Independent Prosecutor?

NIMBY said:

How far would you like to go back in time to deflect from trump's 114 days? Last week would have been enough for GOPs if Clinton were president. But we also know Clinton would have been gone long before last week, don't we ?

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Where have I EVER stated we shouldnt FULLY investigate Trump and Russia. Name even ONE time.

Captain Adverse said:

There are no "facts." There is no "smoking gun." There is no evidence that Trump knew about or was involved in any conspiracy to collude with Russia on his election.

There is only a rabid desire to "burn the witch" by those who have been shocked to their very core that their chosen one failed to win the election.

The "evidence" is all innuendo and emotion. Dress him up, make unfounded allegations, claim guilt by association, and false harms. All designed to burn the witch!



That is all a special prosecutor is in this case, a witch hunter.

Doesn't anyone remember the Clinton lying investigation with a "special prosecutor" who reminded me of McCarthy era tactics, and all we found out was he DID lie about having sex with that woman, if you count "oral" as "sex." :roll:

IMO the only reason the Democrats and their SJW/Progressive-Left allies are pushing this investigation and demanding a Special Prosecutor is to tie up the Administration in scandal just as the Republicans did with Bill Clinton...along with a hope it will end up somehow driving Trump from office.

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It's hard to know if what you just stated is the truth or not. As I stated, just like the Democrats defended Bill Clinton tooth and nail, so too are the Republicans for Trump. Just like the GOP went after Bill Clinton, so too are the Democrats going after Trump. Most Americans were against the impeachment of Bill Clinton even if he received a BJ in the Oval Office. In fact during the trial, his approval numbers rose from 59% at the beginning to 64 at the end.

There the similarities end. At the time of the start of the investigation, Bill Clinton was popular among most Americans. Most Americans, but not Republicans. Trump isn't. Most Americans view him unfavorably, have a negative view of him. Something I highly doubt he will be able to shed. But whether a president is popular or not, shouldn't have a thing to do with an investigation or appointment of a special prosecutor. Like I said, I don't know what the facts are. I would imagine most Americans don't either.

There's no one out there to help distinguish what is true and what isn't. Trump, no, over 60% of all Americans do not think Trump is honest and trustworthy. Schumer, Pelosi of the Democrats, it is the same there, neither is considered honest and trustworthy. The Media, only 36% of all Americans trust the media to report the news in an accurate or fairly accurate way. Trust in government, no, only 19% trust their own government most of the time. I could go on, we have reached the age where no one trusts anyone or believes anyone. That is except the one's they want to believe.

Would a special prosecutor help that? I don't think so as most Republicans and Democrats have already made up their minds. But a special prosecutor may convince some independents, the non-affiliated one way or the other.

JamesBY said:

Mitch is only concerned about power, whether the President was Obama or Satan or Trump . . . oh, I already said "Satan."

If Clinton had done any of the Trumpetputian nonsense, impeachment would be on the table.

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McConnell is secretly working with his 13 all-white male GOP gang to write a health care bill the same as that of the house.

trump's lies, obstructions, threats and tapes are a great distraction for McConnell to sneak through an HC disaster .

VanceMack said:

Where have I EVER stated we shouldnt FULLY investigate Trump and Russia. Name even ONE time.

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Every time I've seen you say it, you've thrown in the kitchen sink of deflections, which would be fine with me ahead of the 2018s .

NIMBY said:

Every time I've seen you say it, you've thrown in the kitchen sink of deflections, which would be fine with me ahead of the 2018s .

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:lamo You are lying. Every time I have said it I have been quite clear...I want a COMPLETE investigation, top down and sideways, and I dont give a **** who fries...left or right. The reason you get your panties twisted is precisely because I call for thew COMPLETE investigation, and frankly...I think you know damn good and well that NOTHING is going to come from the continued Trump investigations but you also know damn good and well your side has a whole lot of e'splainin to do. It IS very telling. You only want TRRRRRUUUUUUUUUUUMPPPPP!!!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRGHHH!!!!!! investigated...because you people are still roiling in your hatred. Why dont you want a FULL investigation? Why is it you only want more of THIS choice action?

Vance, attack the argument not the poster.

Your arguments, on all of the facts and evidence, are obviously based on your confirmation bias that Trump is a good president and the baddies are out to get him. More than 60% of Americans disagree with you. Moreover, the FISA court, the intel agencies, the FBI, and the Senate Intelligence committee ALL disagree with your type of assessments. Your arguments have no cred, none.

JamesBY said:

A full investigation will require whatever is needed, of course. The "unmasking" was not illegal, something you know but ignore.

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Ironic because firing Comey is also not illegal. But that's something you've also chosen to ignore.

reinoe said:

Ironic because firing Comey is also not illegal. But that's something you've also chosen to ignore.

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Where did I ignore it? Reinoe, you make the silliest statements. Comey should have been fired on day one.

NIMBY said:

Why is McConnell hiding right now? Mitch would shut the Senate down if roles were reversed .

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What is it with this sudden liberal fascination with accusing everyone of "hiding". That must be the latest DNC talking point that's been ordered to get disseminated. You libs disgracefully accused Spicer of "hiding in the bushes" while he was meeting his military obligations and now you're accusing McConnell of "hiding". Shameful. I'd say it was embarrassing and disgraceful but that's an understatement. The behavior of the libs is traitorous to this country.

VanceMack said:

There were over 1900 US citizens unmasked...using FISA court procedures that had nothing to do with terrorism or any other foreign intel value. Those 1900 US citizens were denied due process by the Obama administration...essentially, they were spied on without warrant or cause. I am not at all surprised you want to ignore that. Further...we know that Clinton campaign operatives knew of that data. Why? We also know that data was distributed to people that had no need to know and at least one of those individuals leaked classified data. Thats a felony. This requires a FULL investigation. YOU however only want to focus on the part where democrat after democrat after democrat has reluctantly been forced to admit time and time again....

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It's funny to see a conservative use Sen. Feinstein to defend their argument. It almost seems unnatural. lol

JamesBY said:

Vance, attack the argument not the poster.

Your arguments, on all of the facts and evidence, are obviously based on your confirmation bias that Trump is a good president and the baddies are out to get him. More than 60% of Americans disagree with you. Moreover, the FISA court, the intel agencies, the FBI, and the Senate Intelligence committee ALL disagree with your type of assessments. Your arguments have no cred, none.

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Dood...make a ****ing argument to attack. The extent of your contribution has been NU UHHHHH!!!! You were given NUMEROUS opportunities to explain why you dont want a FULL investigation...and....nothing.

VanceMack said:

You are lying.

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It's becoming quite nauseous watching you trumpistanis calling people what you and trump are.

Every time I have said it I have been quite clear...I want a COMPLETE investigation, top down and sideways, and I dont give a **** who fries...left or right.

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It is clear from all your posting I've seen that you are a trumpistani deflector. I'm enjoying this much more than I did with Nixon when I was in college.

The reason you get your panties twisted

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Oh my--panties twisted--how grown down of you.

is precisely because I call for the COMPLETE investigation, and frankly...I think you know damn good and well that NOTHING is going to come from the continued Trump investigations

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Bring it on.

but you also know damn good and well your side has a whole lot of e'splainin to do. It IS very telling. You only want TRRRRRUUUUUUUUUUUMPPPPP!!!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRGHHH!!!!!! investigated

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Why are you so afraid of trump being investigated with this kind of posting, Vance? Pease calm down for your own health.

because you people are still roiling in your hatred.

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The clear hatred is coming from the trumpistani deniers and deflectors. Sad!

Why dont you want a FULL investigation? Why is it you only want more of THIS choice action?

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These two lies on your part cannot be proven. You're clearly becoming more like trump each day .

NIMBY said:

It's becoming quite nauseous watching you trumpistanis calling people what you and trump are.



It is clear from all your posting I've seen that you are a trumpistani deflector. I'm enjoying this much more than I did with Nixon when I was in college.



Oh my--panties twisted--how grown down of you.



Bring it on.



Why are you so afraid of trump being investigated with this kind of posting, Vance? Pease calm down for your own health.


The clear hatred is coming from the trumpistani deniers and deflectors. Sad!



These two lies on your part cannot be proven. You're clearly becoming more like trump each day .

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So ya got no clothes....

OK...back to where you belong.

VanceMack said:

Dood...make a ****ing argument to attack. The extent of your contribution has been NU UHHHHH!!!! You were given NUMEROUS opportunities to explain why you dont want a FULL investigation...and....nothing.

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No matter what trump does, VanceMack, you'll only accept investigations if Democrats are investigated going back to when ?

VanceMack said:

Dood...make a ****ing argument to attack. The extent of your contribution has been NU UHHHHH!!!! You were given NUMEROUS opportunities to explain why you dont want a FULL investigation...and....nothing.

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There are four major people involved in the Russia investigation who need to be investigated.

Paul manafort

Roger stone

Michael Flynn

And carter page

Do you object to investigating any of these men?

VanceMack said:

Dood...make a ****ing argument to attack. The extent of your contribution has been NU UHHHHH!!!! You were given NUMEROUS opportunities to explain why you dont want a FULL investigation...and....nothing.

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Thank you for admitting your assertions have been blown out of the water. The investigations will go where they need to go, and you don't seem to want that. Wonder why? You are merely mouthing the Alt Right talking points of "look everywhere except at Trump." Lot of GOP don't agree with you.

The Trumpistanis are obviously very frightened of committees run by honest men and women.

reinoe said:

What is it with this sudden liberal fascination with accusing everyone of "hiding". That must be the latest DNC talking point that's been ordered to get disseminated. You libs disgracefully accused Spicer of "hiding in the bushes" while he was meeting his military obligations and now you're accusing McConnell of "hiding". Shameful. I'd say it was embarrassing and disgraceful but that's an understatement. The behavior of the libs is traitorous to this country.

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I didn't know posters were allowed to call other posters traitors to this Nation, reinoe. There's not a single lying accusation in your post that applies to me.

And yes, the coward McConnell is hiding and I thought of that all by myself. And yes, the childish chickenhawk should be nowhere near the nuclear codes .

VanceMack said:

There were over 1900 US citizens unmasked...using FISA court procedures that had nothing to do with terrorism or any other foreign intel value. Those 1900 US citizens were denied due process by the Obama administration...essentially, they were spied on without warrant or cause. I am not at all surprised you want to ignore that. Further...we know that Clinton campaign operatives knew of that data. Why? We also know that data was distributed to people that had no need to know and at least one of those individuals leaked classified data. Thats a felony. This requires a FULL investigation. YOU however only want to focus on the part where democrat after democrat after democrat has reluctantly been forced to admit time and time again....

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Interesting philosophy. What do you think acquisition of a FISA court procedures are? What do you think 'due process' means?

Let me explain this to you. Due process requires a formal legal process. FISA court procedures qualify for consideration as a formal legal process. This easily debunked, infantile analysis throws your 1900 number into doubt. Please cite that data.

Also, cite this: "We also know that data was distributed to people that had no need to know and at least one of those individuals leaked classified data." As it's barely coherent, let alone specific or a felony.

VanceMack said:

:lamo You are lying. Every time I have said it I have been quite clear...I want a COMPLETE investigation, top down and sideways, and I dont give a **** who fries...left or right. The reason you get your panties twisted is precisely because I call for thew COMPLETE investigation, and frankly...I think you know damn good and well that NOTHING is going to come from the continued Trump investigations but you also know damn good and well your side has a whole lot of e'splainin to do. It IS very telling. You only want TRRRRRUUUUUUUUUUUMPPPPP!!!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRGHHH!!!!!! investigated...because you people are still roiling in your hatred. Why dont you want a FULL investigation? Why is it you only want more of THIS choice action?

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Did you read his post? It was dead on. You can't seem to broach this topic without deflecting like you do above to what looks like a meltdown.

JamesBY said:

The Trumpistanis are obviously very frightened of committees run by honest men and women.

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The truth does NOT reflect well on President Trump's supporters. Part of them knows it, and that's why they desperately grasp at straws when it comes time for them to decide whether to demonstrate courage or partisanship.

Unitedwestand13 said:

There are four major people involved in the Russia investigation who need to be investigated.

Paul manafort

Roger stone

Michael Flynn

And carter page

Do you object to investigating any of these men?

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I dont object to investigating ANY of them. Not sure how many times I have to say it. I want to see it ALL investigated.

Dont you?

Moot said:

It's funny to see a conservative use Sen. Feinstein to defend their argument. It almost seems unnatural. lol

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He forgot to go back to the unmaskings of dubya, with his hangup on Clinton/Obama/Rice .

VanceMack said:

I dont object to investigating ANY of them. Not sure how many times I have to say it. I want to see it ALL investigated. Dont you?

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How far do you want all to go back to ?