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Donald Trump just suggested the FBI, Democrats and Russia might all be co-conspirators

Oreo said:
It never stops--:lol:


On Trump dossier, the President just suggested the FBI, Democrats and Russia might all be co-conspirators - CNNPolitics

As many know already FUSION GPS was hired by Jeb Bush to originally do opposition research on Trump. Fusion then hired a retired M1-6 agent Christopher Steele--who has years of experience spying on Russia. When Bush dropped out of the race, Democrats picked it up for awhile, then dropped it. Then Christopher Steele thought the Dossier file was serious enough that he gave it to John McCain and McCain delivered it to Obama. Shortly thereafter, Obama ordered all Russian diplomats out of this country and ordered the Russian investigation.

Fusion GPS had a closed door hearing with the Senate Intelligence committee that lasted for 7 hours, and Christopher Steele has already been interviewed by Robert Mueller.
Fusion GPS co-founder meets with congressional investigators - POLITICO
Mueller's team met with Russia dossier author - CNNPolitics

There are things in the Dossier file have been verified by U.S. Intelligence agencies.
US investigators corroborate some aspects of the Russia dossier - CNNPolitics


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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...p-dossier-author-real-life-james-bond-n706376

What the Trump campaign never figured out is that they were being watched and monitored by several foreign intelligence agencies since 2015.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/apr/13/british-spies-first-to-spot-trump-team-links-russia
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As Trump supporters would say, what crimes were broken?
 
Plus Ultra said:
The Democrats, FBI and Russia have shared interests. When Hillary ran the State Department, she helped Russia secure a deal granting them control of a fifth of the US uranium production, the Democrats worked hard to designate Hillary as their candidate to succeed Obama who was running things when the Russian deal was endorsed by Hillary. A reasonable person would conclude the FBI, Russia and Democrats in general all shared an interest in seeing this uranium deal through and keeping it from drawing much attention.

Shouldn't such a deal attract more scrutiny, wouldn't ceding a fifth of US uranium to Russia be detrimental to the national interest? Uranium is used to make nuclear weapons, is it in the US interest to reduce it's access to this material by a fifth? Is it in the US interest to cede a fifth of it's uranium to a rival nuclear power that targets the US with nuclear weapons?

There's a lot of consideration, things aren't that simple, Russians didn't gain control over the export of the nuclear material from the US, Hillary herself may or may not have been directly involved (it is not clear). The State Department's approval is required for such a transaction, that approval was provided, but there are other agencies also involved which had to approve. We don't know whether Hillary's State Department influenced other agencies, but in the hierarchy of government departments and agencies, the Department of State is at the top, maybe DoD is above?

There are allegations this Rosatom or Uranium One deal involved requisite donations to Hillary's foundation, this is worth investigating, the Russian bank involved in this transaction does have strong ties to the Kremlin. Russian oligarchs involved in banking have donated to Hillary's foundation. Bill Clinton was paid more than half a million dollars in speaking fees by Russian banks as this deal was under review.

This looks to me a lot more like collusion than what I've seen so far on Trump.
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Hillary Clinton and Democrats lose the high ground on Russia

The one thing the losing Clinton campaign always had going for it, we were told again and again as Hillary Clinton’s never-ending campaign morphed into the form of a book tour – is that, at the very least, neither she nor anyone on her campaign ever worked with foreign adversaries of America to secure a place in the Oval Office and history.

That all went out the window earlier this week when the Washington Post reported in a blockbuster story that the infamous Steele dossier – the same one that has landed Buzzfeed in legal hot water for publishing unsubstantiated claims – was partially funded by the Democratic National Committee and the Clinton campaign itself.

the very same members of Clinton World who were screaming for months about collusion and treason to anyone and everywhere are now simply writing off a dossier which involved members of her campaign actually colluding with Kremlin assets (or wishing they could) as “opposition research” – while purposely deceiving the media and claiming it’s just something every campaign does, which is ironic given their claims that the June 2016 meeting at Trump Tower amounted to high treason, in their eyes, and not just opposition research.

Democrats have lost the high ground with President Trump on Russia – the one parallel they used to separate their own bold claims of patriotism in the 2016 election – and once again, they have Hillary Clinton to thank for it. Clinton allegedly thought allocating campaign funds to a dossier with more holes in it than a timeline of her Benghazi whereabouts was more important than allocating them to Wisconsin or Michigan in the final weeks of the campaign.


This will all come out in the wash eventually. An actual fbi informant witness formerly gagged by the obama administration has just been freed up by the trump doj to sing like a bird. Supposedly he has docs, recordings, and records.

FBI informant in Obama-era Russian nuclear bribery cleared to testify before Congress

"The Justice Department on Wednesday night released a former FBI informant from a confidentiality agreement, allowing him to testify before Congress about what he witnessed while undercover about the Russian nuclear industry’s efforts to win favorable decisions during the Obama administration.

Justice Department spokeswoman Sarah Isgur Flores confirmed to The Hill a deal had been reached clearing the informant to talk to Congress for the first time, nearly eight years after he first went undercover for the FBI. "

It would be nice to see some actual evidence of well....anything salient.
 
akyron said:

Hillary Clinton and Democrats lose the high ground on Russia

The one thing the losing Clinton campaign always had going for it, we were told again and again as Hillary Clinton’s never-ending campaign morphed into the form of a book tour – is that, at the very least, neither she nor anyone on her campaign ever worked with foreign adversaries of America to secure a place in the Oval Office and history.

That all went out the window earlier this week when the Washington Post reported in a blockbuster story that the infamous Steele dossier – the same one that has landed Buzzfeed in legal hot water for publishing unsubstantiated claims – was partially funded by the Democratic National Committee and the Clinton campaign itself.

the very same members of Clinton World who were screaming for months about collusion and treason to anyone and everywhere are now simply writing off a dossier which involved members of her campaign actually colluding with Kremlin assets (or wishing they could) as “opposition research” – while purposely deceiving the media and claiming it’s just something every campaign does, which is ironic given their claims that the June 2016 meeting at Trump Tower amounted to high treason, in their eyes, and not just opposition research.

Democrats have lost the high ground with President Trump on Russia – the one parallel they used to separate their own bold claims of patriotism in the 2016 election – and once again, they have Hillary Clinton to thank for it. Clinton allegedly thought allocating campaign funds to a dossier with more holes in it than a timeline of her Benghazi whereabouts was more important than allocating them to Wisconsin or Michigan in the final weeks of the campaign.


This will all come out in the wash eventually. An actual fbi informant witness formerly gagged by the obama administration has just been freed up by the trump doj to sing like a bird. Supposedly he has docs, recordings, and records.

FBI informant in Obama-era Russian nuclear bribery cleared to testify before Congress

"The Justice Department on Wednesday night released a former FBI informant from a confidentiality agreement, allowing him to testify before Congress about what he witnessed while undercover about the Russian nuclear industry’s efforts to win favorable decisions during the Obama administration.

Justice Department spokeswoman Sarah Isgur Flores confirmed to The Hill a deal had been reached clearing the informant to talk to Congress for the first time, nearly eight years after he first went undercover for the FBI. "

It would be nice to see some actual evidence of well....anything salient.
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That's fairly easy go to this link then scroll down to post # 145
https://www.debatepolitics.com/poll...nfronting-trump-his-behavior-and-lies-15.html
 
Oreo said:
It never stops--:lol:


On Trump dossier, the President just suggested the FBI, Democrats and Russia might all be co-conspirators - CNNPolitics

As many know already FUSION GPS was hired by Jeb Bush to originally do opposition research on Trump. Fusion then hired a retired M1-6 agent Christopher Steele--who has years of experience spying on Russia. When Bush dropped out of the race, Democrats picked it up for awhile, then dropped it. Then Christopher Steele thought the Dossier file was serious enough that he gave it to John McCain and McCain delivered it to Obama. Shortly thereafter, Obama ordered all Russian diplomats out of this country and ordered the Russian investigation.

Fusion GPS had a closed door hearing with the Senate Intelligence committee that lasted for 7 hours, and Christopher Steele has already been interviewed by Robert Mueller.
Fusion GPS co-founder meets with congressional investigators - POLITICO
Mueller's team met with Russia dossier author - CNNPolitics

There are things in the Dossier file have been verified by U.S. Intelligence agencies.
US investigators corroborate some aspects of the Russia dossier - CNNPolitics


th

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...p-dossier-author-real-life-james-bond-n706376

What the Trump campaign never figured out is that they were being watched and monitored by several foreign intelligence agencies since 2015.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/apr/13/british-spies-first-to-spot-trump-team-links-russia
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Its funny how almost everyone against Trump is ready to jump on any hair brained idea of conspiracy or collusion to prove their point, but for some reason this little tid bit is just that much too far beneath them.

I honestly wouldn't put it past the DNC to do such a thing, seeing as we already have seen Comey was willing to outright pardon Hillary despite being guilty. Not to mention they had significant dealings with the Russians in their own way.

Yet we are crazy for holding out on speculation.. go figure.
 
Oborosen said:
Its funny how almost everyone against Trump is ready to jump on any hair brained idea of conspiracy or collusion to prove their point, but for some reason this little tid bit is just that much too far beneath them.

I honestly wouldn't put it past the DNC to do such a thing, seeing as we already have seen Comey was willing to outright pardon Hillary despite being guilty. Not to mention they had significant dealings with the Russians in their own way.

Yet we are crazy for holding out on speculation.. go figure.
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Things are not even half way sorted out yet, and the party clingers are already rejoicing.
 
RetiredUSN said:
Things are not even half way sorted out yet, and the party clingers are already rejoicing.
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I'm just asking for at least the majority of them to remain patient, and see what comes out of all of this. Because not only to we have the Mueller investigation coming up with their own leads, but we still have all of those issues still plaguing Hillary over this last scandal of hers. That in itself has plenty of them just saying its a smoke screen as well, though its still a prime possibility in all things.

All we have to do is wait at the moment. The ingredients are mixed, placed in the oven, and now we are waiting for the timer to pop.
 
haymarket said:
This is what happens when a mentally ill narcissist with no sense of anything other than what is good for himself is given this job.

And what is even more sad, a good third of the country will kneel before him, bow and accept what he says as the gospel truth.
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I blame the idiots more than Trump. And, they certainly are idiots.
 
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