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Majority of republicans say colleges are bad for america (yes, really)

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The United States of America were much less divided just two years ago, when the majority of citizens largely agreed on some fundamental beliefs across party lines. Of those, that higher education leads to a better nation.

But in 2017, where it seems even nonpartisan issues and institutions have become boxed into sets of beliefs based on the major parties’ political agendas, stark divisions have been drawn on everything from the media to colleges and universities.
A Pew Research Center survey published Monday revealed voters have grown apart in their support of secondary education since the 2016 presidential election season, when a majority of Democratic and Republican Americans agreed the nation’s universities serve as a benefit for the U.S. Whereas 54 percent of Republicans said "colleges and universities had a positive impact on the way things were going in the country" in 2015, the majority now believe the opposite, with 58 percent saying such institutions negatively impact the state of the union.

Majority of Republicans Say Colleges Are Bad for America (Yes, Really)

The dumbing down of America. By Donald Trump and Co.
 
All of 'em are bad, except for the ones I attended.
 

If you were going to brainwash someone into believing a bunch of a obviously fantastic bull**** when do you think you'd be the most likely to succeed? When they were young children or when they were in their 20's?

Sunday School is where you get brainwashed as a child. College helps undo that damage. Those who are still brainwashed by religion undoubtedly can't understand that.
 
If you were going to brainwash someone into believing a bunch of a obviously fantastic bull**** when do you think you'd be the most likely to succeed? When they were young children or when they were in their 20's?

Sunday School is where you get brainwashed as a child. College helps undo that damage. Those who are still brainwashed by religion undoubtedly can't understand that.
MrWonka is 100% correct. Yes, sunday school is brainwashing central, parents are brainwashing central, and public schools are the brakes on those propaganda machines.
 
Well, when you can't find a $40.00 an hour plumber that speaks English, but You can get a college educated gardener mowing our lawn for $25 a week, and a college graduate doing pool service, then yeah, maybe its not for everyone like some kind of extra high school where you can get a diploma in fish psychology, $40 grand in debt and the one fish psychologist job in the state has been filled.

College for some is a one way ticket to the poor house. For others it is the pathway to success. Too many kids are sold a bill of goods with false promises.
 
College is not for everyone. Tech and trade skills is equally important. How many young adults earned a worthless degree in some field of study where the job market is very limited.

I also wonder why our high schools dropped some of the industrial art studies (auto shop, wood shop) and replaced them with fuzzy feel good classes. It was a mistake. We need to give high school age kids the opportunity to learn about trades as well as the sciences/engineering.
 
Well, when you can't find a $40.00 an hour plumber that speaks English, but You can get a college educated gardener mowing our lawn for $25 a week, and a college graduate doing pool service, then yeah, maybe its not for everyone like some kind of extra high school where you can get a diploma in fish psychology, $40 grand in debt and the one fish psychologist job in the state has been filled.

College for some is a one way ticket to the poor house. For others it is the pathway to success. Too many kids are sold a bill of goods with false promises.

College is not for everyone. Tech and trade skills is equally important. How many young adults earned a worthless degree in some field of study where the job market is very limited.

I also wonder why our high schools dropped some of the industrial art studies (auto shop, wood shop) and replaced them with fuzzy feel good classes. It was a mistake. We need to give high school age kids the opportunity to learn about trades as well as the sciences/engineering.

Neither of these acknowledge the reality that college is GOOD for America, and that the republican party has lost it.
 
MrWonka is 100% correct. Yes, sunday school is brainwashing central, parents are brainwashing central, and public schools are the brakes on those propaganda machines.

:lamo Public education has a long history of indoctrination throughout the world.
 
If you were going to brainwash someone into believing a bunch of a obviously fantastic bull**** when do you think you'd be the most likely to succeed? When they were young children or when they were in their 20's?

Sunday School is where you get brainwashed as a child. College helps undo that damage. Those who are still brainwashed by religion undoubtedly can't understand that.

I'm not relgous and I can't understand how you can say something so ignorant.
 
Neither of these acknowledge the reality that college is GOOD for America, and that the republican party has lost it.

Has the Dems or other parties come out in support for trade education?

Would you agree that getting a college degree in something that has limited jobs is not so good for America?
 
no

the point is that in order to control behaviour one merely has to gain control of someone's thought process and then begin to slowly mold it

follow the herd

Yes. The herd believing every poll of a couple thousand people (or often times less) as definitive evidence of what 300+ million people think, is a perfect example of herd mentality. No amount of denial on your part will change that. ;)
 
:lamo Public education has a long history of indoctrination throughout the world.
As does home and church and private schooling. Do you see the OP makes a silly point. College, in fact, is really good for developing critical thinking if the faculties are committed to it.
 
Yes. The herd believing every poll of a couple thousand people (or often times less) as definitive evidence of what 300+ million people think, is a perfect example of herd mentality. No amount of denial on your part will change that. ;)

well that's pretty assumptive of you to believe that I would stretch it to that level of inclusion at this early stage

usually things begin on a much smaller scale, ...the herd ignores the wolf as being too far away to be meaningful even as the wolf slowly creeps closer they become used to the wolf and the shorting distance

that's the insidious and successful part about it ;)
 
Yes. The herd believing every poll of a couple thousand people (or often times less) as definitive evidence of what 300+ million people think, is a perfect example of herd mentality. No amount of denial on your part will change that. ;)
The Trump herd is proof positive of your statement.
 
well that's pretty assumptive of you to believe that I would stretch it to that level of inclusion at this early stage

usually things begin on a much smaller scale, ...the herd ignores the wolf as being too far away to be meaningful even as the wolf slowly creeps closer they become used to the wolf and the shorting distance

that's the insidious and successful part about it ;)

Reality doesn't require you to acknowledge it.
 
College is not for everyone. Tech and trade skills is equally important. How many young adults earned a worthless degree in some field of study where the job market is very limited.

I also wonder why our high schools dropped some of the industrial art studies (auto shop, wood shop) and replaced them with fuzzy feel good classes. It was a mistake. We need to give high school age kids the opportunity to learn about trades as well as the sciences/engineering.

I think it's important that primary ed provides pathways into viable skilled trades as well as, say STEM fields. When I was in HS back in the 1970's that was the case. Carpentry, HVAC and a couple of other choices were available. It's true that college isn't for everyone.
 
Yes. The herd believing every poll of a couple thousand people (or often times less) as definitive evidence of what 300+ million people think, is a perfect example of herd mentality. No amount of denial on your part will change that. ;)

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

It's a scientific poll. But hey, science isn't a GOP thing either.
 
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