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Thank you GOP for fixing healthcare!

Dittohead not! said:
Nothing stupid about Public option, single payer, price transparency, more autonomy for mid level provider, or any of that.

Training more doctors would help. As it is, it seems like half of the doctors you see were trained somewhere else. Maybe opening more medical schools is the answer. Encouraging more students to study medicine would be another, which is why I suggested free tuition in return for a period of public service.
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That's a different story.

Medical schools are very expensive to establish and run.

Don't see how that will decrease health care costs, especially when you have to subsidize the cost with free tuition.
 
Threegoofs said:
That's a different story.

Medical schools are very expensive to establish and run.

Don't see how that will decrease health care costs, especially when you have to subsidize the cost with free tuition.
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If we have enough doctors currently, then it might not.

Do we have enough doctors?
 
Dittohead not! said:
True enough.
That's one of the arguments against universal health care - there aren't enough doctors.
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And it's a terrible argument, because the people who frame it are pretending that we dont have enough docs to provide care for the US population, so some must do without. That's wrong.

There are plenty of FMGs that will be more than happy to practice in the US.
 
This comment is not intended to endorse either side of the argument.

But simply as a matter of truth-telling, and analysis legitimization:

It is an error to static-model a dynamic situation.

Further, the healthcare struggle in the U.S. is vastly less about medical protocols, ie where to place the stethoscope when listening to a patient's respiration

than it is about rendering healthcare administration more efficient.

That remaining the case, the number of doctors argument would be a wash. If there wouldn't be enough doctors then, would there be enough doctors now?

And I thought it was a REPUBLICAN mantra to "let the [ostensibly free] market work". Doctors finding patients under an improved healthcare system in the U.S. is an exception?
 
Threegoofs said:
And it's a terrible argument, because the people who frame it are pretending that we dont have enough docs to provide care for the US population, so some must do without. That's wrong.

There are plenty of FMGs that will be more than happy to practice in the US.
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FMG?
If we train enough doctors in the USA to take care of our population, why are there so many doctors who are from somewhere else?

and why is it we can't provide medical care to all of our population.... never mind. That one is political and has nothing to do with the actual ability to take care of our own citizens.
 
JamesBY said:
The problem is not the number but where they are located.
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Which is why free tuition in return for practicing in an underserved location would be a good idea.
No doubt, there is more money in providing face lifts to the wealthy than in taking care of patients in Appalachia.
 
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" there is more money in providing face lifts to the wealthy than in taking care of patients in Appalachia. "
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Dittohead not! said:
FMG?
If we train enough doctors in the USA to take care of our population, why are there so many doctors who are from somewhere else?

and why is it we can't provide medical care to all of our population.... never mind. That one is political and has nothing to do with the actual ability to take care of our own citizens.
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We don't train enough docs in the US.

That's a separate issue from whether we HAVE enough docs in the US.
 
Threegoofs said:
We don't train enough docs in the US.

That's a separate issue from whether we HAVE enough docs in the US.
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and the strategy of making up the difference by importing doctors from abroad, do you think that's a good idea?
 
Dittohead not! said:
and the strategy of making up the difference by importing doctors from abroad, do you think that's a good idea?
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Well, you did say you wanted to control health care costs.

What better way than making other countries assume the cost of expensive medical education and then poaching the best and brightest of their graduates to work here? And then have them go deliver care to underserved communities in exchange for permanent residency?
 
Threegoofs said:
Well, you did say you wanted to control health care costs.

What better way than making other countries assume the cost of expensive medical education and then poaching the best and brightest of their graduates to work here? And then have them go deliver care to underserved communities in exchange for permanent residency?
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Can't argue with that one. Foisting the cost of training doctors onto other nations should save us a few bucks.
 
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