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Is Trump fighting Russian election interference?

What if...? said:
Are you being deliberately obtuse?

I clearly said they wouldn't be knocked down. Just throttled down on grabbing more new wealth than is healthy for the economy overall. Nothing taken. Just limits on how much more they can acquire in a given timeframe.

Limiting ascendancy, is not pulling down.
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If you cut off their ability to earn anything more than they already have then you are cutting them down.
 
Moderate Right said:
Yep. I have dealt with you enough to know that getting through your forcefield is all but impossible.
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It is obvious that you cannot even get through to yourself since you refuse to articulate a cogent rebuttal.
 
Casca XV said:
These same Intelligence Agencies and Dick Cheney also said there were WMD's in Iraq.

Unlike the "Russia attacked our core democratic institutions" allegations, there was some supporting evidence of WMD's in Iraq.

Before we end up in another war, with a nation that can hurt us. ("Hurt us" being the understatement of the century) Maybe we should have some actual evidence.

In fact there is evidence that this allegation is BS : Emails released by Wikileaks showing Democrats were conspiring to play up the Bromance between Putin and Trump.
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The issue here is NOT Iraq. Stop using it.
 
What if...? said:
Lol
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Yes you were proven wrong. Thanks for admitting that by not replying.


What if...? said:
The voters minds/perceptions are part of the election process.
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And if they believe the 17 Agency lie 17 and "election interference" lie, they are misinformed, and they continue to believe such nonsense after being informed, they shouldn't be voting.


What if...? said:
My wife got a bunch of those posts on the Bernie feeds. The ones coming from overseas.

Obvious propaganda. Dishonest, and distinguishable from the surrounding hysteria/outrage.
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That is not interference.
What you are saying is that you have anecdotal evidence that a "run of the mill", every day average voter, wasn't influenced by such. :thumbs:


What if...? said:
Also, the bill leaves the original EO intact. So the bill doesnt use the language but the language still applies as its in the EO that still stands.
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1. THe Legislation would leave the sanctions intact.
2. Irrelevant.
No interference has been shown or proven.


What if...? said:
So as usual you limit the factors to only those that support your position. Boring.
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No, that is what you doing even though none has been shown or even proven.

And if your bored, you don't have to reply. :shrug:
 
haymarket said:
Because they attacked our core democratic institutions in what former VP Dick Cheney called AN ACT OF WAR.
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Come on - the phrase "attack in kind" comes in here. Are we not smart enough to deal with hacking? If not, I'd prefer we got smarter rather than started hurling A-bombs.
 
ray188 said:
Come on - the phrase "attack in kind" comes in here. Are we not smart enough to deal with hacking? If not, I'd prefer we got smarter rather than started hurling A-bombs.
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I have no idea what you are talking about.
 
haymarket said:
I have no idea what you are talking about.
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If this was "an act of war" then we should declare war - of the same type. Instead of all this political "investigating" we should get the techies working at the cyber counter-attack, not hurl bombs. An earlier posting suggested "war" in the more traditional sense.
 
ray188 said:
If this was "an act of war" then we should declare war - of the same type. Instead of all this political "investigating" we should get the techies working at the cyber counter-attack, not hurl bombs. An earlier posting suggested "war" in the more traditional sense.
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Why would we not want to find out exactly how this was done and all facets of how it was done and if Americans helped to make it possible?
 
haymarket said:
Why would we not want to find out exactly how this was done and all facets of how it was done and if Americans helped to make it possible?
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I'm all for finding out, that is the first step towards building effective blocks. My problem is the political element with regards to President Trump.
 
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