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2018: Democrats See HUGE Wave

joG said:
There you err. The msm was having a problem during the Obama administration too. It just hadn't gone into continuous ****storm mode of hysterical bias frothing. That happened as the campaigns began in earnest.
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No the difference is we didn't have a idiot like Trump tweeting nonsense on almost a daily basis.
 
Praxas said:
No the difference is we didn't have a idiot like Trump tweeting nonsense on almost a daily basis.
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You mean, that Obama acted more like we have become used to politicians acting. As far as I could make out, that was the mold that his voters wanted broken and that half the electorate was fine with. That a new kind of President acts differently to the old is no surprise and does not really require the excitement. The issues are another matter. But that is not, what most of the reporting is about. It is about a President that sends tweets instead of talking with the select few from the media.

I surely do not like this President. But writing viral venom and squirting false junk news is not the way to approach this unless one wants to harm the United States. This behavior by our media and liberals is exactly why Putin preferred Trump as President. He expected approximately this type of reaction. This is why I was so unhappy with Trump. Not because of his proposed policy mix, which was bad enough. And the msm/liberal idiots are acting just as predicted.
 
joG said:
You mean, that Obama acted more like we have become used to politicians acting. As far as I could make out, that was the mold that his voters wanted broken and that half the electorate was fine with. That a new kind of President acts differently to the old is no surprise and does not really require the excitement. The issues are another matter. But that is not, what most of the reporting is about. It is about a President that sends tweets instead of talking with the select few from the media.

I surely do not like this President. But writing viral venom and squirting false junk news is not the way to approach this unless one wants to harm the United States. This behavior by our media and liberals is exactly why Putin preferred Trump as President. He expected approximately this type of reaction. This is why I was so unhappy with Trump. Not because of his proposed policy mix, which was bad enough. And the msm/liberal idiots are acting just as predicted.
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Actually Trump's tweets are an embarrassment to this country. Yes, HIS voters wanted to break the mold however the majority of the country does not want an idiot tweeting.

and the MSM are just reacting to the idiotic tweets and comments of Trump. 95% of all Trump's problems with the media stem from Trump's OWN ACTIONS. Want the MSM to stop reporting on what idiotic thing Trump tweets? Have Trump stop tweeting like an idiot then.
 
Praxas said:
Actually Trump's tweets are an embarrassment to this country. Yes, HIS voters wanted to break the mold however the majority of the country does not want an idiot tweeting.

and the MSM are just reacting to the idiotic tweets and comments of Trump. 95% of all Trump's problems with the media stem from Trump's OWN ACTIONS. Want the MSM to stop reporting on what idiotic thing Trump tweets? Have Trump stop tweeting like an idiot then.
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The whole country is taking a breath because Trump is out of the country and hasn't tweeted anything stupid because his staff does that for him. He's not there to tell them what to tweet
 
Fritz said:
Politics is always like that (in contemporary US politics really).

The majority party makes corrupt decisions that the common people don't like, and the minority party (in this case the Dems) will win the next votes because of the low favorability of the majority party. Trump is no different in this process.

Politics is now a reality tv show, not a body that helps all people in its borders.
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Yes and it points out the utter incompetence of our government. It is never able to address the common good well enough to keep one party in power for any length of time. As long as we have gridlock, we'll get through it as we always have.
 
Fritz said:
Politics is always like that (in contemporary US politics really).

The majority party makes corrupt decisions that the common people don't like, and the minority party (in this case the Dems) will win the next votes because of the low favorability of the majority party. Trump is no different in this process.

Politics is now a reality tv show, not a body that helps all people in its borders.
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When things get to this stage, it surely is a sign that America is in decline. Trump is your reality tv president, put there by Americans who are obsessed with entertainment, like Rome was in its last days.
 
Mycroft said:
Didn't that guy say something about Hillary sweeping the country about 6 months ago? You know...on election night? Maybe I'm thinking of someone else.
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You took the words right out of my mouth. Meatloaf, way back when.

I actually had some hope for the Dems when they had the chance to rid themselves of their poster child Nancy. I thought, good, may be they got the message, but I guess dear old Nancy must have some good dirt on them. That, or they have lost their collective mind.
Many independent voters have an eye on what boils down to actually listening to the "regular people".
 
fmw said:
Yes and it points out the utter incompetence of our government. It is never able to address the common good well enough to keep one party in power for any length of time. As long as we have gridlock, we'll get through it as we always have.
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We can hope.......
 
Democrats Should Fear the 2018 Midterms
Eddie Zipperer, LifeZette

. . . Left-wing policies are not popular, and they never were. President Barack Obama was popular. Democrats thought that Obama was the Energizer Bunny, and the party was the battery that made him go and go and go, but they were wrong. Obama was the battery, and now — thanks to our glorious 22nd amendment — they’re stuck. Consider a brief, recent history of U.S. elections.

  • 2008 – Democrats did great as expected.
  • 2010 – Republican wave shocks media and Democrats.
  • 2012 – Democrats did great as expected.
  • 2014 – Republican wave shocks media and Democrats.
  • 2016 – Republican wave shocks media and Democrats.
See the trend?
Obama was the only thing about the Democratic Party that was working. The Democrats without Obama are like a furry, pink, drum-beating bunny without a battery. They’re like pizza without cheese. They’re like Katy Perry without auto-tune. And the party elites are too arrogant to fix their problems, which are getting worse each day we inch closer to Nov. 2018.
 
Mycroft said:
Didn't that guy say something about Hillary sweeping the country about 6 months ago? You know...on election night? Maybe I'm thinking of someone else.
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Kobie said:
Maybe you should look it up and provide a link.
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https://www.lifezette.com/polizette/experts-predicted-clinton-victory-project-gop-disaster-2018/

Gonzales, however, had predicted that Clinton would walk away with a huge Electoral College victory of 323 compared to a supposed 215 votes for Trump. Trump won with 304 votes compared to 227 for Clinton.
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ModerateGOP said:
2018 is beginning to look like a very good year for Democrats - CNNPolitics.com
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Lol ! Again, Dems hold and have to defend the majority of seats up for election in 2018
25 I think, 10 of those seats are Senate seats in States Trump won.

The GOP has to defend 9 seats, 8 of which are in Red States Trump won.

Not only is the math not there for
a Democrat route of the GOP, they've lost every special election since the Presidential election. Havent won one yet

Hate to dash your hopes, but if the Democrats dont shift out of bat**** crazy mode real soon, 2018 will be just as painful as the Presidential election
 
ModerateGOP said:
2018 is beginning to look like a very good year for Democrats - CNNPolitics.com
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It seems CNN is using Rothenberg's numbers. But lumping in tossup's, leans and likely all together. Tossup means just that, leans means the race is competitive, but one party has an advantage and likely means the race isn't competitive at this time, but has a chance of becoming so. In other words, what CNN used just subtracted the safe seats and left every other seat that wasn't deemed safe. That doesn't give one a clear picture.

I would classify tossups and leans as at risk seats. Not likely until that race does become competitive. That means the true number according to yours truly is 25 at risk seats for the Republicans and 11 for the Democrats. But these numbers will change and change again and change some more. If the election was held today, I would say you're looking a around a 10 seat pick up for the Democrats.

Now to put this into perspective, in 2016 the Republicans had 30 at risk seats to just 8 for the Democrats which resulted in a net gain pick up of 6 seats for the Democrats. With those numbers one would have expected the Democrats to pick up 10-15 seats. But each district has a PVI or partisan voter index which gives you an idea of how many Republicans and Democrats are in each district.

My advice is to watch how the economy is doing along with Trump's approval rating. Then how many open seats, it is much easier to win an open seat than face an incumbent. The one big thing most folks and pundits forget is the average voter loves their congressman, it is the other 434 that has to go. They're the problem, not my congressman, he is a good guy.

The above holds true unless the electorate becomes mad as all get out at one party or the other. This happened in 1994, 54 seat gain for the GOP, 2006, a 33 seat gain for the Democrats and in 2010 with a 63 seat gain for the Republicans. The Democrats raised taxes to include raising the amount of social security that was to be taxed from 50% to 85%, big mistake. Bush's Iraq and Afghanistan war wore thin with the public and the recession was beginning. It was the ACA being passed against the majority of Americans wishes which lead to 2010. Bottom line, don't get the electorate peeved at you.
 
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Chomsky said:
Meh.

If they keep running the same tired old candidates using the same tired old platform, I wouldn't count on it.

The first thing I'd do if I ran the DNC?

"Hillary, you're retired! Bubba', now you take good care of her!"
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Their platform is not even old or tired, their current run seems to be an invention of right before obama was elected. They appeal to the far left, which is actually a minority in the country, the left in general was last I checked only 19% of the voting population, not sure what it is today, but not enough to win anything.

Then you have identity politics, abortion birth control transgenders etc mean nearly nothing to most of the country, they rile up the far left base, but for mainstream america they do not care what either side has to say on the issue, they want to know that party is going to represent them, the people rather than devote their time to a specific class while ignoring the others.

Last issue they have lost on, the elimination of the blue dogs, the moderate to right of center democrats who helped democrats retain control in flyover country, and helped the democrats until obama retain the big tent party name, meaning they represented a wide array of people. Why after obama the blue dogs dissapeared is beyond me, but their power in each branch has dropped greatly because of it.
 
Mycroft said:
Didn't that guy say something about Hillary sweeping the country about 6 months ago? You know...on election night? Maybe I'm thinking of someone else.
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That's exactly what they said! CNN is now MSNBC. Their goals are exactly the same as those of any serious left wing activist group, to voice propaganda that helps their political party win. That's why they are always against republicans during any election period, and it's why they are soooo virulently anti-Trump. They are a bit more extreme in their behavior, for 2 reasons. They thought the left wing revolution had permanently swept into American politics, and they experienced GREAT disappointment when Trump became a stumbling block in their revolution. Secondly, they really expected Hillary to win. Now they want Republicans OUT of office ASAP, and the MSM will do and say anything to hasten that goal.
 
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