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Will the right wing blame game work this time?

"once you create a major social program, it is political death to try to un-create it"

That's spot on. Once addicted to government handouts, many gladly give up much just to keep them coming. Of course once addicted to a government handout, government controls a part of your life, not individual

As you become ever more dependent, you end up giving any and all control of your life. Must be that some want to be a ward of the state, rather than make their own decisions and be responsible for them.

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At some point in time in the future, we as a nation may very well find ourselves in the dreadful position that we can't afford to support all those who have become dependent, and then kicking the government handout addiction is going to be more painful and more severe than if we had avoided the addiction in the first place.

If you are honest with yourself, you know this point in the future is coming. You just have to look at the ever increasing spending on 'mandatory' social services of the non-discretionary part of the national budget and the ever increasing national debit. Infinite increases in either isn't sustainable.

Oh dear! Pardon me while I clutch my pearls in distress. I'm on Medicare. I don't want anyone but me to control my life. You've got tell me right now, specifically, how the government is controlling my life! I want specific details. No theoretical bull****. I want facts so I can counter those ****ers and take my control back! I want facts right now!
 
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It was the Dems fault healthcare is in the mess that it is in today. They rammed through a partisan plan and now that it is falling apart at the seams they expect Republicans to fix it with more partisan fixes.
The GOP has the WH, the Senate, and the House, yet they refuse to fix it.

The GOP owns it lock, stock, and health care.
 
Oh dear! Pardon me while I clutch my pearls in distress. I'm on Medicare. I don't want anyone but me to control my life. You've got tell me right now, specifically, how the government is controlling my life! I want specific details. No theoretical bull****. I want facts so I can counter those ****ers and take my control back! I want facts right now!
The Alt Right want big pharma and health care and insurance to control your life.
 
Republicans are driving the car. If it runs off the road and winds up in a ditch, they did it. That's the way it works.

This from the party who is still blaming Reagan and GWB.
 
The GOP has the WH, the Senate, and the House, yet they refuse to fix it.

The GOP owns it lock, stock, and health care.

I'll take that as your admission that Obamacare sucks lock, stock, and health care and needs major fixing.
 
I'll take that as your admission that Obamacare sucks lock, stock, and health care and needs major fixing.
You can take it however you take it. The GOP owns the problem, and must live with their success or failure concerning it. The nation watches.
 
Oh dear! Pardon me while I clutch my pearls in distress. I'm on Medicare. I don't want anyone but me to control my life. You've got tell me right now, specifically, how the government is controlling my life! I want specific details. No theoretical bull****. I want facts so I can counter those ****ers and take my control back! I want facts right now!

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So who, exactly, is setting these limits in Medicare? Is this not control being exerted over you and your choices?
 
No, no one go there. Let hanger4 do his own research on this issue that is common knowledge to everyone else.

Not so, James. I brought it up, so the burden of proof is on me. That's why I've provided supporting links. I live to serve. :mrgreen:
 
Thanks

It was your "new rule" that confused me. The no filibuster on budget reconciliation was set forth in the 1974 Congressional Budget Act about 43 years ago.

I'm an old lady. 43 years is like last week to me. :mrgreen:
 
Really? The right wing blame game?

The left couldn't pass what they really wanted with their supermajority, and that was the Republican's dastardly doing....

And the Democrats can't figure out the simple trick they used? And they're supposed to be the smart ones?

So it is the Democrats fault that the GOP cannot get their members to say yes to anything? It could be the 8 years of saying nothing but "no" that caused that. It hard to change when you have been taking the easy way out for so long. Governing is entirely different from the GOP's behavior under Obama. It seems they forgot how .
 
The Alt Right want big pharma and health care and insurance to control your life.

What's that got to do with the government controlling my life. I want facts. I want evidence. Now. I'm waiting........
 
No, no one go there. Let hanger4 do his own research on this issue that is common knowledge to everyone else.

Do try and keep up;


Thanks

It was your "new rule" that confused me. The no filibuster on budget reconciliation was set forth in the 1974 Congressional Budget Act about 43 years ago.

Besides, a posters statements are the responsibly of said poster to substantiate. It's simple courtesy.
 
Do try and keep up;





Besides, a posters statements are the responsibly of said poster to substantiate. It's simple courtesy.
Not when is common knowledge and a poster is being smarmy in asking for it. Everyone, including you, knew the answer.
 
So it is the Democrats fault that the GOP cannot get their members to say yes to anything? It could be the 8 years of saying nothing but "no" that caused that. It hard to change when you have been taking the easy way out for so long. Governing is entirely different from the GOP's behavior under Obama. It seems they forgot how .

Again, the Democrats promised single-payer, yet "settled" for corporatist Obamacare because they couldn't unite under their own supermajority....

...and as we all remember, that was the "obstructionist", part of No" Republicans.

Remember?

What, I wonder, is different? Democrats are going to say no, and that is AGAIN the Republicans fault according to the Democrats?

Sure. It's the Republicans fault. Don't worry, nobody remembers the Democrats blaming them for the last 8 years as well.
 
Actually, the expanded Medicaid part is working just fine for the states that are participating in it. The Republicans are all hot to cut it so they can fund tax cuts because that's how they roll except for a few meanies that spoiled their party. The part that's not doing well is the Marketplace. That can and should be fixed through bi-partisan efforts. Truth hurts, I know. I know it's a terrible thing that this nasty law insures about 27 million more people than before. I know that Republicans would love to throw them all off so they could fund their tax cuts. Trouble is. A lot of them are Trump voters. Even Republican governors don't want Medicaid cut. Oops!

The tax cuts are a necessary part of tax reform...not because anyone is a "meanie". However, since the Congressional GOP have no intention of enacting tax reform, let not your heart be troubled. Now...where are the Democrat Party suggestions for fixing the Marketplace? Bipartisan means both Parties. The Democrats don't seem concerned...except to try to blame the Republican for not fixing their crap.

Just be honest when responding to my posts. Address the points in my posts. You trying to turn it back around against the Republicans just proves my point.
 
Not when is common knowledge and a poster is being smarmy in asking for it. Everyone, including you, knew the answer.

I just took hanger at his word; that's not a bad thing. It doesn't offend me to be asked to substantiate my statements. If he was playing dumb and took me in, I really don't care.
 
Not so, James. I brought it up, so the burden of proof is on me. That's why I've provided supporting links. I live to serve. :mrgreen:


I'm an old lady. 43 years is like last week to me. :mrgreen:

I always considered it common courtesy and even forum protocol, all though I've noticed over the years (I'm 63) the younger generations don't seem to think so. I also believe those that won't, can't and they know it.

Thanks again for the links.
 
Republicans are driving the car. If it runs off the road and winds up in a ditch, they did it. That's the way it works.

The Democrats already drove the car into the ditch. The Republicans are pretending at trying to get it out. The Democrats are just standing around trying to say it's all the Republican's fault.

Much as you are.
 
The Democrats already drove the car into the ditch. The Republicans are pretending at trying to get it out. The Democrats are just standing around trying to say it's all the Republican's fault.

Much as you are.

Well the car is in the ditch. I guess the gop is helpless
 
Your alternate reality won't work.

1. The Democrats shoved that crappy law down everyone's throat with no Republican support. They own it.

2. The Democrat have been talking for a long time about "fixing" Obamacare, but haven't done a thing to do it. They haven't proposed ANY fixes...ever...not before Trump and not after Trump.

The shear arrogance of the Democratic Party in even TRYING to pass the buck to the Republicans is downright pathetic.

The GOP has been boasting for 7 years how they were going to repeal and replace Obamacare.

Trump boasted several times during his campaign how easy it was going to be on "day one" to repeal and replace the ACA with "healthcare that was going to cover everyone at a cheaper cost and that it would be easy".

During 2017 the Democrats have been shut out by the GOP from all hearings or from any opportunity to offer amendments by the GOP.

When faced with the responsibility to actually put their money where their mouth is and legislate, the GOP have proven themselves to be impotent and Trump has proven his inability to lead his adopted party.

Your intellectual dishonesty and disconnection to reality is downright pathetic.
 
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