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Trump and job creation

pinqy said:
But July 2017 was 2 million higher than July 2016. What happened? In August 2016, employment went up 109,000 and in August 2017, employment went DOWN 73,000.
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Got it, you now want to compare Trump vs Trump instead of Trump vs Obama. Tell me is 600000 less part time for economic reasons and 1.8 million more employed a good or bad thing vs Obama

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Conservative said:
Got it, you now want to compare Trump vs Trump instead of Trump vs Obama.
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No, I was still comparing 2016 to 2017. In 2016, employment went up from July to August. In 2017, employment went down from July to August. NONE of the increase from August 2016 to August 2017 occurred in August 2017.

Tell me is 600000 less part time for economic reasons and 1.8 million more employed a good or bad thing vs Obama
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Well, fewer part time for economic reasons is clearly an improvement. For employed we have to put it in context and look at the emp-pop ratio...which did increase 0.3 percentage points, so that's also a good thing.
But you're lacking context. How does Trump's change from 2016 to 2017 compare to Obama's from 2015 to 2016? Or if you really want to just look at Presidents, August 2016 compared to August 2008?
I'll help you out: the change in employment was higher from August 2015 to August 2016 than August 2016 to August 2017, and the drop in PTER was greater from August 2016 to August 2017 than Aug 2015 to 2016.
 
pinqy said:
No, I was still comparing 2016 to 2017. In 2016, employment went up from July to August. In 2017, employment went down from July to August. NONE of the increase from August 2016 to August 2017 occurred in August 2017.


Well, fewer part time for economic reasons is clearly an improvement. For employed we have to put it in context and look at the emp-pop ratio...which did increase 0.3 percentage points, so that's also a good thing.
But you're lacking context. How does Trump's change from 2016 to 2017 compare to Obama's from 2015 to 2016? Or if you really want to just look at Presidents, August 2016 compared to August 2008?
I'll help you out: the change in employment was higher from August 2015 to August 2016 than August 2016 to August 2017, and the drop in PTER was greater from August 2016 to August 2017 than Aug 2015 to 2016.
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So that would be comparing Obama to Obama on a month to month basis, I compared Trump to Obama which you seem to not understand. There isn't any employment/unemployment number today that is worse than Obama's and that is the issue and something you want to ignore. Change in employment isn't higher as we continue to set records for both employment and labor force and the higher the number the lower the percentage change is going to be. That is a fact.

Here is what you and everyone else wants to ignore

Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey
Original Data Value

Series Id: LNS12000000
Seasonally Adjusted
Series title: (Seas) Employment Level
Labor force status: Employed
Type of data: Number in thousands
Age: 16 years and over
Years: 2007 to 2017

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
2007 146028 146057 146320 145586 145903 146063 145905 145682 146244 145946 146595 146273
2008 146378 146156 146086 146132 145908 145737 145532 145203 145076 144802 144100 143369
2009 142152 141640 140707 140656 140248 140009 139901 139492 138818 138432 138659 138013
2010 138438 138581 138751 139297 139241 139141 139179 139438 139396 139119 139044 139301
2011 139250 139394 139639 139586 139624 139384 139524 139942 140183 140368 140826 140902
2012 141584 141858 142036 141899 142206 142391 142292 142291 143044 143431 143333 143330
2013 143225 143315 143319 143603 143856 144006 144318 144304 144466 143577 144536 144741
2014 145055 145102 145715 145673 145819 146222 146461 146501 146845 147426 147361 147521
2015 148061 148108 148244 148522 148792 148742 148890 149092 148932 149255 149419 150030
2016 150533 151043 151301 151028 151058 151090 151546 151655 151926 151902 152048 152111
2017 152081 152528 153000 153156 152923 153168 153513 153439
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2007 Pre recession year
2009 Obama takes office and signs stimulus February 2009, January 2011 two years later AFTER the stimulus for shovel ready jobs
2016 4 million jobs in 9 years
2017 1.5 to 1.8 million more jobs than anything Obama ever generated
 
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