Everything Trump Has Done So Far

ModerateGOP said:

:lamo Nice try not placing the blame on Trump. :lamo

But instead of taking it like man and admitting that it was Trump who singed all these bills, you push them onto McConnell and Ryan. Signatures don't matter to you, apparently, but see I wasn't hiding how bad the Republican Party has functioned under Trump. That just goes to prove my original point that nothing amazing has been passed by the Republican controlled government in six months. Especially no larger agenda based items that Trump promised the whole country he would do on day one.

Maybe you think Trump thinks he was elected to do nothing but sit on his butt all day, but idt he realizes that. Otherwise why would he be bragging about all he did on twitter??? Perhaps he is purposely lying to make himself look good?? Classic Trump.

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You keep clinging to the notion that Trump is part of the legislature. It's a simple yes/no question: Is Donald Trump part of the legislature? Once you figure that out you'll realize that you're wrong.

reinoe said:

The primary function of the executive is listed in the Constitution. The only "team" he truly needs to work with is the team he's selected to enact his goals in the Executive branch. Trump isn't the leader of the GOP. That's a figment of your imagination. He's the president of the U.S.

Here's the Leader of the Republican party...

Chairperson Ronna Romney McDaniel (MI)

You don't seem to grasp that I literally don't care about Trump's supposed legislative agenda. It never factored into the equation. You know why? Because he ran for the presidency not Congress. You keep desperately trying to tie the failures of Congress to the president and it will never be relevant to me. EVER.

You haters keep thinking Trump is some sort of GOD-EMPEROR who controls the entire party, the senate, the house, the Republican party, and lord knows what else. I hope you read The Constitution to get a better grasp of how the government works.

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So Trump is going to build a wall, reform immigration, repeal the ACA etc.

He said he was going to do that. All candidates for president say similar things.

All those things require legislation to be passed. Do you really seriously believe that Presidents put together their agenda for the country and then sit around passively and hope and pray that Congress will send them a bill to sign?

And yes all Presidents are the de facto heads of their political party regardless of who the party chairperson is. Obama was the de facto head of the Democratic Party during his time in office and Bush was the de facto head of the Republican Party when he was president.

Gaius46 said:

So Trump is going to build a wall, reform immigration, repeal the ACA etc.

He said he was going to do that. All candidates for president say similar things.

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And anyone who believed it was a fool.

If you truly believe Trump is in charge of legislation then it stands to reason that you believe he can fire Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell. Can he? Yes or no?

reinoe said:

You keep clinging to the notion that Trump is part of the legislature. It's a simple yes/no question: Is Donald Trump part of the legislature? Once you figure that out you'll realize that you're wrong.

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Why was he bragging about this very list on twitter? You never answered my question. Maybe Trump doesn't know he isn't part of the legislature. Ever think of that?

ModerateGOP said:

Why was he bragging about this very list on twitter? You never answered my question. Maybe Trump doesn't know he isn't part of the legislature. Ever think of that?

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Who cares what Trump bragged about?

Trump bragged about saving the jobs at Carrier and that wasn't true either. Pence was the one who made the deal. Seriously, if Trump were to say "the sky is green" would you believe that too? You haters cling to the most irrational bull**** and desperately try to make mountains out of molehills. Scratch that, you folks make mountains out of literally nothing.

I didn't think anything could top the pettiness when your type whined about Trump getting two scoops of ice cream. I got proven wrong when you folks went all in on how it's a crime against humanity that Trump retweeted a gif of him beating up a CNN logo.

reinoe said:

Who cares what Trump bragged about?

Trump bragged about saving the jobs at Carrier and that wasn't true either. Pence was the one who made the deal. Seriously, if Trump were to say "the sky is green" would you believe that too? You haters cling to the most irrational bull**** and desperately try to make mountains out of molehills. Scratch that, you folks make mountains out of literally nothing.

I didn't think anything could top the pettiness when your type whined about Trump getting two scoops of ice cream. I got proven wrong when you folks went all in on how it's a crime against humanity that Trump retweeted a gif of him beating up a CNN logo.

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Oh right nothing is Trump's fault. Not even the good stuff that he brags about accomplishing. :roll:
You better let him know that he has accomplished NOTHING. He doesn't seem to know that or he's lying to you and is really a constitutional lawyer. Oh wait that was the last guy. Never mind.
Did you give Obama or Bush the same leniency? I doubt it.

ModerateGOP said:

Oh right nothing is Trump's fault. Not even the good stuff that he brags about accomplishing. :roll:
You better let him know that he has accomplished NOTHING. He doesn't seem to know that or he's lying to you and is really a constitutional lawyer. Oh wait that was the last guy. Never mind.
Did you give Obama or Bush the same leniency? I doubt it.

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Trump is responsible for the things he actually does,\; not the heinous crimes you conjour up out of thin air, or things that other people are responsible for. And yes, I generally gave Obama the same leniency. I don't know what question you asked that I didn't answer, perhaps you could repeat it? In the meantime maybe you should answer if Trump has the ability to fire Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan. That seem to be the premise of your thread. If Trump cannot fire Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell then Trump is not actually in charge of legislation.

reinoe said:

Trump is responsible for the things he actually does,\; not the heinous crimes you conjour up out of thin air, or things that other people are responsible for. And yes, I generally gave Obama the same leniency. I don't know what question you asked that I didn't answer, perhaps you could repeat it? In the meantime maybe you should answer if Trump has the ability to fire Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan. That seem to be the premise of your thread.

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No the premise of my thread is to talk about the bills that Trump has signed and his failing agenda. That is what a President normally does, not tweeting. You seem to want to give Trump the ability to fire Ryan and McConnell though based on the way you keep asking about it.

ModerateGOP said:

No the premise of my thread is to talk about the bills that Trump has signed and his failing agenda. That is what a President normally does, not tweeting. You seem to want to give Trump the ability to fire Ryan and McConnell though based on the way you keep asking about it.

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Trump can't sign bills that don't reach his desk. You're the one who said Trump is in charge of legislation. You can retract your laughably false statement at any time.

reinoe said:

Trump can't sign bills that don't reach his desk. You're the one who said Trump is in charge of legislation. You can retract your laughably false statement at any time.

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If you have a problem with the grammar of this article. Take it up with CBS, not me! Although I think CBS has a better understanding of our system than some person on the internet. Continue think everything with Trump's signature on it is something he has no part in.

ModerateGOP said:

If you have a problem with the grammar of this article. Take it up with CBS, not me! Although I think CBS has a better understanding of our system than some person on the internet. Continue think everything with Trump's signature on it is something he has no part in.

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So let me get this right:

You blame Trump for writing bills...

When those bills don't get signed...

You blame Trump for not writing bills...

Then you say "everything with Trump's signature he has no part in", when my primary crux has and always will be "Trump can't sign legislation that doesn't reach his desk. You're a textbook example of a Trump hater trying to eat his cake and have it too. Blaming Trump for legislation that fails, even though he's not part of the legislature, while also blaming Trump for not signing more bills as executive. And to cap it off, you're blaming CBS for the poor wording. But if you're willing to admit that the MSM misled you about how bills become law then I'll accept that. Nobody should ever trust the MSM.

reinoe said:

So let me get this right:

You blame Trump for writing bills...

When those bills don't get signed...

You blame Trump for not writing bills...

Then you say "everything with Trump's signature he has no part in", when my primary crux has and always will be "Trump can't sign legislation that doesn't reach his desk. You're a textbook example of a Trump hater trying to eat his cake and have it too. Blaming Trump for legislation that fails, even though he's not part of the legislature, while also blaming Trump for not signing more bills as executive. And to cap it off, you're blaming CBS for the poor wording. But if you're willing to admit that the MSM misled you about how bills become law then I'll accept that. Nobody should ever trust the MSM.

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You are forgetting that these are the bills that he has signed.... :roll:

reinoe said:

And anyone who believed it was a fool.

If you truly believe Trump is in charge of legislation then it stands to reason that you believe he can fire Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell. Can he? Yes or no?

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I didn't say he "was in charge of legislation. "

I said he has to work with the legislature - he has to lead the membership of his party and the legislature as a whole - to get his agenda passed.

Leadership doesn't mean "I'm the boss and you have to do as I say or you get fired".

Leadership means deciding what needs to be done and then getting the people you need to make it reality on board with the idea. It means convincing people not ordering them.

Trump said he'd build a wall, he said he'd replace Obamacare - it's his responsibility to get the Congress on board - its his responsibility to use his office to convince Congress that his vision is the right one.

And he's failing.

Not that I'm complaining I think his vision is the wrong one. But anyone who still harbors any idea that he's a leader just isn't paying attention or has no clue what leadership really is.

Rex Tillerson is a leader. Trump could learn a **** load about leadership from him. But it seems that Trump doesn't listen to anyone.

ModerateGOP said:

Trump has signed an average normal amount of legislation into effect in his young Presidency. He is neck and neck with Bill Clinton who signed 41 bills in 150 days. Despite what Trump says that no other President besides him and Roosevelt got more done. Starting with Carter, most Presidents did sign more bills in 150 days!

It should be noted that he has not worked out a tax plan. He has not repealed and replaced Obamacare. He has not secured funding for a big beautiful wall. And it's not in the 2017 budget and likely never will be. Most of the bills roll back Obama legislation and some of them appoints people.... As I said before about the Gorsuch, "accomplishment," that's just going through the motions. If he gets any of his larger bills through both houses, I will be impressed with him. As for now though, the laundry list looks a little light.



What are the bills Donald Trump has signed? - CBS News

Sorry couldn't fit all the bills on one thread.

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1. The only bills Trump is able to consider whether to sign or not are the ones that Congress sends him. To complain that Trump isn't passing bills that Congress hasn't sent him is complaining about the wrong person.

2. Trump has actually done a lot on his own just by EO and EA. Here is a list of 42 actions by Trump in just the first 3 months or so: All of Trump’s major executive actions so far

3. Trump has also worked with other countries on the issues of international trade and foreign policy.

So...to say that Trump hasn't done much...that his agenda is failing...and to base that claim only on the number of bills that Congress has sent him and he has signed...a Congress that is primarily oppositional to him...is, at best, spin and, at worst, a deliberate lie.