• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Trump and Obama have one surprising thing in common

spud_meister

spud_meister

Veni, vidi, dormivi!
DP Veteran
Joined
Nov 6, 2009
Messages
36,917
Reaction score
22,238
Location
Didjabringabeeralong
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Communist
https://theconversation.com/trump-a...sing-thing-in-common-the-words-they-use-81309

[h=2]Obama and Trump vs. everyone else[/h] On two key dimensions, Obama and Trump look similar – and stand in marked contrast to all other presidents.
First, their rhetoric is much more self-referential, meaning it uses more first-person pronouns. Obama’s rhetoric is 69 percent more self-referential than the presidential average, and Trump exceeds Obama by another 20 percent.
Trump employs almost 50 percent more first-person pronouns than the second most heavily self-referential president after Obama, Gerald Ford. Trump’s rhetoric is twice as self-referential as the postwar presidential average.
Click to expand...

Anyone remember all the conservatives criticising Obama for using the word "I" a lot?
 
Hillary got hit on that during the primaries. Bernie would say "we" all of the time, and after he started catching up I noticed a very substantial change in Clinton's language. It could be some sort of speech technique people are taught.
 
I have never given it much thought.
 
MrPeanut said:
Hillary got hit on that during the primaries. Bernie would say "we" all of the time, and after he started catching up I noticed a very substantial change in Clinton's language. It could be some sort of speech technique people are taught.
Click to expand...

Eh, I think people are just mainly used to speaking for themselves and, as opposed to it showing a giant ego, it actually could indicate less confidence/bravado by showing a reluctance to speak for anyone else.
 
Peter King said:
I can remember them criticizing Obama for just about anything except maybe killing Bin Laden.
Click to expand...

Imagine that, attacking a president of an opposing political ideology
 
X Factor said:
Eh, I think people are just mainly used to speaking for themselves and, as opposed to it showing a giant ego, it actually could indicate less confidence/bravado by showing a reluctance to speak for anyone else.
Click to expand...

I don't think it is necessarily an ego thing. It just always comes across as if the person is trying to sell themselves to me. I'm sure using it is pretty common for politicians and businessmen because that is actually their goal. I just wanted to point out that there has been a pretty noticeable switch to "we" more recently.
 
X Factor said:
Imagine that, attacking a president of an opposing political ideology
Click to expand...

No imagination necessary, but he at least did not do the same level of the insane stuff that this president is being criticized for.

At least his health care bill had public hearings, not back room sessions in which one party tried to ram through an important bill like health care.

Also he did not post the stupid things Trump writes on Twitter.

Nor did Obama claim stupid things like "Nobody reads the bible more than me", really Donald, nobody? Not even biblical scholars? The pope? Priests? Just about any protestant who goes to church on Sundays? Kids who go to bible camp? Children who go to Sunday school? Nobody reads the bible more than Donald Trump, puhlease, that is too ridiculous to believe IMHO.
 
X Factor said:
I do recall some conservatives making an issue out of that, yes, so I get your point, but I'd be pretty surprised if it was anywhere even near the neighborhood of all of us.
Click to expand...

Sorry, that was poorly phrased, I didn't mean to imply all conservatives. This was originally going to be a basement thread where I called out posters who'd made a point of it, but the search function doesn't recognise "I".
 
spud_meister said:
Sorry, that was poorly phrased, I didn't mean to imply all conservatives.
Click to expand...

Thank you for that. For sure some did make an issue of it. I remember the argument vividly.

This was originally going to be a basement thread where I called out posters who'd made a point of it, but the search function doesn't recognise "I".
Click to expand...

Yeah, you'd get more than a few responses with "I" as your search term. Try "man child" or narcissist.
 
Peter King said:
No imagination necessary, but he at least did not do the same level of the insane stuff that this president is being criticized for.

At least his health care bill had public hearings, not back room sessions in which one party tried to ram through an important bill like health care.

Also he did not post the stupid things Trump writes on Twitter.

Nor did Obama claim stupid things like "Nobody reads the bible more than me", really Donald, nobody? Not even biblical scholars? The pope? Priests? Just about any protestant who goes to church on Sundays? Kids who go to bible camp? Children who go to Sunday school? Nobody reads the bible more than Donald Trump, puhlease, that is too ridiculous to believe IMHO.
Click to expand...

The guy you like didn't do as many bad things as the guy you hate? Imagine that!
 
apdst said:
The guy you like didn't do as many bad things as the guy you hate? Imagine that!
Click to expand...

I don't like Obama, I respected his ethics and the work he did, he did things the right way when it came to health care, Trump and his republicans did not. And I dislike the guy with a passion, I only hate his politics, 2 very different things.
 
Peter King said:
I don't like Obama, I respected his ethics and the work he did, he did things the right way when it came to health care, Trump and his republicans did not. And I dislike the guy with a passion, I only hate his politics, 2 very different things.
Click to expand...

Obamacare is a ****ing joke. You're lying about not liking Obama.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom