you acted like you didn't know. That is STILL not something you say to a grieving widow. You thank them for their family member's service, comfort them, but that is not a comment you comfort someone with.

Now be honest, no matter what Trump said, you would defend him right?
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Nope ... See? I'm not like that. I just see what's going on. From 2 days ago ...
bubbabgone said:
That was Trump's big mistake here. He should never have brought up what he or other Presidents did or didn't do. It was a challenge to every news organization to dig up examples that show he was wrong.
When they went into the different versions of what he told the wife it seemed like just another effort to pile on without evidence that left everyone to choose sides and insist there was/was not any difference.
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Now ... did you know that the Cowgirl changed her story after Trump said she made up her quote?
First she said what I quoted then when she went on her media tour she changed it to CNN's Trump quote after she got called on it.
So Trump was right that she made up the quote.
But Wilson has to stick to her story anyway so she keeps saying it was disrespectful.
And she had to shorten the quote out of context to try to make that work.
Now that you know the chronology of what was said do you still admire Wilson and say that it was disrespectful of Trump?
Kelly said no but she still says yes and now she's giving Kelly **** for challenging her.
That doesn't suggest anything to you about Wilson and her motivation.
What makes you keep saying the entire quote was disrespectful?
 
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bubbabgone said:
What makes you keep saying the entire quote was disrespectful?
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You don't comfort a grieving widow like that and I didn't say the comment was disrespectful, his comments were disingenuous. I said him politicizing that other presidents didn't do something (which they did) to try and make himself look good was disrespectful. After a family member, who was a police officer, was killed they didn't come to the house and say "He knew what he signed up for, but it still hurts anyway." Seriously, who does that? Maybe later after some months or years, but you don't console a widow by saying that sorry. Trump should have definitely known better. He talks the big talk about supporting the military but when it comes down to it, he simply doesn't really care.
 
Praxas said:
You don't comfort a grieving widow like that and I didn't say the comment was disrespectful, his comments were disingenuous. I said him politicizing that other presidents didn't do something (which they did) to try and make himself look good was disrespectful. After a family member, who was a police officer, was killed they didn't come to the house and say "He knew what he signed up for, but it still hurts anyway." Seriously, who does that? Maybe later after some months or years, but you don't console a widow by saying that sorry. Trump should have definitely known better. He talks the big talk about supporting the military but when it comes down to it, he simply doesn't really care.
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He didn't say what you just wrote. Might as well be accurate.
So if Trump had said "Like everyone in the military, they know the risk they take when they enlist, but when the worst happens that doesn't prevent the pain anyway."
That would have been disrespectful because it's not your idea of consolation?
It was Kelly's idea of consolation and I bet it's the same for most military families.
 
bubbabgone said:
He didn't say what you just wrote. Might as well be accurate.
So if Trump had said "Like everyone in the military, they know the risk they take when they enlist, but when the worst happens that doesn't prevent the pain anyway."
That would have been disrespectful because it's not your idea of consolation?
It was Kelly's idea of consolation and I bet it's the same for most military families.
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Yes it would have. That's my opinion and having seen both family members and friends who have had close ones get killed that isn't the way they were consoled nor would it have been respectful to mention anything about "they knew the risk" or "they knew what they signed up for" or any variation of that as the initial consoling. Trump and Trump supporters are just heartless.
 
Praxas said:
Nope I knew the whole sentence, just as you acted like you didn't know. That is STILL not something you say to a grieving widow. You thank them for their family member's service, comfort them, but that is not a comment you comfort someone with.
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You know that is something you don't say to a grieving widow? How many grieving widows have you spoken to? What is it that is offensive in his comment other than you have been told to be offended. Do you want to know what makes that soldiers actions heroic? Because he knew what he was getting into and went in anyway. If he didn't know what he had signed up for then he wouldn't be a hero but a victim. You guys are so enmeshed in victimhood that you don't even understand heroism anymore.
 
Fletch said:
You know that is something you don't say to a grieving widow? How many grieving widows have you spoken to? What is it that is offensive in his comment other than you have been told to be offended. Do you want to know what makes that soldiers actions heroic? Because he knew what he was getting into and went in anyway. If he didn't know what he had signed up for then he wouldn't be a hero but a victim. You guys are so enmeshed in victimhood that you don't even understand heroism anymore.
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As usual you open your mouth when you have no ****ing idea what I have or haven't dealt with. Yes, I have been there when a widow of a slain police officer was consoled. The LAST thing she wanted to hear was "he knew what he signed up for". Gimme a break, trump supporters are just insensitive. Plain and simple.
 
Praxas said:
It’s true trump waited and only did it after being hammered about it but then trumpbots make excuses for their false god trump.
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Not a 'Trumpbot'. I give him only 5 or 6 out of 10.
Not making any excuses for Trump.
Trump is no false god, nor a god at all. Well, maybe in your head, certainly not in mine.

Lots of fail in your post.
 
Praxas said:
Genuine honesty would be recognizing that the it DOES matter how the phone call worked out, especially how the pregnant grieving wife took it. I know this is hard for Trump and Trump supporters to understand but these calls are NOT about him, they are about the family that lost their loved ones. Trump decided to politicize this and make it about HIM again.

That is low no matter how you look at it if one were REALLY being genuinely honest.
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I'd note that the pregnant grieving wife hasn't made a public statement about this matter. Good for her.

Happened that the loud mouth leftist idiot congress woman was there at the time of the call and made such a slip shod and dishonest, grandstanding representation of it.

Also, the typically dishonest 'news' (political propaganda) media for given her and her ilk as much ink / time all in pursuit of slapping Trump. Yes, the media owns a pretty big porting of this resulting **** fest, and they've not finished yet even now.

I think she just might have committed political suicide, as I don't see how any sane person can vote for her now. So just deserts there.

In the call, I don't think that Trump was trying to make it about him.

What's low is what the congress woman and the media have made out of this, to quote General Kelly, 'Sacred moment', and in this, I agree with him.
 
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