Kasich vs Biden in 2020?

Moderate Right said:

Hillary didn't know how to tell the truth.

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slick said:

If Trump decides to go back to the envious lifestyle he previously had it will definitely be Pence as the Republican
nominee. I'll watch Maher on HBO for laughs, one episode Kasich was a guest & he was so boring I had to
turn off the show. I never did that before. There must be 5 guys who would have a better chance than Kasich
for the nomination.

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Perotista said:

Biden I think is too old. But if he had run last year he would have had my vote. Almost any other Democrat besides Clinton against Trump would have gotten my vote. I do like the idea of Kasich, Rubio also. But as you stated, I think it is too early to speculate. If I were a democrat I would look for a fresh face, say from flyover country. Not from the northeast. Running ultra liberals from the northeast has worked out well for the Democrats. Clinton, NY, Kerry, Mass, Dukakis, Mass. all lost. Who won? Obama Illinois, Bill Clinton Arkansas, Jimmy Carter, Georgia, LBJ Texas.

JFK who won in 1960, from Mass was as much as a conservative back then as a liberal. The Northeast was also Republican liberal, Rockefeller Republican country also. Both parties much closer ideological wise without today's huge divide. Both parties had their conservative and liberal wings. Times change.

Will Trump finish his first term? I don't know. He has much to learn, but seems unwilling to do so. The key word is unwilling, not can't, but won't. One thing is for sure, if in 2020 it is another Hillary/Trump match up, I voting third party once more.

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SenorXm/Sirius said:

She's not as bad as the lair in chief in there now. No one is/was.

Trump has taken lying to a whole new level. And until his supporters hold him responsible and stop excusing and defending his lies, there's no reason for him to stop. In other words your, and others phony outrage towards Clinton's lying is, well, phony.

Worry about the guy lying to you RIGHT NOW!

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Moderate Right said:

Let's not forget that 3 million more voters supported Hillary's lies than those who support Trump's lies.

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slick said:

4 million more voters supported Mrs. Clinton's in California. They gravitate to liar's there.

Clinton 8,753,788
Trump 4,483,810

In the other 49 states they preferred Trump's lies by over 1 million.

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Moderate Right said:

In other words, the other statement I responded to means absolutely nothing.

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Jack Hays said:

Here's the way-too-early look at a possible 2020 scenario.

Kasich and Biden Yearn for 2020
A.B. Stoddard, RealClearPolitics

They wear their hearts on their sleeves, and occasionally stick their feet in their mouths. They are men of deep faith who have shouldered painful loss that informs their public and private journeys. And as seasoned veterans they’re now stumbling around in a new political world, hoping their priorities and principles can still convince, seemingly haunted that the presidency may have passed them by.

It would be hard to miss that both Ohio Gov. John Kasich and former Vice President Joe Biden are conspicuously stepping into the spotlight, as Kasich does book tour rounds and Biden -- who has a book contract and is supposed to be writing -- seems these days to prefer making public appearances rather than hunkering down at the computer.

Both men deny they’re running for the White House again, but not really. For now, they claim to want the same thing -- to be heard. As a Biden adviser told Politico: “He wants to have a voice. The more stuff he does like this, the more people hear his voice.” Kasich told Anderson Cooper at a CNN town hall last month: “My job is to be a voice that’s constructive.” And Kasich ally Matt Borges, whom Trump helped oust from his perch as Ohio GOP party chairman in January, said the governor “wants to continue to be a voice in the process.”

Much lies ahead on the road to the 2020 election in both parties. Republicans of all stripes wonder if Trump ran the first time as a PR stunt to boost business, will regret it and leave after one term. Some on both sides of the aisle wonder if the Russian mess will doom him. For Democrats hoping to challenge him, things look bleak. Stuck with Sens. Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren filling the void, the party is in desperate need of a next-generation leader who can win over the voters lost in 2016. . . .

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SenorXm/Sirius said:

Not she wouldn't. If anyone else pulled the lies, tweets, insults, classless name calling, they wouldn't. No one would.

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Trump's like a cult leader.

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Blackstone said:

Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are both guilty of everything above except, perhaps, the prolific use of Twitter. Both enjoyed strong approval among registered Democrats.


He learned a lot watching Obama's schtick for the past eight or nine years. For that matter, Hillary's core supporters - the abortion lobby/Feminazis - is no less cult-like in their worship of that worthless old windbag.

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JamesBY said:

Blackstone, based on his words, wants Trump to be just like Clinton and Obama. :doh

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Jack Hays said:

Here's the way-too-early look at a possible 2020 scenario.

Kasich and Biden Yearn for 2020
A.B. Stoddard, RealClearPolitics

They wear their hearts on their sleeves, and occasionally stick their feet in their mouths. They are men of deep faith who have shouldered painful loss that informs their public and private journeys. And as seasoned veterans they’re now stumbling around in a new political world, hoping their priorities and principles can still convince, seemingly haunted that the presidency may have passed them by.

It would be hard to miss that both Ohio Gov. John Kasich and former Vice President Joe Biden are conspicuously stepping into the spotlight, as Kasich does book tour rounds and Biden -- who has a book contract and is supposed to be writing -- seems these days to prefer making public appearances rather than hunkering down at the computer.

Both men deny they’re running for the White House again, but not really. For now, they claim to want the same thing -- to be heard. As a Biden adviser told Politico: “He wants to have a voice. The more stuff he does like this, the more people hear his voice.” Kasich told Anderson Cooper at a CNN town hall last month: “My job is to be a voice that’s constructive.” And Kasich ally Matt Borges, whom Trump helped oust from his perch as Ohio GOP party chairman in January, said the governor “wants to continue to be a voice in the process.”

Much lies ahead on the road to the 2020 election in both parties. Republicans of all stripes wonder if Trump ran the first time as a PR stunt to boost business, will regret it and leave after one term. Some on both sides of the aisle wonder if the Russian mess will doom him. For Democrats hoping to challenge him, things look bleak. Stuck with Sens. Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren filling the void, the party is in desperate need of a next-generation leader who can win over the voters lost in 2016. . . .

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The two-term Ohio governor noted that his "inclination is to say (he'll) never run for anything again." However, he is maintaining a political organization, planning on forming a team, and won't be waiting on the results of the midterm elections to make up his mind.

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slick said:

All it means is that California inhabitants are not typical Americans in a political sense, they are more than
one deviation from the norm.

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Blackstone said:

Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are both guilty of everything above except, perhaps, the prolific use of Twitter. Both enjoyed strong approval among registered Democrats.


He learned a lot watching Obama's schtick for the past eight or nine years. For that matter, Hillary's core supporters - the abortion lobby/Feminazis - is no less cult-like in their worship of that worthless old windbag.

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Moderate Right said:

Unfortunately, the Republican primary voters don't seem to care about that. I mean they voted for Trump, who didn't have a snowball's chance in hell of beating Hillary.

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chuckiechan said:

Kasich is nothing more than a Wall Street rent seeker, making millions at Goldman Sachs when he was between other rent-seeking jobs. He's more of the same swamp ecosystem, but a republican creature.

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Blackstone said:

Since either nuance escapes you or you're intentionally misapplying my observation in that post, let me assuage your "concerns" by stating plainly that demagoguery is a bad thing and that Trump aping Obama (or Clinton) in either style or substance is neither wise nor desirable.

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JamesBY said:

Disagree. Biden would be a formidable opponent. Kasich would be a great one as well.

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