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Why are Trump supporters indifferent of his divisiveness?

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That is probably one of the oddest things I have observed the last 6 months. Trump is probably the most divisive president since Lincoln. He attacks the media, protesters, Democrats, leaders of his own party, members of his own administration, CEOs who were on his own councils, etc.

During Charlottesville, a tragedy that most leaders would see as an opportunity to unify the nation against a common threat, he decided to provide cover for white supremacists (those "fine people" who just care about historical statues) because of the hate on "all sides", albeit only one side murdered a woman.

During a natural disaster, Hurricane Harvey, most leaders would want the country focused on standing strong together, but Trump chooses that exact moment to flip off liberals and Latinos by pardoning an unrepentant criminal before he was even sentenced because apparently he was "just doing his job" of racially profiling and unlawfully detaining people, including Hispanic American citizens. He also chose that same moment to ban transgenders in the military from openly serving, even though he can point to no evidence that they have done anything to harm the effectiveness of our military and he is spitting in the face of brave Americans who are willing to serve.

Trump appears quite willing to be a president just for his base, to put them above the law, and to disrespect and ignore the other two thirds of America. His supporters seem to love him for it, but I wonder what the consequences will be for their choices. Obama was moderate and tempered by comparison, and he ended up being despised on a visceral level by many Americans. Now Trump supporters appear to be making the mistake of ignoring how people outside of Trump world feel about his divisive tactics.
 
CriticalThought said:
That is probably one of the oddest things I have observed the last 6 months. Trump is probably the most divisive president since Lincoln. He attacks the media, protesters, Democrats, leaders of his own party, members of his own administration, CEOs who were on his own councils, etc.

During Charlottesville, a tragedy that most leaders would see as an opportunity to unify the nation against a common threat, he decided to provide cover for white supremacists (those "fine people" who just care about historical statues) because of the hate on "all sides", albeit only one side murdered a woman.

During a natural disaster, Hurricane Harvey, most leaders would want the country focused on standing strong together, but Trump chooses that exact moment to flip off liberals and Latinos by pardoning an unrepentant criminal before he was even sentenced because apparently he was "just doing his job" of racially profiling and unlawfully detaining people, including Hispanic American citizens. He also chose that same moment to ban transgenders in the military from openly serving, even though he can point to no evidence that they have done anything to harm the effectiveness of our military and he is spitting in the face of brave Americans who are willing to serve.

Trump appears quite willing to be a president just for his base, to put them above the law, and to disrespect and ignore the other two thirds of America. His supporters seem to love him for it, but I wonder what the consequences will be for their choices. Obama was moderate and tempered by comparison, and he ended up being despised on a visceral level by many Americans. Now Trump supporters appear to be making the mistake of ignoring how people outside of Trump world feel about his divisive tactics.
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Trump is losing support everyday. His supporters live in a very special pretend sort of reality. That reality is getting chipped at every day it's kind of like Chinese water torture.
 
A lot of the Trump supporters who celebrate Arpaio's pardoning simply do not care that Arpaio illegally held innocent American citizens captive in harsh conditions without trial, because they do not see hispanic Americans as Americans. Sympathizing with Arpaio means sympathizing with arbitrarily locking up brown people without due process on the whims of a government bureaucrat. You can not be for law and order, the constitution, or racial equality if you support Arpaio and his highly illegal and unconstitutional tactics.
 
CriticalThought said:
That is probably one of the oddest things I have observed the last 6 months. Trump is probably the most divisive president since Lincoln. He attacks the media, protesters, Democrats, leaders of his own party, members of his own administration, CEOs who were on his own councils, etc.

During Charlottesville, a tragedy that most leaders would see as an opportunity to unify the nation against a common threat, he decided to provide cover for white supremacists (those "fine people" who just care about historical statues) because of the hate on "all sides", albeit only one side murdered a woman.

During a natural disaster, Hurricane Harvey, most leaders would want the country focused on standing strong together, but Trump chooses that exact moment to flip off liberals and Latinos by pardoning an unrepentant criminal before he was even sentenced because apparently he was "just doing his job" of racially profiling and unlawfully detaining people, including Hispanic American citizens. He also chose that same moment to ban transgenders in the military from openly serving, even though he can point to no evidence that they have done anything to harm the effectiveness of our military and he is spitting in the face of brave Americans who are willing to serve.

Trump appears quite willing to be a president just for his base, to put them above the law, and to disrespect and ignore the other two thirds of America. His supporters seem to love him for it, but I wonder what the consequences will be for their choices. Obama was moderate and tempered by comparison, and he ended up being despised on a visceral level by many Americans. Now Trump supporters appear to be making the mistake of ignoring how people outside of Trump world feel about his divisive tactics.
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Trump is naturally and instinctively a bully who enjoys flipping off people and being mean. It is his way and he cannot avoid it or change it. He plays only to his base and he does not care that over 60% of Americans hate him or do not approve of him and his administration.

When it gets to 75% lets see if it begins to sink in. I doubt that it will as he is as dense as the concrete poured in the Hoover Dam walls.

He is dividing this nation like nothing seen since the Viet Nam war ear and its probably going to get far far worse unless he is removed ASAP.
 
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Trump is all for Trump and only for Trump. Most Americans now recognize this.

Some will never admit such because they themselves share some the same deficiencies as Donald Trump ... infallibility, self-righteous, bigotry, misogyny, compulsive liar, sense of superiority, grandiosity, etc....
 
CriticalThought said:
That is probably one of the oddest things I have observed the last 6 months. Trump is probably the most divisive president since Lincoln. He attacks the media, protesters, Democrats, leaders of his own party, members of his own administration, CEOs who were on his own councils, etc.

During Charlottesville, a tragedy that most leaders would see as an opportunity to unify the nation against a common threat, he decided to provide cover for white supremacists (those "fine people" who just care about historical statues) because of the hate on "all sides", albeit only one side murdered a woman.

During a natural disaster, Hurricane Harvey, most leaders would want the country focused on standing strong together, but Trump chooses that exact moment to flip off liberals and Latinos by pardoning an unrepentant criminal before he was even sentenced because apparently he was "just doing his job" of racially profiling and unlawfully detaining people, including Hispanic American citizens. He also chose that same moment to ban transgenders in the military from openly serving, even though he can point to no evidence that they have done anything to harm the effectiveness of our military and he is spitting in the face of brave Americans who are willing to serve.

Trump appears quite willing to be a president just for his base, to put them above the law, and to disrespect and ignore the other two thirds of America. His supporters seem to love him for it, but I wonder what the consequences will be for their choices. Obama was moderate and tempered by comparison, and he ended up being despised on a visceral level by many Americans. Now Trump supporters appear to be making the mistake of ignoring how people outside of Trump world feel about his divisive tactics.
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If you think Obama governed as a moderate I wonder what one would need to do to be considered far left by you?

To answer your question of why I don't eviscerate Trump like you think I should. It's because I don't share your ubber left values. It's not a slight on you, it's me telling you I don't see his actions as bad as you see them. Some of his rhetoric is hyperbolic but it is an appropriate response to the vitriol he faces from his opposition.

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RabidAlpaca said:
A lot of the Trump supporters who celebrate Arpaio's pardoning simply do not care that Arpaio illegally held innocent American citizens captive in harsh conditions without trial, because they do not see hispanic Americans as Americans. Sympathizing with Arpaio means sympathizing with arbitrarily locking up brown people without due process on the whims of a government bureaucrat. You can not be for law and order, the constitution, or racial equality if you support Arpaio and his highly illegal and unconstitutional tactics.
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Link?

How many legal people did he arrest?

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CriticalThought said:
That is probably one of the oddest things I have observed the last 6 months. Trump is probably the most divisive president since Lincoln. He attacks the media, protesters, Democrats, leaders of his own party, members of his own administration, CEOs who were on his own councils, etc.

During Charlottesville, a tragedy that most leaders would see as an opportunity to unify the nation against a common threat, he decided to provide cover for white supremacists (those "fine people" who just care about historical statues) because of the hate on "all sides", albeit only one side murdered a woman.

During a natural disaster, Hurricane Harvey, most leaders would want the country focused on standing strong together, but Trump chooses that exact moment to flip off liberals and Latinos by pardoning an unrepentant criminal before he was even sentenced because apparently he was "just doing his job" of racially profiling and unlawfully detaining people, including Hispanic American citizens. He also chose that same moment to ban transgenders in the military from openly serving, even though he can point to no evidence that they have done anything to harm the effectiveness of our military and he is spitting in the face of brave Americans who are willing to serve.

Trump appears quite willing to be a president just for his base, to put them above the law, and to disrespect and ignore the other two thirds of America. His supporters seem to love him for it, but I wonder what the consequences will be for their choices. Obama was moderate and tempered by comparison, and he ended up being despised on a visceral level by many Americans. Now Trump supporters appear to be making the mistake of ignoring how people outside of Trump world feel about his divisive tactics.
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Can only speak for myself, but I think only someone with the Brass of President Trump, can push back against the fraud, deceit, and gross manipulation of the entrenched elites in Washington D.C., and the very dangerous influence and actions of the left, their MSM partners, and the massive agenda of the multitude of groups on the extreme left directing the Culture War they have launched.

Sashaying around in abject fear of the PC Police, and their partners in the Media, will not get the results the people clearly communicated on November 8, 2016.

Using hyperbole and fiction to describe what the President has been doing is part of the reason the there is indifference being shown by 10's of millions of everyday Americans.

After all, what do those on left expect when you call them irretrievable deplorable and defame and slander them with accusations of racism, etc.?

Seems to me complaints about him are nothing more than a continuation of this offensive effort to divide the nation and feed the Culture War the left is waging.
 
ocean515 said:
Can only speak for myself, but I think only someone with the Brass of President Trump, can push back against the fraud, deceit, and gross manipulation of the entrenched elites in Washington D.C., and the very dangerous influence and actions of the left, their MSM partners, and the massive agenda of the multitude of groups on the extreme left directing the Culture War they have launched.

Sashaying around in abject fear of the PC Police, and their partners in the Media, will not get the results the people clearly communicated on November 8, 2016.

Using hyperbole and fiction to describe what the President has been doing is part of the reason the there is indifference being shown by 10's of millions of everyday Americans.

After all, what do those on left expect when you call them irretrievable deplorable and defame and slander them with accusations of racism, etc.?

Seems to me complaints about him are nothing more than a continuation of this offensive effort to divide the nation and feed the Culture War the left is waging.
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Very well said. Thank you.
 
CriticalThought said:
That is probably one of the oddest things I have observed the last 6 months. Trump is probably the most divisive president since Lincoln. He attacks the media, protesters, Democrats, leaders of his own party, members of his own administration, CEOs who were on his own councils, etc.

During Charlottesville, a tragedy that most leaders would see as an opportunity to unify the nation against a common threat, he decided to provide cover for white supremacists (those "fine people" who just care about historical statues) because of the hate on "all sides", albeit only one side murdered a woman.

During a natural disaster, Hurricane Harvey, most leaders would want the country focused on standing strong together, but Trump chooses that exact moment to flip off liberals and Latinos by pardoning an unrepentant criminal before he was even sentenced because apparently he was "just doing his job" of racially profiling and unlawfully detaining people, including Hispanic American citizens. He also chose that same moment to ban transgenders in the military from openly serving, even though he can point to no evidence that they have done anything to harm the effectiveness of our military and he is spitting in the face of brave Americans who are willing to serve.

Trump appears quite willing to be a president just for his base, to put them above the law, and to disrespect and ignore the other two thirds of America. His supporters seem to love him for it, but I wonder what the consequences will be for their choices. Obama was moderate and tempered by comparison, and he ended up being despised on a visceral level by many Americans. Now Trump supporters appear to be making the mistake of ignoring how people outside of Trump world feel about his divisive tactics.
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Because the alternative would be the beliefs of people you support. Open borders, socialism, free everything, The Clinton Mob held in high regard. I'll stop here.

You people are flat out trying to take the country socialist by cramming millions of poor, uneducated, peasants into the USA for your cheap lawn care and lower prices. Yet at the same time you are trying to "off" the citizen workforce with special visas for the "educated" workforce, then crying alligator tears that "people are so poor".. no ****, Sherlock.

An honest citizen doesn't have a chance against the democrat's who's hero's are antifa for going out and doing your dirty work.
 
Rogue Valley said:
Trump is all for Trump and only for Trump. Most Americans now recognize this.

Some will never admit such because they themselves share some the same deficiencies as Donald Trump ... infallibility, self-righteous, bigotry, misogyny, compulsive liar, sense of superiority, grandiosity, etc....
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Literally one of the most idiotic statements ever made on DP. And that's saying a LOT. :doh
 
trouble13 said:
If you think Obama governed as a moderate I wonder what one would need to do to be considered far left by you?

To answer your question of why I don't eviscerate Trump like you think I should. It's because I don't share your ubber left values. It's not a slight on you, it's me telling you I don't see his actions as bad as you see them. Some of his rhetoric is hyperbolic but it is an appropriate response to the vitriol he faces from his opposition.

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I agree we are living in different worlds, but are you so indifferent to how offensive others find his rhetoric and actions that you just don't care?
 
ocean515 said:
Can only speak for myself, but I think only someone with the Brass of President Trump, can push back against the fraud, deceit, and gross manipulation of the entrenched elites in Washington D.C., and the very dangerous influence and actions of the left, their MSM partners, and the massive agenda of the multitude of groups on the extreme left directing the Culture War they have launched.

Sashaying around in abject fear of the PC Police, and their partners in the Media, will not get the results the people clearly communicated on November 8, 2016.

Using hyperbole and fiction to describe what the President has been doing is part of the reason the there is indifference being shown by 10's of millions of everyday Americans.

After all, what do those on left expect when you call them irretrievable deplorable and defame and slander them with accusations of racism, etc.?

Seems to me complaints about him are nothing more than a continuation of this offensive effort to divide the nation and feed the Culture War the left is waging.
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Exactly what results do you envision Trump is getting by being this divisive?
 
CriticalThought said:
That is probably one of the oddest things I have observed the last 6 months. Trump is probably the most divisive president since Lincoln. He attacks the media, protesters, Democrats, leaders of his own party, members of his own administration, CEOs who were on his own councils, etc.

During Charlottesville, a tragedy that most leaders would see as an opportunity to unify the nation against a common threat, he decided to provide cover for white supremacists (those "fine people" who just care about historical statues) because of the hate on "all sides", albeit only one side murdered a woman.

During a natural disaster, Hurricane Harvey, most leaders would want the country focused on standing strong together, but Trump chooses that exact moment to flip off liberals and Latinos by pardoning an unrepentant criminal before he was even sentenced because apparently he was "just doing his job" of racially profiling and unlawfully detaining people, including Hispanic American citizens. He also chose that same moment to ban transgenders in the military from openly serving, even though he can point to no evidence that they have done anything to harm the effectiveness of our military and he is spitting in the face of brave Americans who are willing to serve.

Trump appears quite willing to be a president just for his base, to put them above the law, and to disrespect and ignore the other two thirds of America. His supporters seem to love him for it, but I wonder what the consequences will be for their choices. Obama was moderate and tempered by comparison, and he ended up being despised on a visceral level by many Americans. Now Trump supporters appear to be making the mistake of ignoring how people outside of Trump world feel about his divisive tactics.
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I can't speak for Trump supporters, not being one, but I certainly can speak as someone who understands why Trump supporters would continue to support him as he continues to be "divisive" as you say. I'd make two points in that regard:

1. The Democrat Party, specifically, and liberals, more broadly, have made a living out of pitting one faction of society against another on every policy issue known to man so calling out someone representing the right as being the "most divisive President since Lincoln" is pretty rich. Liberals created identity politics and fed off it's divisive nature for decades. And it is the left, and their media mouthpieces that are fomenting the divisiveness under Trump as much as anything Trump has done or said.

2. The list of characters you claim Trump has "attacked" is a litany of those who have been attacking the right and conservatives in government for decades as well. A little payback is what many of the supporters of Trump have been dying for and they are delighted to see it finally come to pass.
 
chuckiechan said:
Because the alternative would be the beliefs of people you support. Open borders, socialism, free everything, The Clinton Mob held in high regard. I'll stop here.

You people are flat out trying to take the country socialist by cramming millions of poor, uneducated, peasants into the USA for your cheap lawn care and lower prices. Yet at the same time you are trying to "off" the citizen workforce with special visas for the "educated" workforce, then crying alligator tears that "people are so poor".. no ****, Sherlock.

An honest citizen doesn't have a chance against the democrat's who's hero's are antifa for going out and doing your dirty work.
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I don't support open borders or socialism and I am not a Democrat. I have been a registered Independent for well over a decade and voted for both parties. You identified some genuine issues this country has, particularly with immigration but nothing Trump has said or done is really indicative of moving this country toward fixing it. Pardoning a lawless Sheriff is not likely to bring people to the table on immigration reforms. Building a useless wall that does little to secure our border is equally as pointless and is even more politically divisive for its costs.

I don't understand why you feel like pissing on people like me, who generally are not liberal or conservative, but who have a stake in this country, is ok.
 
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... infallibility, self-righteous, bigotry, misogyny, compulsive liar, sense of superiority, grandiosity, etc....
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Not that the below describes you personally, I am just trying to answer the OP question from my perspective, and your list gave a great point from which to start to do so.

The list above, although used to describe Trump, can also be utilized to describe the Progressive left's attitude (even misogyny when it comes to most strong willed women on the right) of anyone and everyone that doesn't agree with them lockstep. Anyone that is center right has felt the wrath of the Progressive left by either being called a racist, or a bigot, or a misogynist, or a liar, or an ignorant uneducated fool, or any number of other epithets meant to boost the already grandiose sense of superiority that the Progressive left has for themselves.

How many times must we (we being anyone center or right of center) hear about how it was the uneducated of this country that voted for Trump, as if no one with a High School education, much less a college education, could ever even think about voting for Trump, and by extension, a Republican? How many times do we have to be accused of being racist supporters of hateful people just because we recognize that the First Amendment protects the freedom of speech of everyone, even those that we vehemently disagree with, like the KKK, Neo-Nazi's, BLM, and even the New Black Panther Party?

The post below, to me as a person that didn't vote for Trump but can understand why so many did, gives one of the best explanations as to why many voted for Trump, and because of the actions of the Progressive left, continue to support him, and the very actions that are divisive, because they feel that he's hitting back FOR THEM when no one else is, has, would, or will.

ocean515 said:
Can only speak for myself, but I think only someone with the Brass of President Trump, can push back against the fraud, deceit, and gross manipulation of the entrenched elites in Washington D.C., and the very dangerous influence and actions of the left, their MSM partners, and the massive agenda of the multitude of groups on the extreme left directing the Culture War they have launched.

Sashaying around in abject fear of the PC Police, and their partners in the Media, will not get the results the people clearly communicated on November 8, 2016.

Using hyperbole and fiction to describe what the President has been doing is part of the reason the there is indifference being shown by 10's of millions of everyday Americans.

After all, what do those on left expect when you call them irretrievable deplorable and defame and slander them with accusations of racism, etc.?

Seems to me complaints about him are nothing more than a continuation of this offensive effort to divide the nation and feed the Culture War the left is waging.
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katzgar said:
Trump is losing support everyday. His supporters live in a very special pretend sort of reality. That reality is getting chipped at every day it's kind of like Chinese water torture.
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Trump has lost a lot of support he had with independents, but most of that lost has to do with his persona as an obnoxious oaf. Not so much where he stands on the issues or policies which some are for, some are against and the rest are pretty much split 50-50 among independents. Trump has dropped from 48% support among independents at the end of January to 35% today. Independents expect a president to at least act a bit like a president. Trump hasn't. He also has lost some Republican support from 90% down to 75%. He never had any Democratic support, ever.

Most of the support Trump lost with Republicans were among the anti-Clinton Republicans, the never-Trump Republicans who voted for him only because the other choice was Clinton. These folks disliked Trump to begin with, but they hated Clinton even more. Independents went for Trump last year 46-42 with 12% voting third party. Again, part of the reason Trump won independents is that they disliked Clinton worst. If Gallup is to be believed 54% of all independents disliked both Trump and Clinton and wanted someone else to become the next president.

So it's not surprising Trump is falling with independents, most didn't like him to begin with. But were far more willing to give Trump a chance to govern than Democrats which weren't willing at all. What is surprising is 35% of all independents still approve of the Donald. But 20 out of that 35% only somewhat approve. They could leave that somewhat column at any time.
 
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CriticalThought said:
That is probably one of the oddest things I have observed the last 6 months. Trump is probably the most divisive president since Lincoln. He attacks the media, protesters, Democrats, leaders of his own party, members of his own administration, CEOs who were on his own councils, etc.

~snipped the spin~
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Trump is NOT the most divisive President at all. If anyone in RECENT history should be characterized that way, it would be Obama.

Trump attacks anyone who attacks him. If people can't handle that, then they should find a set of balls and quit their whining.

My suggestion to you is...don't believe the spin. You'll feel better.
 
CriticalThought said:
That is probably one of the oddest things I have observed the last 6 months. Trump is probably the most divisive president since Lincoln. He attacks the media, protesters, Democrats, leaders of his own party, members of his own administration, CEOs who were on his own councils, etc.

During Charlottesville, a tragedy that most leaders would see as an opportunity to unify the nation against a common threat, he decided to provide cover for white supremacists (those "fine people" who just care about historical statues) because of the hate on "all sides", albeit only one side murdered a woman.

During a natural disaster, Hurricane Harvey, most leaders would want the country focused on standing strong together, but Trump chooses that exact moment to flip off liberals and Latinos by pardoning an unrepentant criminal before he was even sentenced because apparently he was "just doing his job" of racially profiling and unlawfully detaining people, including Hispanic American citizens. He also chose that same moment to ban transgenders in the military from openly serving, even though he can point to no evidence that they have done anything to harm the effectiveness of our military and he is spitting in the face of brave Americans who are willing to serve.

Trump appears quite willing to be a president just for his base, to put them above the law, and to disrespect and ignore the other two thirds of America. His supporters seem to love him for it, but I wonder what the consequences will be for their choices. Obama was moderate and tempered by comparison, and he ended up being despised on a visceral level by many Americans. Now Trump supporters appear to be making the mistake of ignoring how people outside of Trump world feel about his divisive tactics.
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Trump embraces his supporters because they are his base, the only ones who will vote for him.(It will take more than 35% of the people to reelect this shady con artist!) The average decent American will run from Trump as if he's infected with typhoid. Trump is simply repulsive but there are some Americans just as disgusting as he is and these fringe types are his followers. [Thankfully only a few compared to the majority of balanced Americans]. Now if we can just prevent Russia from meddling in the 2020 election, we will be assured The current Jackal will not serve another term.
 
Mycroft said:
Trump is NOT the most divisive President at all.
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Of course he is, this has been a summer blockbuster of a drama, and it's showing no signs of slowing.
Trump attacks anyone who attacks him. If people can't handle that, then they should find a set of balls and quit their whining.
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Oh bull****. Did Sessions attack Trump? No, he was a SUPPORTER of Trump. But Trump felt it was OK to attack him just the same because Trump knows only two modes. Lies/hyperbole, and attack. We can go down the list, we have it all on record, Trump's so ****ing stupid in his tweets and interviews that it's not like it's hard to prove.
 
CriticalThought said:
I agree we are living in different worlds, but are you so indifferent to how offensive others find his rhetoric and actions that you just don't care?
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Im not sure how to answer your question because my answer is both yes and no.

yes I care in that When Trump is guilty of doing certain things I dont like from your side I condemn that. Two wrongs do not make a right. For instance when he told his crowd he would pay legal fees for a guy for hitting someone. I dont cheer him on.

No I dont care about the mountain of nensense complaints that people say they are offended by. I think they are inaccurate at best and dishonest at worst. Either way Im not going to be upset with Trump for other peoples interputations of his words/actions

I will tell you something else about all this that does the left no favors in winning any sympathy from me on this topic. Im not saying you, because I dont know you, but many people right here on this board will read my post and lump into the catagory of racist, bigot, deplorable simply because I dont share their complaint. They will use that to dismiss anything i have to say that they dont like. It leaves no room for any open dialouge. It leaves me in the position of not wanting to bother even trying to discuss something because of the very offensive brick wall they put up.

I think its all very childish and what bothers people in dealing with Trump is that he behaves just as childish as they do. Trump dismisses the left and puts up a brick wall by calling it fake news or whatever just like the left does with calling everyone racists.

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CriticalThought said:
Do you honestly care about his victims? You could Google it and research it yourself.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...e-arpaios-victims-he-doesnt-deserve-a-pardon/
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I could do that and I probably will anyway, but it was not me that made the claim. If I claimed it I would of already researched it and if someone asked me for what evidence I had to support my claim, I would happily share it. Also if I did not care I would not of asked.

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