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Conservatives should expose the left's offensive and misguided views on terrorism.

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We are seeing increased terrorist attacks all around the world. Now that we've had a few more major murderous attacks in just days, youd think that 'progressives' would finally grasp what's happening in a rational(and constructive) way. But obviously most leftist leaders are still just as confused and misguided as ever!

We listen to the Paris leaders make comments like, "well, we just have to learn to accept some terrorism". You hear them voice their typically misguided moral equivalency by saying, "well, Muslims are dying in their countries too", or "life is tough for Muslims as well". Other leftist leaders say, "we will have to accept some terrorism in big cities".

Of course, you can always expect others to make idiotic comments like, "I am more worried about white Christian radicals than radical Muslims". How many people have been murdered in the name of 'radical Christianity' since 9/11?

After attacks, it seems their immediate response is to figure out a way to pander to moderate Muslims(for political reasons/votes), by trying to completely remove Islam from the Islamists who kill people, because they take the Koran literally, and they feel they should follow Mohammed's teachings of conquest and forcible religious conversion, and Sharia law. That's part of Islam, even though most Muslims don't follow it to the letter.

But when I hear progressives justify the deaths of innocent women and children at the hands of radicals, with words like, "well, now we know what it's like for them in Palestine", it infuriates me! That 8 year old kid was NOT responsible for unrest in Palestine!

I hear spoiled, elitist fools like Jane Fonda say things like, "it's the rise of our patriarchal society, thanks to feminists like myself, which is behind their hatred of us". She just had to publicly shower herself with praise! But that's ironic, because usually they whine that our women are nearly as oppressed as theirs! That reminds me of the last foolish statement. The refusal of left wing feminists to stand up to overt oppression of women in many Muslim countries, because, "with all the oppression being suffered by women in America, we have no right to criticize them". Are you kidding me!!?!! Women are property over there, to be used and abused at will, and you want to ignore their suffering because of some idiotic moral equivalency!

Anyway, these widespread views of both leftists and Democratic politicians needs to be EXPOSED to the American people, who do NOT want to just back and watch their friends die, and then brush it off with some stupid justification!

We need to support moderate Muslims, but we must stand against extremism and NEVER accept it!
 
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Re: Conservatives should expose the left's offensive and misguided views on terrorism

We are seeing increased terrorist attacks all around the world. Now that we've had a few more major murderous attacks in just days, youd think that 'progressives' would finally grasp what's happening in a rational(and constructive) way. But obviously most leftist leaders are still just as confused and misguided as ever!

We listen to the Paris leaders make comments like, "well, we just have to learn to accept some terrorism". You hear them voice their typically misguided moral equivalency by saying, "well, Muslims are dying in their countries too", or "life is tough for Muslims as well". Other leftist leaders say, "we will have to accept some terrorism in big cities".

Of course, you can always expect others to make idiotic comments like, "I am more worried about white Christian radicals than radical Muslims". How many people have been murdered in the name of 'radical Christianity' since 9/11?

After attacks, it seems their immediate response is to figure out a way to pander to moderate Muslims(for political reasons/votes), by trying to completely remove Islam from the Islamists who kill people, because they take the Koran literally, and they feel they should follow Mohammed's teachings of conquest and forcible religious conversion, and Sharia law. That's part of Islam, even though most Muslims don't follow it to the letter.

But when I hear progressives justify the deaths of innocent women and children at the hands of radicals, with words like, "well, now we know what it's like for them in Palestine", it infuriates me! That 8 year old kid was NOT responsible for unrest in Palestine!

I hear spoiled, elitist fools like Jane Fonda say things like, "it's the rise of our patriarchal society, thanks to feminists like myself, which is behind their hatred of us". She just had to publicly shower herself with praise! But that's ironic, because usually they whine that our women are nearly as oppressed as theirs! That reminds me of the last foolish statement. The refusal of left wing feminists to stand up to overt oppression of women in many Muslim countries, because, "with all the oppression being suffered by women in America, we have no right to criticize them". Are you kidding me!!?!! Women are property over there, to be used and abused at will, and you want to ignore their suffering because of some idiotic moral equivalency!

Anyway, these widespread views of both leftists and Democratic politicians needs to be EXPOSED to the American people, who do NOT want to just back and watch their friends die, and then brush it off with some stupid justification!

We need to support moderate Muslims, but we must stand against extremism and NEVER accept it!

By doing what exactly?

Take away more freedoms of law abiding citizens in the name of 'national security'?

Additional restrictions on the web in the name of security?

Greater restricitions on Muslims entering the West?

PASS

The day you start doing that nonsense is the day the terrorists win as that is EXACTLY what they want us to do...WAY overreact.

I am not afriad of terrorism. Sure, I don't want to die from it.

But I would far rather increase that chance than start running around paranoid and restricting hundreds of millions of people's rights just to be a little safer.


It is IMPOSSIBLE to eliminate terrorism.

Almost any whacko can rent a truck and drive it into a crowd.


The only thing I want done is have the West get the hell out of the Middle East, stop meddling in affairs that our NONE of out business and let those countries solve their own problems.

I guarantee you that will do FAR more to curb Islamic extremist terrorism than any of the above ideas.
 
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By doing what exactly?

Take away more freedoms of law abiding citizens in the name of 'national security'?

Additional restrictions on the web in the name of security?

Greater restricitions on Muslims entering the West?

PASS

The day you start doing that nonsense is the day the terrorists win as that is EXACTLY what they want us to do...WAY overreact.

I am not afriad of terrorism. Sure, I don't want to die from it.

But I would far rather increase that chance than start running around paranoid and restricting hundreds of millions of people's rights just to be a little safer.


It is IMPOSSIBLE to eliminate terrorism.

Almost any whacko can rent a truck and drive it into a crowd.


The only thing I want done is have the West get the hell out of the Middle East, stop meddling in affairs that our NONE of out business and let those countries solve their own problems.

I guarantee you that will do FAR more to curb Islamic extremist terrorism than any of the above ideas.

You're largely right and this was by and large the intention of the politicians in power.

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I'd say none of these refugees should've been accepted as they shouldn't be "refugees" in the first place. IT wasn't because of your average citizen but because of the politician why the middle east is in the situation it is now. The issue is if you suggest, like you have, to cut out of the middle east entirely (and I would deport all new "refugees" from these areas... maybe you wouldn't) the media will be fast to show dying mothers holding children in their hands.

Peace was NEVER easy to achieve historically speaking. Whether it be in Europe or Asia, there are piles of bodies and gallons of blood that has been spilled in order to achieve a relatively peaceful nation. This needs to be allowed to happen in other countries as well. It may be long and bloody but attempting to force peace on these people does not work.
 
Re: Conservatives should expose the left's offensive and misguided views on terrorism

By doing what exactly?

Take away more freedoms of law abiding citizens in the name of 'national security'?

Additional restrictions on the web in the name of security?

Greater restricitions on Muslims entering the West?

PASS

The day you start doing that nonsense is the day the terrorists win as that is EXACTLY what they want us to do...WAY overreact.

I am not afriad of terrorism. Sure, I don't want to die from it.

But I would far rather increase that chance than start running around paranoid and restricting hundreds of millions of people's rights just to be a little safer.


It is IMPOSSIBLE to eliminate terrorism.

Almost any whacko can rent a truck and drive it into a crowd.


The only thing I want done is have the West get the hell out of the Middle East, stop meddling in affairs that our NONE of out business and let those countries solve their own problems.

I guarantee you that will do FAR more to curb Islamic extremist terrorism than any of the above ideas.

Here are some things the UK could do 'exactly':

Stop foreign funding for mosques. Stop foreign funding for Islamic schools. Stop public funding for Islamic schools. Stop allowing 'British' Muslims to bring cousins from Pakistan to marry. Stop allowing universities to defy the law by refusing to implement anti-radicalisation strategies. Expel all foreign imams. Monitor all sermons in mosques for promotion of violence.

These measure could be implemented now. Others more expert than I am could readily think of others.
 
Re: Conservatives should expose the left's offensive and misguided views on terrorism

By doing what exactly?

Take away more freedoms of law abiding citizens in the name of 'national security'?

Additional restrictions on the web in the name of security?

Greater restricitions on Muslims entering the West?

PASS

The day you start doing that nonsense is the day the terrorists win as that is EXACTLY what they want us to do...WAY overreact.

I am not afriad of terrorism. Sure, I don't want to die from it.

But I would far rather increase that chance than start running around paranoid and restricting hundreds of millions of people's rights just to be a little safer.


It is IMPOSSIBLE to eliminate terrorism.

Almost any whacko can rent a truck and drive it into a crowd.


The only thing I want done is have the West get the hell out of the Middle East, stop meddling in affairs that our NONE of out business and let those countries solve their own problems.

I guarantee you that will do FAR more to curb Islamic extremist terrorism than any of the above ideas.

Well, if the left's tactics on dealing with terror with political correctness and self blame have worked so well, then why, during and after Obama's presidency, have terrorist attacks increased? They are far more common now than just 8.5 years ago, and no honest person can deny it. For the most part, the Europeans have adopted the leftist ideal of, "let anyone from any war torn, terrorist supporting country come pouring in, without limit, with basically no useful vetting". Then they deal with them the way democrats in America deal with many unskilled, uneducated illegal immigrants and millions of poor African Americans.. They warehouse them in taxpayer funded ghettos(projects), and then they are undoubtedly radicalized more by the so called "progressives" who tell them they are all victims of whatever, and next thing you know, those areas become "no-go zones" where the police don't even want to enter! How exactly has that worked so far?

I agree that we shouldn't shed more blood over in the middle east, but to think that's the reason they are radicalizing is naive. We are out of Iraq, Obama did everything to aplogize for our actions, as have many other folks. We prop up the government's like the Palestinian authority with money. We helped the Mujahadeen defeat the Russians in Afghanistan. We freed millions of Shia and Kurds in Iraq. Unfortunately we also left without leaving any security force behind, which is Why ISIS exists as it does now. We helped overthrow 2 north African dictators under Obama, and they STILL attacked our consulate!

Why not STOP apologizing and start standing up for western freedoms(instead of aplogizing for them)? Why not stand AGAINST the oppression of women in Muslim countries? Our values are better than radical Sharia values! That's why Muslims come here!

If you think that we "just aren't being politically correct enough", and that if we continue bending over backwards to make them like us, that they will finally realize their mistakes, you are dead wrong! It's our culture that they hate! It's the fact that you and I aren't orthodox Sunni Muslims that they hate us! They were killing Jews and Christians long before the early 1990s, and before Israel became a country.
 
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If you think that we "just aren't being politically correct enough", and that if we continue bending over backwards to make them like us, that they will finally realize their mistakes, you are dead wrong! It's our culture that they hate! It's the fact that you and I aren't orthodox Sunni Muslims that they hate us! They were killing Jews and Christians long before the early 1990s, and before Israel became a country.

I only read this bit.

One - I DESPISE PC. Allowing freedom is NOT politically correct. PC is for denying freedom...DUH.

Two - only staggering ignoramuses on this subject - like you apparently - actually believe the nonsense of 'they attack us to destroy our culture'.

Yeah, they do not like it.

But only the small time, nutjobs use that nonsense as an excuse - along with anger at the West for atrocities they committed in the Middle East.

The large, organized attacks carried out by ISIS and the like have a purpose - to draw the West into the Middle East to try and destabilize their countries so they can move in and take them over, because they cannot take them over on their own AND/OR

Try opening your mind, doing some actual research and putting your fear/hate on hold for a few minutes (if you can - which I seriously doubt) and maybe you will understand the world around us and not just believe whatever pathetic neocons want you to believe.

I will not waste any more time on your nonsense...you sound like a closed-minded, lost cause on this.


We are done here.

Have a nice day.
 
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Re: Conservatives should expose the left's offensive and misguided views on terrorism

We are seeing increased terrorist attacks all around the world. Now that we've had a few more major murderous attacks in just days, youd think that 'progressives' would finally grasp what's happening in a rational(and constructive) way. But obviously most leftist leaders are still just as confused and misguided as ever!

We listen to the Paris leaders make comments like, "well, we just have to learn to accept some terrorism". You hear them voice their typically misguided moral equivalency by saying, "well, Muslims are dying in their countries too", or "life is tough for Muslims as well". Other leftist leaders say, "we will have to accept some terrorism in big cities".

Of course, you can always expect others to make idiotic comments like, "I am more worried about white Christian radicals than radical Muslims". How many people have been murdered in the name of 'radical Christianity' since 9/11?

After attacks, it seems their immediate response is to figure out a way to pander to moderate Muslims(for political reasons/votes), by trying to completely remove Islam from the Islamists who kill people, because they take the Koran literally, and they feel they should follow Mohammed's teachings of conquest and forcible religious conversion, and Sharia law. That's part of Islam, even though most Muslims don't follow it to the letter.

But when I hear progressives justify the deaths of innocent women and children at the hands of radicals, with words like, "well, now we know what it's like for them in Palestine", it infuriates me! That 8 year old kid was NOT responsible for unrest in Palestine!

I hear spoiled, elitist fools like Jane Fonda say things like, "it's the rise of our patriarchal society, thanks to feminists like myself, which is behind their hatred of us". She just had to publicly shower herself with praise! But that's ironic, because usually they whine that our women are nearly as oppressed as theirs! That reminds me of the last foolish statement. The refusal of left wing feminists to stand up to overt oppression of women in many Muslim countries, because, "with all the oppression being suffered by women in America, we have no right to criticize them". Are you kidding me!!?!! Women are property over there, to be used and abused at will, and you want to ignore their suffering because of some idiotic moral equivalency!

Anyway, these widespread views of both leftists and Democratic politicians needs to be EXPOSED to the American people, who do NOT want to just back and watch their friends die, and then brush it off with some stupid justification!

We need to support moderate Muslims, but we must stand against extremism and NEVER accept it!

You have a better chance of being struck by lighting than being killed by a terrorist. Terrorism is not new either it has been with us for generations. We will fight it like we always do and GB does some of the best police work in the world. France is not far behind. If we all work together we will have a better chance. Trump is doing ISIS's and Putin's work for them. They both want us to bicker with each other so as to divide and weaken us.
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Re: Conservatives should expose the left's offensive and misguided views on terrorism

Sadly, we only point out western countries every time this comes up.

I guess the US and EU are the only people who matter to some folks on here.
 
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