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Nothing New About Democrat Hate

jet57 said:
It IS good; been a long time comin. Drain the swamp.

Are you afraid we won't make it?
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Dunno if we are going to 'make it' or not. What's the definition of 'make it' we are working under?

I suppose, after it's all over, everyone will meet back in the middle? Kinda where most would most likely belong?
 
eohrnberger said:
Dunno if we are going to 'make it' or not. What's the definition of 'make it' we are working under?

I suppose, after it's all over, everyone will meet back in the middle? Kinda where most would most likely belong?
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Definition of "Make it" = survive and be better for it.

As for the middle, you're right; that's where the truth lies anyway.

Note* People on the left are indeed getting more violent now; I've predicted this along time ago if you'll recall: happens every time. The same thing happened in the 30s and then again in the 60s. It'll get a whole lot worse as the hegemony in this country continues to deny it and keep abusing people in order to maintain their market share.

Please see the history of Ireland and the Middle East with a quick read of Early American history for a primer on today's situation. A look at Russian history wouldn't be a bad idea either.
 
Fenton Lum said:
Not lie this, no:

https://www.propublica.org/article/...rules-let-lobbyist-help-run-agency-he-lobbied

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/12/...s-now-theyre-on-his-transition-team.html?_r=0

Donald Trump Cabinet: Is He Really Draining the Swamp?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...7d93165c6d4_story.html?utm_term=.c6f6ade76246

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-...ry-lobbyist-to-hud-transition-team-1480453288

https://theintercept.com/2017/01/27/coal-doj-trump/

http://fortune.com/2016/11/16/trump-lobbyists-dc-establishment/
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The man's an humiliation to this country and a quick sand of contradiction: that;s what megalomaniacs do in what they consider 'normal behavior'.

Nice links.

As as for survival, we've been in much worse situations, it always comes to blows however and this time will be no different and the hegemony always loses the fight and this time will be no different on that account either.
 
eohrnberger said:
The country is politically tearing itself in half, and you see it as good. Hmm.

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Actually the country is uniting against evil like we always do. That is how we have survived all these years. And yes I said Trump is evil.
 
iguanaman said:
Actually the country is uniting against evil like we always do. That is how we have survived all these years. And yes I said Trump is evil.
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Which evil do you believe that the country is uniting against? The evil of those who hold different opinions and different policy positions than the lefts?

'Cause it sure looks like a concerted and coordinated effort to stamp those out with left wing violence.
 
eohrnberger said:
Which evil do you believe that the country is uniting against? The evil of those who hold different opinions and different policy positions than the lefts?

'Cause it sure looks like a concerted and coordinated effort to stamp those out with left wing violence.
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The strength and welfare of this great nation is at stake and the rule of law is what will thwart the assault. This is about much more than "policy". You blind partisan eyes are oblivious but no matter.
 
eohrnberger said:
Which evil do you believe that the country is uniting against? The evil of those who hold different opinions and different policy positions than the lefts?

'Cause it sure looks like a concerted and coordinated effort to stamp those out with left wing violence.
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Of course it does. When you're a perpetual right-wing victim, everything is a conspiracy against you.
 
iguanaman said:
The strength and welfare of this great nation is at stake and the rule of law is what will thwart the assault. This is about much more than "policy". You blind partisan eyes are oblivious but no matter.
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Rule of law?

So according to the 'rule of law', why is it that when Comey applies an invented 'lack of intent' standard to the felony of mishandling classified materials (which doesn't exist), and he's not called to account for it? And his decision not to prosecute is not vacated? (something that was beyond his purview as director FBI, BTW)

So according to the 'rule of law', why is it that no one in the federal government appears to be serious about tracking down the leakers of classified information that are doing damage to the nation and the presently, legitimately elected administration?

So according to the 'rule of law', why is it that no one is even considering the illegalities of an administration's excessive FISA court requests conveniently catching the opposition party and of the opposition candidate? That which is clearly of political motivation rather than a nation security concern?

So according to the 'rule of law', why is it that no one is even considering the illegalities of an administration's routine unmasking of those US citizens caught up in FISA granted surveillance (a 4th amendment right violation), and then the expanded distribution of that surveillance intel per EO 12333?

So according to the 'rule of law', why is it that no one calls out the clear conflict of interest of a sitting AG's meeting with the husband of a presidential candidate while that candidate is under FBI investigation out on a tarmac, assumed to be out of public eye?

So according to the 'rule of law', why is it that the close personal and professional relationship between a former FBI directory and an appointed special counselor, something is clearly prohibited by the statute, is ignored?

'Rule of law' my ass. That's pablum fed to masses (sheeple) to keep them quite. This nation is no longer a nation held by 'rule of law', given that we have two systems and standards of laws, one for the political elite where nearly anything can be forgiven, depending on the political situation, and another for the unwashed masses, where nothing is forgiven.

'Rule of law' my ass.
 
eohrnberger said:
Rule of law?

So according to the 'rule of law', why is it that when Comey applies an invented 'lack of intent' standard to the felony of mishandling classified materials (which doesn't exist), and he's not called to account for it? And his decision not to prosecute is not vacated? (something that was beyond his purview as director FBI, BTW)

So according to the 'rule of law', why is it that no one in the federal government appears to be serious about tracking down the leakers of classified information that are doing damage to the nation and the presently, legitimately elected administration?

So according to the 'rule of law', why is it that no one is even considering the illegalities of an administration's excessive FISA court requests conveniently catching the opposition party and of the opposition candidate? That which is clearly of political motivation rather than a nation security concern?

So according to the 'rule of law', why is it that no one is even considering the illegalities of an administration's routine unmasking of those US citizens caught up in FISA granted surveillance (a 4th amendment right violation), and then the expanded distribution of that surveillance intel per EO 12333?

So according to the 'rule of law', why is it that no one calls out the clear conflict of interest of a sitting AG's meeting with the husband of a presidential candidate while that candidate is under FBI investigation out on a tarmac, assumed to be out of public eye?

So according to the 'rule of law', why is it that the close personal and professional relationship between a former FBI directory and an appointed special counselor, something is clearly prohibited by the statute, is ignored?

'Rule of law' my ass. That's pablum fed to masses (sheeple) to keep them quite. This nation is no longer a nation held by 'rule of law', given that we have two systems and standards of laws, one for the political elite where nearly anything can be forgiven, depending on the political situation, and another for the unwashed masses, where nothing is forgiven.

'Rule of law' my ass.
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Greetings, Erik. :2wave:

The last sentence in your post totally sums things up for me! :thumbs: I'd like to see which law books are being used these days, because the margins on the pages in them have got to be so cluttered with all the written notations that say "this does not apply to the political elite" that they must look so sloppy! I further wonder if some of the notations have big smiley faces too! :shock:

Edit: IIRC, Bill Clinton fired 93 attorneys in one day shortly after he was elected. Should Trump consider doing the same?....
 
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eohrnberger said:
Rule of law?

So according to the 'rule of law', why is it that when Comey applies an invented 'lack of intent' standard to the felony of mishandling classified materials (which doesn't exist), and he's not called to account for it? And his decision not to prosecute is not vacated? (something that was beyond his purview as director FBI, BTW)

So according to the 'rule of law', why is it that no one in the federal government appears to be serious about tracking down the leakers of classified information that are doing damage to the nation and the presently, legitimately elected administration?

So according to the 'rule of law', why is it that no one is even considering the illegalities of an administration's excessive FISA court requests conveniently catching the opposition party and of the opposition candidate? That which is clearly of political motivation rather than a nation security concern?

So according to the 'rule of law', why is it that no one is even considering the illegalities of an administration's routine unmasking of those US citizens caught up in FISA granted surveillance (a 4th amendment right violation), and then the expanded distribution of that surveillance intel per EO 12333?

So according to the 'rule of law', why is it that no one calls out the clear conflict of interest of a sitting AG's meeting with the husband of a presidential candidate while that candidate is under FBI investigation out on a tarmac, assumed to be out of public eye?

So according to the 'rule of law', why is it that the close personal and professional relationship between a former FBI directory and an appointed special counselor, something is clearly prohibited by the statute, is ignored?

'Rule of law' my ass. That's pablum fed to masses (sheeple) to keep them quite. This nation is no longer a nation held by 'rule of law', given that we have two systems and standards of laws, one for the political elite where nearly anything can be forgiven, depending on the political situation, and another for the unwashed masses, where nothing is forgiven.

'Rule of law' my ass.
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You are so caught up in the party/opposition party rhetoric you fail to see the underlying corruption and lawlessness of Trump. It has pervaded his entire administration and has nothing to do with Hillary or Obama. You want to make new rules for Trump that give him immunity in a desperate attempt to salvage your ego which you unwisely tied to a known fraudster and conman. I can't even feel sorry for you.
 
polgara said:
Greetings, Erik. :2wave:

The last sentence in your post totally sums things up for me! :thumbs: I'd like to see which law books are being used these days, because the margins on the pages in them have got to be so cluttered with all the written notations that say "this does not apply to the political elite" that they must look so sloppy! I further wonder if some of the notations have big smiley faces too! :shock:

Edit: IIRC, Bill Clinton fired 93 attorneys in one day shortly after he was elected. Should Trump consider doing the same?....
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Your prayers are going to answered when the elite -est politician of them all, the President is going to be subject to those law books. No one is above the law.
 
iguanaman said:
You elected the king of the birthers and you dare talk about hate?
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The GOP hatred in 2009 over ACA set the standard for where we are now with R/R in secret .
 
ModerateRN said:
The Republican Party was there in the trenches flinging mud back. Hyper-partisan should be abolished not advocated. These types of threads that are solely about trying to trigger the opposite party just clog up the pages and slow the progression of meaningful debate and discussion.

Did you join this site to pick fights or engage debate and discussion?
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Oh please just stop.

I have been a conservative for decades probably longer than you have been here on earth.

Look at the rancor against anyone who believes in less government.
Look at the hatred toward those who fight for Constitutional rights!
Look at the absolute outpour of wringing hands and gnashing of teeth of the left if one dare mentions PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.
Look at all the whining on the left every time someone brings up states rights.
Look at the outpour of self-righteous indignation over finally having those who uphold our immigration laws. And if they would have been upheld for decades we wouldn't have an illegal immigration problem.
Look at the friggen debt! And who whines when those who want to cut the budget? Why the left of course. Sorry lots of us out here don't want this dang burden left to our children and our grandchildren. And we have made our voices heard. Because our debt has now become a national security issue.

Right now there is a major effort going on to bring about a Convention of States where the states will let the establishment and all the lobbyists will have a huge pushback and then, maybe then this country will be put back on it's original footing. That's my hope. But like anything that bucks the opposition is going to be faced with resistance.
 
trouble13 said:
I feel like we are on the verge of a civil war. I think the left's indifference and callousness may be the final match to light the inferno. Its sad that people are going to need to die in order to settle this dispute.

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GOP talk and action of a 2nd civil war began with WJC in 1993 .
 
ModerateRN said:
The Republican Party was there in the trenches flinging mud back. Hyper-partisan should be abolished not advocated. These types of threads that are solely about trying to trigger the opposite party just clog up the pages and slow the progression of meaningful debate and discussion.

Did you join this site to pick fights or engage debate and discussion?
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It should be obvious to you; with the GOPartisan responses to you; that you stumbled onto the wrong forum; if you intend to be a Moderate, RN .
 
iguanaman said:
You are so caught up in the party/opposition party rhetoric you fail to see the underlying corruption and lawlessness of Trump. It has pervaded his entire administration and has nothing to do with Hillary or Obama. You want to make new rules for Trump that give him immunity in a desperate attempt to salvage your ego which you unwisely tied to a known fraudster and conman. I can't even feel sorry for you.
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So where are the criminal charges for all this corruption that you profess exists?

So far we have Trump / Russia collusion: Whiff. Nothing there.

Now we have obstruction meme, and guess what? What's gonna end up being a whiff as well.

Which ridiculous meme is the left going to trot out next? You know darn well that constant stream of baseless leftist attacks isn't gonna stop.

At least the points I raised are backed by facts and these events really did occur. So far against Trump, the left CTs are batting nada. Zip. Zero. Zilch. The square root of jack.

It'd be a completely different matter if there actually were some evidence, some facts, something besides gossip, rumors, and innuendo, but those simply aren't enough, and neither is single source anonymous leaks writ large and loud by the political propaganda 'news' media. These are simply not enough with the legal system we have. Show me the money. The left and it's unfounded claims of malfeasance have destroyed their credibility, so no more benefit of the doubt. Show me the money.

"Trump is guilty! We just need an investigation to find out what he's guilty of!"
Yeah, that's like legitimate. :roll:

Perhaps you'd like a different legal system, like "anyone and anything that the left doesn't like, doesn't want, should be put to immediate death / legally prohibited without a trial or due consideration?" Would that appease the left more? Is that what it would take for them to behave themselves like most other civilized people? Like most other adults?

No, I'm not "caught up in the party/opposition party rhetoric". I'm critical of Trump for being stupid on occasion, for doing the wrong thing the wrong way, and shooting himself and his administration in their own feet with a 50 caliber with his big mouth. Those are all his to own, without question. Those are things based on facts, on real events that did actually occur, and not on single source anonymous leaks writ large and loud by the political propaganda 'news' media.

I'd like to see him improve. Perhaps he will, perhaps he won't. We'll have to wait and see.

And still, in all that, I still think that Hillary would have been a worse president and would have been worse for the country.

If there's anyone that's "caught up in the party/opposition party rhetoric" it would appear to be the leftists and the 'political propaganda 'news' media.
 
polgara said:
Greetings, Erik. :2wave:

The last sentence in your post totally sums things up for me! :thumbs: I'd like to see which law books are being used these days, because the margins on the pages in them have got to be so cluttered with all the written notations that say "this does not apply to the political elite" that they must look so sloppy! I further wonder if some of the notations have big smiley faces too! :shock:

Edit: IIRC, Bill Clinton fired 93 attorneys in one day shortly after he was elected. Should Trump consider doing the same?....
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Yes, Bill did, and nary a word was said. Any Republican doing the same, the Earth opened up and swallowed all of Western civilization. Such is the consistency, honesty and integrity of the political propaganda 'news' media. Go figure.
 
eohrnberger said:
Yes, Bill did, and nary a word was said. Any Republican doing the same, the Earth opened up and swallowed all of Western civilization. Such is the consistency, honesty and integrity of the political propaganda 'news' media. Go figure.
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I see you're a 100 percenter also .
 
NIMBY said:
I see you're a 100 percenter also .
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And I see you as always is the one who wants to re-write the Constitution in the name of victimhood, social justice, and all those things that should have nothing to do with our Republic.
 
NIMBY said:
It should be obvious to you; with the GOPartisan responses to you; that you stumbled onto the wrong forum; if you intend to be a Moderate, RN .
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Bias and ignorance are everywhere. It's okay; this forum is still very fun.
 
vesper said:
And I see you as always is the one who wants to re-write the Constitution in the name of victimhood, social justice, and all those things that should have nothing to do with our Republic.
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conservovictimitis card alert
 
eohrnberger said:
So where are the criminal charges for all this corruption that you profess exists?

So far we have Trump / Russia collusion: Whiff. Nothing there.

Now we have obstruction meme, and guess what? What's gonna end up being a whiff as well.

Which ridiculous meme is the left going to trot out next? You know darn well that constant stream of baseless leftist attacks isn't gonna stop.

At least the points I raised are backed by facts and these events really did occur. So far against Trump, the left CTs are batting nada. Zip. Zero. Zilch. The square root of jack.

It'd be a completely different matter if there actually were some evidence, some facts, something besides gossip, rumors, and innuendo, but those simply aren't enough, and neither is single source anonymous leaks writ large and loud by the political propaganda 'news' media. These are simply not enough with the legal system we have. Show me the money. The left and it's unfounded claims of malfeasance have destroyed their credibility, so no more benefit of the doubt. Show me the money.

"Trump is guilty! We just need an investigation to find out what he's guilty of!"
Yeah, that's like legitimate. :roll:

Perhaps you'd like a different legal system, like "anyone and anything that the left doesn't like, doesn't want, should be put to immediate death / legally prohibited without a trial or due consideration?" Would that appease the left more? Is that what it would take for them to behave themselves like most other civilized people? Like most other adults?

No, I'm not "caught up in the party/opposition party rhetoric". I'm critical of Trump for being stupid on occasion, for doing the wrong thing the wrong way, and shooting himself and his administration in their own feet with a 50 caliber with his big mouth. Those are all his to own, without question. Those are things based on facts, on real events that did actually occur, and not on single source anonymous leaks writ large and loud by the political propaganda 'news' media.

I'd like to see him improve. Perhaps he will, perhaps he won't. We'll have to wait and see.

And still, in all that, I still think that Hillary would have been a worse president and would have been worse for the country.

If there's anyone that's "caught up in the party/opposition party rhetoric" it would appear to be the leftists and the 'political propaganda 'news' media.
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As usual you left out the Justice Dept., the FBI and a special counselor who are actively investigating Trump and his partners in crime. Not just for collusion and obstruction, there is monsy laundering too. There will be plenty of evidence becasue that is what investigators do, get evidence so be patient. Mueller is the Eliot Ness of his generation and he will leave no stone unturned as it should be. How can you be so sure that Trump can stand up to that kind of scrutiny? When Trumps lawyer gets a lawyer I think you can guess that charges are going to be filed on someone and it isn't going to be Hillary.
 
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