Vietnam War Symbolism; Time to Stop Nursing Grievances and Get Over the Past

camlok said:

The southerners were no different than the terrorists who rebelled against England. Actually, the US civil war is a dandy illustration of the hypocrisy of the USA, [as if anyone needed more]. The bull**** about freedom, but the people of the south weren't allowed to have theirs, nor were Blacks, Chinese, Native Americans, Japanese, ... . More of the stunning US hypocrisy.

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cuban smokes said:

So much talk lately concerning getting rid of memorials & tributes, and particularly so when it comes to the ‘side’ which lost a war

I thought I would borrow a thread theme & also a quote from a member in another thread & apply the general concept to the failed Vietnam War, a war which the US clearly lost



Now, to re-phrase that quote in the context of the Vietnam War in which the US lost, a war in which millions of Vietnamese were slaughtered by US forces

The US lost, they should lose their statues & memorials, they have had over 40 years to get over it

let's see how that works ............

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beefheart said:

So, how many statues are there of heroes from the Vietnam war in the US?

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Fearandloathing said:

A few problems with the premise, not the least of which is that a majority of righties in here believe the US won the Vietnam war.

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beefheart said:

So, how many statues are there of heroes from the Vietnam war in the US?

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olnate said:

hmm...interesting proposition. In order to even begin to create an equivalency, though, the statues would need to be in vietnam...in which case, i would totally support them being removed.

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Tigerace117 said:

They were utterly terrified of the USAF's bombing runs. The North Vietnamese were not interested in once more been pummeled from the sky by the immense bombs we were dropping. Had we punished their violation of the treaty with even a few raids, they would have backed down.

The VC's back had been broken. Large columns of mechanized and armored forces like the NVA finally brought into play in their climatic invasion of the south can not melt into the jungle like guerilla infantry units can.

The NVA's troops fought because communist countries don't take well to people telling them "well, I'd really rather sit this one out." When your options are fervent patriotism or slave labor camps, most people are going to choose fervent patriotism.

The North Vietnamese were never the same after Tet, and they themselves admitted it. We talked ourselves into defeat there and elsewhere.

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iguanaman said:

There were no "North Vietnamese" only Vietnamese and those against a free Vietnam. We lost that war the minute we set foot there. The f'ing "South" Vietnamese President spoke French for God's sake. We fought on the side of imperialism and you think we could have won?

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