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America has 3.5 Million Illegal Voters

The funny part is that it is hard to get a large percent of the legal voters to vote and yet the claim here is that millions repeat millions of non legal voters who have a habit of keeping a low profile in society for fear of ICE are willing to risk server punishment to cast a vote for no personal gain.

Seems if true when those illegal voters would made better citizens then the ones we have now that can not be bother to cast a vote......LOL

You have to love the right wing and their crazy conspiracy theories.

Trump is of course the king of such theories with Obama not being a natural born citizen and millions of illegals was bus into CA using thousands of buses to keep Trump from winning the popular vote in that state.

Wow...

You sure have an active imagination.
 
Wow...

You sure have an active imagination.

Me I did not come up with the theory that millions of illegals was bus into CA in order to keep Trump from winning the popular vote that gem came from our beloved President.
 
Me I did not come up with the theory that millions of illegals was bus into CA in order to keep Trump from winning the popular vote that gem came from our beloved President.

And because someone said that, you act as if it is mainstream conservative.

Pathetic...
 
Have you ever wondered why Pubs gerrymander and suppress the voter?

Both sides Gerrymander when they have the ball. Please stop being silly.

It is fact that democrats do all that is in their power to stop the checks and balances that the republicans want to implement in the voting system.
 
Have you ever wondered why Democrats hate talking about voter fraud?


Because they know its a waste of time as no true study has ever unearthed any significant problem.
 
And because someone said that, you act as if it is mainstream conservative.

Pathetic...

Mainstream what? Someone as in Trump as it is the position of our beloved president and a large percent of his followers it would seems.

True it is not as far as I know the position of any sane conservative but the number of those had always been small as in very tiny. They need to find another Goldwater to dig themselves from out from under the racists and nazis and amount to anything once more.
 
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Have you ever wondered why Democrats hate talking about voter fraud? It may be because they know their party has no morals, and will do anything to win, even if they have to cheat to do it.

It's not a question of having "no morals". It's legal and political and all that. Power base. Think they need it. Lose not their souls, but their jobs. Heavy stuff.
 
Have you ever wondered why Democrats hate talking about voter fraud? It may be because they know their party has no morals, and will do anything to win, even if they have to cheat to do it.

As a former PC (Precinct Captain) in my state, I had access to the voter roles for my county. The residence next door to my home had changed hands 10 years prior due to the passing of the homeowner. Not only was the gentleman still on the voter rolls, he was listed as an active voter a decade after his passing. He was a registered democrat.

When canvassing the precinct, there was a fairly good chance that someone in the house was registered incorrectly (no longer in the house, switched parties, bad name). Keep in mind that I was only talking to republicans and independents.

My conclusions - government information systems may not be the most advanced or the best, sometimes clerical errors are the reasons for voter registration errors. Sometimes true voter fraud is taking place, I saw the evidence of it directly. Sometimes people are lazy or failed to update/change their registration.

My solution - require state issued ID to vote, require your ID to be verified against/match your voter registration, require your vote to be accomplished in person, eliminate early voting. (only exception made is for government and military can vote from overseas/out of precinct)

In my opinion - if you are opposed to the above, you are OK with an increased level of voter fraud and/or vote inaccuracy. You may have a variety of reasons for opposing it, but you are trading voting accuracy for your reasoning.

Note that I am not coming at this from a partisan position, so don't put intent in my mouth based on your particular paradigm. I am interested in accurate and fair voting practices; the current system is neither in most locales. The only debate is how unfair or how inaccurate it is.
 
Because they know its a waste of time as no true study has ever unearthed any significant problem.

Not true.

The fact is that you cannot find illegal activity if yo turn a blind eye it.
 
Well I'll be a son of a bitch, the Cheeto was right about something! Well, you know what they say, broken clock is still right twice a day.
 
Me I did not come up with the theory that millions of illegals was bus into CA in order to keep Trump from winning the popular vote that gem came from our beloved President.

Sorry, I think the words were jumbled on that.

First off, the OP of this thread is about illegal voting activity. Not focusing on illegal immigrants voting, though that happens too.

I'll bet your confirmation bias lead you the wrong conclusion.
 
Both sides Gerrymander when they have the ball. Please stop being silly. It is fact that democrats do all that is in their power to stop the checks and balances that the republicans want to implement in the voting system.
The Dems don't gerrymander as well as the Pubs that's for sure.

All states need a non-partisan civilian districting board. Utah will have one after the 2018 elections.

The GOP has been trying to overthrow the checks and balances in the state constitutions on voting whenever they can get away with it.

And the OP has failed: the 3.5 million non-purged names are overwhelmingly in the 35 Red states.
 
Have you ever wondered why Democrats hate talking about voter fraud? It may be because they know their party has no morals, and will do anything to win, even if they have to cheat to do it.


you have to be seriously ignorant to post this crap.
 
For Immediate Release
January 24, 2017

WASHINGTON, DC - The National Association of Secretaries of State (NASS), which represents 40 of the nation's chief state election officials, today issued the following statement:

"We are not aware of any evidence that supports the voter fraud claims made by President Trump, but we are open to learning more about the Administration’s concerns. In the lead up to the November 2016 election, secretaries of state expressed their confidence in the systemic integrity of our election process as a bipartisan group, and they stand behind that statement today.”

National Association of Secretaries of State (NASS) Statement on Election Integrity (October 18, 2017):
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At a minimum, 40 US Secretaries of State in charge of their state election process could find no evidence of massive voter fraud as Trump claimed.
 
My solution - require state issued ID to vote, require your ID to be verified against/match your voter registration, require your vote to be accomplished in person, eliminate early voting. (only exception made is for government and military can vote from overseas/out of precinct)

In my opinion - if you are opposed to the above, you are OK with an increased level of voter fraud and/or vote inaccuracy. You may have a variety of reasons for opposing it, but you are trading voting accuracy for your reasoning.

Before any such actions should be taken there should be a firm showing of meaningful voting fraud in my opinion.

Cutting down on early voting for example will cut down on the total vote and likely in an unequal manner.
 
Actually all reliable data indicates that there are 75 KABILLION illegal voters in America.

Yep, that's right: 75 KABILLION.

Yeah, I heard that no real voters voted last election.

ALL the votes were fraudulent.
 
Yep.

They will not address the issue because their major advantage would be gone.

And you guys call the Russian thing a nothingburger.

Right leaning groups have been looking for voter fraud for as long as I can remember.

Yet they find only the couple everybody expected.

Then say it was not the long form birth certificate or whatever to dismiss their own findings.

My favorite is when some voter registration flunky makes up some registrations to increase his paycheck and y'all scream "VOTUR FRAWD!!1!!

If it was there you would have found it already.

Here's a thought experiment.

Describe to us the process by which relevant numbers of fraudulent votes are cast. Go into details. Explain the logistics and the mechanisms by which all those people have kept the secret. How's no voter fraud conspirator ever got drunk and spilled his guts. How no hacker ever got ahold of what would have to been an elaborate plan and sold it to republicans who would pay handsomely.

This should be a hoot.
 
I have no idea where the less than 20 comes from. Convictions alone count far more than that.

Voter Fraud Database Tops 1,000 Proven Cases

Surely that's the tip of the iceberg. Voter fraud is a one day and gone crime and is not exactly on LEO's priority list.

Oh god, it even starts with the fake registration example.

You know, the one where the flunky who sits outside the grocery store trying o get you to r register the vote makes up fake ones because he is paid by the registration or has bonuses tied to a certain number a day.

I did this work for about a week. It sucked. And the guys who had been doing it for a while told me about that trick,so its nothing new.

Y'all never include the part where they are exposed by the registrars, rejected, and reported.

But you scream VOTUR FRAWD!!!1!, even when this has been explained over and over.
 
Everyone need to remember. I is typical that for every one person found doing such things, there are around 1,000 not caught.

Did you wipe that number you pulled out of your ass before you posted it?
 
Oh god, it even starts with the fake registration example.

You know, the one where the flunky who sits outside the grocery store trying o get you to r register the vote makes up fake ones because he is paid by the registration or has bonuses tied to a certain number a day.

I did this work for about a week. It sucked. And the guys who had been doing it for a while told me about that trick,so its nothing new.

Y'all never include the part where they are exposed by the registrars, rejected, and reported.

But you scream VOTUR FRAWD!!!1!, even when this has been explained over and over.

You made a claim. A false claim. 20 or less I believe, I responded. Links and everything.

Your claim is false.

Now a new claim. That they get exposed by registrars. Probably need to back that one too. But some were exposed and convicted. More than 20. I linked them.

So far, baseless claims, personal attacks, no backup. Anything new to report?
 
Both sides Gerrymander when they have the ball. Please stop being silly.

It is fact that democrats do all that is in their power to stop the checks and balances that the republicans want to implement in the voting system.

And the republicans keep looking for more checks and balances to impose because they do better when turnout is low.

All they ever had to do was write in a massive free voter ID drive into their voter ID laws.

"Hey, this is important. We know its going to be a pain in the butt, but we're gonna do everything in our power to make it easy to get. And it'll be free!"

But their is NOT what they do. They close dmv's in dem areas. Especially when its the only one for miles. They obviously look at where big chunks of dem votes are coming from and try to interfere. Like ending Sunday voting where churches bus members to vote after services, for instance.

It is a fact that republicans do everything in their power to suppress dem voters.
 
You made a claim. A false claim. 20 or less I believe, I responded. Links and everything.

Your claim is false.

Now a new claim. That they get exposed by registrars. Probably need to back that one too. But some were exposed and convicted. More than 20. I linked them.

So far, baseless claims, personal attacks, no backup. Anything new to report?

I never mentioned a number.

And most of the registration fraud is caught by registrars. This is because its usually just made up names and ss numbers.

And which personal attack are you talking about?

I think you have me confused with someone else.

The one recently in Nevada, for instance.
 
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