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"That one crazy guy" arguments

VanceMack said:
17% of Bernie Sanders voters voted for him over Hillary. 8% of the black vote. 29% of the Latino vote. 29% of Asians voted for Trump. 37% of 'other' races voted for Trump. Overall, 9% of declared democrats voted fo Trump.

Can you PLEASE shove a ****ing sock into whatever orifice it is that you keep drawing this "Republicans are racist because they voted or Trump" bull****?
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17% of Bernie voters voted for Trump not because they liked him, but in order to stick it to Hillary in the hopes it would win the nomination for Bernie in 2020. That doesn't mean the like Trump or agree with anything he says.

As for the rest. There may have been some Republicans that bit the bullet and voted for him because they wanted tax cuts, or a pro-life supreme court judge, or to repeal Obamacare, but those who continue to approve of his presidency(78%) despite all that has transpired have no excuse.
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
Thing is, he doesn't... if you imagine you know nothing whatsoever about politics and your town is slowly collapsing into the ground, and you both have a need to know why and a very limited education with which to assess any given explanation.

Like I said, this is a more complex discussion that just everyone must be as big a lunatic as he is.
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So it seems you're claiming "ignorance and naivete", rather than "crazy"? Well, perhaps.

But how does this explain the high percentage of birthers, for instance?

I will attempt to make a point for your side of the argument though, by stating some just may not care for truth, but rather support Trump in order to simply get their way - regardless!
 
MrWonka said:
17% of Bernie voters voted for Trump not because they liked him, but in order to stick it to Hillary in the hopes it would win the nomination for Bernie in 2020. That doesn't mean the like Trump or agree with anything he says.

As for the rest. There may have been some Republicans that bit the bullet and voted for him because they wanted tax cuts, or a pro-life supreme court judge, or to repeal Obamacare, but those who continue to approve of his presidency(78%) despite all that has transpired have no excuse.
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17% voted for Trump because of 'reasons'. 9% of blacks voted for Trump because of 'reasons'. 9% of all democrats voted for Trump because of 'reasons'. 29% of Latinos voted for Trump because of 'reasons'. 29% of Asians voted for Trump because of 'reasons'. 37% of all other racial groups voted for Trump because of 'reasons'. But Republicans voted for Trump because they are all racist.

And you REALLY don t see how ****ing stupid you sound?

Really?
 
Chomsky said:
While I agree with your larger general point in your OP, the specifics concerning Trump are a bit different. He may or may not be crazy, but he proclaims it. And he has a solid subset of the GOP that seemingly believe and support it. And they fill-up large venues to idolize their messiah. So I see a pretty lot of crazy, besides the occasional "one guy" you postulate.
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Don't be too generous with those "hoards".

The White House has the best public relations staff in the world. With a popular president they can fell the Superdome. Trump's last few outings had less people inside cheering, than those outside jeering.

Considering the Trump machine could bus in 1,000 or more people to boost the numbers. With that, the Arizona event was a debacle, all to come of it being the orange head surround by all white geriatrics.
 
Fearandloathing said:
Don't be too generous with those "hoards".

The White House has the best public relations staff in the world. With a popular president they can fell the Superdome. Trump's last few outings had less people inside cheering, than those outside jeering.

Considering the Trump machine could bus in 1,000 or more people to boost the numbers. With that, the Arizona event was a debacle, all to come of it being the orange head surround by all white geriatrics.
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Actually, I saw this the other day:

New Yorker: Trump Fires Longtime Event Organizer Over Sparse Crowd at Phoenix Rally
 
FieldTheorist said:
Can you cite some instances of someone using this style of argument?
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OMG! How much time do you have? Just read through a few threads, any threads. Your side is nutty! Oh, so you say! How about this nutter on your side? Oh, well, the nutters on my side don't represent my side, but the nutters on your side represent your side!

Happens all the time.
 
VanceMack said:
But Republicans voted for Trump because they are all racist.
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What I actually said if you'd try learning to read is that the Republicans who are still supporting him(78% of them) have no excuses.
 
MrWonka said:
What I actually said if you'd try learning to read is that the Republicans who are still supporting him(78% of them) have no excuses.
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If any democrat had a ****ing brain in their head they would support the office of the presidency and hope for his success instead of mindlessly opposing him because their sad little ******s are hurt. Success for the president of the US translates o success for the country. Jobs, increased infrastructure, increased security, enforcement of existing immigration laws, economic growth, etc. But no...leftists have adopted a collective Maxine Waters brain. How ****ing stupid.

I didnt vote for him. For the sake of the country I hope for his success.
 
Dittohead not! said:
OMG! How much time do you have? Just read through a few threads, any threads. Your side is nutty! Oh, so you say! How about this nutter on your side? Oh, well, the nutters on my side don't represent my side, but the nutters on your side represent your side!

Happens all the time.
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Cool story, bruh.
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
You know what I'm tired of?

Arguments from "that one crazy guy."

Arguments against X people, supported by finding a crazy guy who said something that conforms to the conspiracy theory of the poster.

You say most conservatives still support a safety net for the elderly and disabled, they find the guy with a sign who doesn't. You say less than 2% of rape reports are false, they come back with 3 stories about false ones. You say most people like ice cream, and I assure you, they will find the people who don't.

Look.

America is a country of over 320 million people.

Even if something is extremely rare, you will be able to find that one crazy guy -- and very likely, many crazy people -- who go against the trend.

America has tens of millions of conservatives (and tens of millions of liberals), 80,000 reports of rape per year, and probably damn near every one of those 320 million have tried ice cream at some point in their lives.

It is not hard to find that one crazy guy. Even if something is rare, that leaves room for lots of crazy people to exist. And furthermore, it is very likely crazy people will be reported on extensively, specifically BECAUSE it's so rare. Stuff that's common as chips doesn't make the news. It's the exceptions that make the news.

"That one crazy guy" is not an argument.

"That one crazy guy" does not disprove statistical reality.

"That one crazy guy" does not overwhelm the millions of non-crazy people who make up the bulk of a position.

I am really, really tired of hearing arguments from "that one crazy guy."

Please. Stop it.
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Ya but he says very nice things about you.
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
Well, yeah. But we can say that pretty handily on our perches as the politically motivated and informed, can't we.

There's a better explanation for Trump's win than "crazy," in my opinion.
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You're absolutely right and I'm glad the haters still don't get it.
 
apdst said:
You're absolutely right and I'm glad the haters still don't get it.
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Oh, don't mistake me. I'm a bona fide Trump hater. I just don't like simplistic narratives.
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
You know what I'm tired of?

Arguments from "that one crazy guy."

Arguments against X people, supported by finding a crazy guy who said something that conforms to the conspiracy theory of the poster.

You say most conservatives still support a safety net for the elderly and disabled, they find the guy with a sign who doesn't. You say less than 2% of rape reports are false, they come back with 3 stories about false ones. You say most people like ice cream, and I assure you, they will find the people who don't.

Look.

America is a country of over 320 million people.

Even if something is extremely rare, you will be able to find that one crazy guy -- and very likely, many crazy people -- who go against the trend.

America has tens of millions of conservatives (and tens of millions of liberals), 80,000 reports of rape per year, and probably damn near every one of those 320 million have tried ice cream at some point in their lives.

It is not hard to find that one crazy guy. Even if something is rare, that leaves room for lots of crazy people to exist. And furthermore, it is very likely crazy people will be reported on extensively, specifically BECAUSE it's so rare. Stuff that's common as chips doesn't make the news. It's the exceptions that make the news.

"That one crazy guy" is not an argument.

"That one crazy guy" does not disprove statistical reality.

"That one crazy guy" does not overwhelm the millions of non-crazy people who make up the bulk of a position.

I am really, really tired of hearing arguments from "that one crazy guy."

Please. Stop it.
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Yeah, I spend a lot of time here at DP confronting people who use this absolutely idiotic argument. It's what I call the "exception proves the rule" logical fallacy. Every argument presented in the Conspiracy Theory Forum is based on that fallacy.
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
Right, anyone who isn't like you just "doesn't get it." :roll:

Thank goodness for that.
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No, the doesn't understand why they keep losing elections.

Here's a perfect example of why fewer people are voting Democrat.
 

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apdst said:
No, the doesn't understand why they keep losing elections.

Here's a perfect example of why fewer people are voting Democrat.
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Because people think helicopters are angels. Sure, that makes sense. People who can't tell machines from angels vote for guys like Trump.
 
apdst said:
No, the doesn't understand why they keep losing elections.

Here's a perfect example of why fewer people are voting Democrat.
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hmmmm you seem to be indicating the Backlash effect.. where when people are shown that what they believe is true.. is actually not true.. they become MORE entrenched in their belief.. not less.

This cartoon would be a very good example of how the backlash effect occurs.
 
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